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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #125 on: November 29, 2011, 08:15:33 AM »
edit* not getting dragged into serious arguments lol.
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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #126 on: November 29, 2011, 08:17:30 AM »
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lol.
I will just say brock looked improve standing up in the first part of the fight lol. But not where he needs to be. HOPEFULLY he listens to Bas and lets Pat hit him. He has the solution in pat.

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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #127 on: November 29, 2011, 08:20:20 AM »
edit* not getting dragged into serious arguments lol.

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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #128 on: November 29, 2011, 08:24:27 AM »
lol.
I will just say brock looked improve standing up in the first part of the fight lol. But not where he needs to be. HOPEFULLY he listens to Bas and lets Pat hit him. He has the solution in pat.

Whatever he does it will not be enough to stand up against the K1-champ. Brock will shoot and do it fast because he knows it could be over in less than a minute if he doesn't.

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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #129 on: November 29, 2011, 09:15:29 AM »
Lots of cage fighting analysts in this thread.
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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #130 on: November 29, 2011, 09:26:10 AM »
Overeems sick kickboxing is going to reduce Brock to a bloody pulp.  You haven't seen knees until you've seen an Uberknee.
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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #131 on: November 29, 2011, 09:47:46 AM »
Overeems sick kickboxing is going to reduce Brock to a bloody pulp.  You haven't seen knees until you've seen an Uberknee.
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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #132 on: November 29, 2011, 11:28:19 AM »
Wrestlers beat strikers 9 out of 10 times.

I dont see why this would be any different.

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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #133 on: November 29, 2011, 11:41:20 AM »
Wrestlers beat strikers 9 out of 10 times.

I dont see why this would be any different.

well, this is mma not a square off between a boxer and a wrestler so it's not as simple as that

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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #134 on: November 29, 2011, 12:06:58 PM »
well, this is mma not a square off between a boxer and a wrestler so it's not as simple as that

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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #135 on: November 29, 2011, 12:14:59 PM »
Wrestlers beat strikers 9 out of 10 times.

I dont see why this would be any different.
I think there has been a shift in that in top level mma last few years.

Seems the strikers than can defend a takedown are the winners many times.

oh and I think Overeem by KO first round.

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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #136 on: November 29, 2011, 12:22:32 PM »
I think there has been a shift in that in top level mma last few years.

Seems the strikers than can defend a takedown are the winners many times.

oh and I think Overeem by KO first round.

I dont think Overeem can defend Lesnars takedowns. He's pretty much just a kickboxer.

And I dont think theres been a shift in recent years of strikers beating wrestlers its just that fighters are more well rounded these days. Because it still holds true that a wrestler will almost always beat a striker. Just look at less talented guys like on the TUF and you'll see that the wrestlers still have an advantage over 1 dimensional strikers.

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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #137 on: November 29, 2011, 12:25:39 PM »
I dont think Overeem can defend Lesnars takedowns. He's pretty much just a kickboxer.

And I dont think theres been a shift in recent years of strikers beating wrestlers its just that fighters are more well rounded these days. Because it still holds true that a wrestler will almost always beat a striker. Just look at less talented guys like on the TUF and you'll see that the wrestlers still have an advantage over 1 dimensional strikers.

Overeem has good takedown defense. He's not 1 dimesional by any stretch, whereas Brock has been a 1 dimensional fighter. Ever watch Overeems old pride fights? He's not "just a kickboxer"

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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #138 on: November 29, 2011, 12:30:01 PM »

Overeem has good takedown defense. He's not 1 dimesional by any stretch, whereas Brock has been a 1 dimensional fighter. Ever watch Overeems old pride fights? He's not "just a kickboxer"

Show me one wrestler that Overeem fought in Pride to prove your point?

Throughout his career he's fought mostly standup fighters or BJJ practicioners. Never has he fought a dominant wrestler like Lesnar.

And in MMA if your going to be one dimensional its best that your a wrestler. Lesnar is going to beat Overeem. No question about it.

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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #139 on: November 29, 2011, 12:31:11 PM »
Show me one wrestler that Overeem fought in Pride to prove your point?

Throughout his career he's fought mostly standup fighters or BJJ practicioners. Never has he fought a dominant wrestler like Lesnar.

And in MMA if your going to be one dimensional its best that your a wrestler. Lesnar is going to beat Overeem. No question about it.
Lulz.

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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #140 on: November 29, 2011, 12:31:40 PM »
I dont think Overeem can defend Lesnars takedowns. He's pretty much just a kickboxer.

And I dont think theres been a shift in recent years of strikers beating wrestlers its just that fighters are more well rounded these days. Because it still holds true that a wrestler will almost always beat a striker. Just look at less talented guys like on the TUF and you'll see that the wrestlers still have an advantage over 1 dimensional strikers.

not necessarily, it comes down to the skill of the fighters as you can make the argument in favor of a striker or a wrestler either way when you only talk about certain aspects.

alistair himself has too much experience, speed and strength to lose against a fighter like lesnar that is fairly 1 dimensional and just relies on his size for the most part.  

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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #141 on: November 29, 2011, 12:32:54 PM »
If Brock can channel Miltons striking, then he will win.

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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #142 on: November 29, 2011, 12:35:29 PM »
Lulz.
Still waiting for you to show me a world class wrestler that Overeem has beat and defended his takedowns?

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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #143 on: November 29, 2011, 12:35:59 PM »
I dont think Overeem can defend Lesnars takedowns. He's pretty much just a kickboxer.
he could defend Verdums takedowns why wouldn't he be able to defend Lesnars..

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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #144 on: November 29, 2011, 12:36:21 PM »
If Brock can channel Miltons striking, then he will win.

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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #145 on: November 29, 2011, 12:37:01 PM »
Brock is going to get killed. Overeem is bigger faster and stronger. Lesnar cannot take pressure and then panics and runs. His only chance is to land a heavy punch on Overeem who is not known for his strong chin.

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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #146 on: November 29, 2011, 12:37:53 PM »
he could defend Verdums takedowns why wouldn't he be able to defend Lesnars..

LOL. Ok I'm done talking to you. You know nothing about MMA.

Comparing Werdums takedowns to Lesnars is like comparing Mike Tysons boxing to a 12 year old girls.

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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #147 on: November 29, 2011, 12:42:54 PM »
Show me one wrestler that Overeem fought in Pride to prove your point?

Throughout his career he's fought mostly standup fighters or BJJ practicioners. Never has he fought a dominant wrestler like Lesnar.

And in MMA if your going to be one dimensional its best that your a wrestler. Lesnar is going to beat Overeem. No question about it.

wow your making me think this might actually be a competitive fight  :D

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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #148 on: November 29, 2011, 12:43:06 PM »
LOL. Ok I'm done talking to you. You know nothing about MMA.

Comparing Werdums takedowns to Lesnars is like comparing Mike Tysons boxing to a 12 year old girls.
never said I was an expert mouthballz.

but you can't deny the fact that Verdum is considered one of the best bjj experts in the world.

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Re: I'll rip Lesnar apart piece by piece - Overeem
« Reply #149 on: November 29, 2011, 12:43:29 PM »
Still waiting for you to show me a world class wrestler that Overeem has beat and defended his takedowns?
Epic Lulz. Werdum recently, for one. Yes he's bjj, but its clear overeem knows how to stuff takedowns. Not like lesnar has some sort of super-takedown overeem hasn't encounterd before.
Anyway, I'm done arguing. Clear your of the opinion that wrestling = teh win, so whatever.
Doesn't seem to matter to you either that Lesnar has struggled big time with anyone who hits hard, and has a tendancy to freak out and panic on every fight where he gets popped.
No reason to think this is gonna be different.