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Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
« on: December 02, 2011, 06:45:00 AM »
I wholeheartedly endorse this man to be the nominee of the repube party. Go Newt, go! You're in first place now...you've got Willard squirming!

Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
The Republican presidential front-runner says 'really poor children in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working and nobody around them who works' to earn money — 'unless it's illegal.'

By Paul West, Washington Bureau
December 1, 2011

Reporting from Johnston, Iowa

Doubling down on a plan that stirred controversy about his views on child labor, leading Republican presidential contender Newt Gingrich said Thursday that poor kids have no habit of earning money "unless it's illegal" and should be put to work in their schools.

At a party fundraising dinner in the Des Moines suburbs, the former House speaker launched into a defense of his proposal to teach the nation's poorest children the connection between "showing up" and earning money — by putting them to work in their schools in the country's poorest neighborhoods.

"I believe the kids could mop the floor and clean up the bathroom and get paid for it, and it would be OK," he said to applause.

Gingrich said, mockingly, that those on the left would oppose his idea because it might prompt the children to earn more money and eventually escape poverty, "and then who would rich liberals worry about?"

Earlier in the day, Gingrich offered more explosive rhetoric on the subject. During a meeting with Nationwide Insurance employees in Des Moines, he was asked to clarify his views on child labor laws, which he recently described as "truly stupid."

"Really poor children in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working and nobody around them who works," Gingrich replied. "So they literally have no habit of showing up on Monday. They have no habit of staying all day. They have no habit of 'I do this and you give me cash,' unless it's illegal."

He said he favored putting children to work in paid jobs at the schools they attend "as early as is reasonable and practical."


Gingrich initially drew criticism for the idea after an appearance at Harvard last month, when he promised "extraordinarily radical proposals" to change America's "culture of poverty," such as allowing children as young as 9 to replace adult janitors at schools.

As he campaigned in Iowa on Thursday, Gingrich also outlined what he described as a rethinking of his candidacy, "sobered," he said, by the realization that he was emerging as a favorite to win his party's nomination.

"The longer I have thought about the very real possibility that I might have to serve, the more I realize that we have to clean up the Congress" as well as the executive branch, Gingrich said at the party dinner.

He said he had come to the realization that he would need to run "an American campaign," not merely a Republican one. And in an apparent reference to the need to diversify the GOP beyond its overwhelmingly white base, he said his campaign would be "open to people of every background."

"You and I know that is going to make some of our friends very uncomfortable," Gingrich said. But "if we truly want to rebuild America, we have to be prepared to make some of our friends very uncomfortable." The remark drew only a smattering of applause from the Polk County Republican crowd of 450, described by one dinner speaker as a mix of social moderates and conservatives.

The former speaker delivered a tongue-in-cheek warning to those who, he said, might be thinking about volunteering for his campaign, stating: "I have a passionate dedication to the work ethic."

Speaking to reporters after his dinner speech, Gingrich said he found his swift rise in the polls "disorienting," adding: "This is such a rapid change that we are having to rethink our own internal operations right now and where we are."

He said that as recently as two weeks ago, he would have not given such a sweeping speech about the future.

"Given where we are, I think this is the right stage setting to start saying to people, 'This is what a Gingrich presidency would look like. This is how really different it would be,'" he said.
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Re: Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2011, 06:52:05 AM »
And what is exactly wrong with this? Instead of being brought up expecting a handout from cradle to grave, kids can learn that hard work is rewarded. I started working at 12 years old on my Uncles cotton farm, and I'm not even black  ;)

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Re: Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2011, 06:55:07 AM »
Maybe if your ghetto self would have worked from a younger age you would not be the lazy, shiftless, crack dealer slangin rock and bustin 40's at 10 am on the stoop. 

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Re: Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2011, 06:56:40 AM »

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Re: Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2011, 06:59:23 AM »
Fuck the half breed piece of shit Benny. Destroy this thread  :)

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Re: Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2011, 07:01:57 AM »
Okay, but how young are we talking about?
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Re: Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2011, 07:08:59 AM »
1) I agree with newt that kids need to be working

2) If Obama was the one saying this, repubs would be crying "leave my kids alone, I iwll teach them about the value of work...."

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Re: Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2011, 07:12:11 AM »
Okay, but how young are we talking about?

I think anyone would agree that a 5-10 year old or so probably shouldnt be working. They could though be instilled with work ethic. Taking out the trash, cleaning the erase board, sweeping the classroom, etc. That teaches responsibility and gives a sense of pride in your work. I would venture that starting at 5th grade, paying a 11-12 year old $10-$20 a week to just clean up the bathrooms, take out the trash, etc. would start kids on the right track. Give them 30 minutes at the end of the day, each day, to do these tasks. I'm sure cleaning companies do it now, so this could actually save schools money and instill good ethics in children. Benny---you fail as usual.

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Re: Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2011, 07:12:13 AM »
1) I agree with newt that kids need to be working

2) If Obama was the one saying this, repubs would be crying "leave my kids alone, I iwll teach them about the value of work...."



His brats will never work a day in their lives - just like him.   A family a grifters and tax vacuums. 

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Re: Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2011, 08:07:23 AM »
The more I hear from Newt, the more I like him.
Thanks Benny, i wasnt a big Newt fan before, but the more I read, the more I like him.

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Re: Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2011, 08:09:26 AM »


His brats will never work a day in their lives - just like him.   A family a grifters and tax vacuums. 

they'll work.  they'll graduate Yale or Harvard and be laywers.   they'll have the good life, but so do the kids of most rich ppl.

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Re: Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2011, 08:14:07 AM »
I wholeheartedly endorse this man to be the nominee of the repube party. Go Newt, go! You're in first place now...you've got Willard squirming!

Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
The Republican presidential front-runner says 'really poor children in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working and nobody around them who works' to earn money — 'unless it's illegal.'

By Paul West, Washington Bureau
December 1, 2011

Reporting from Johnston, Iowa

Doubling down on a plan that stirred controversy about his views on child labor, leading Republican presidential contender Newt Gingrich said Thursday that poor kids have no habit of earning money "unless it's illegal" and should be put to work in their schools.

At a party fundraising dinner in the Des Moines suburbs, the former House speaker launched into a defense of his proposal to teach the nation's poorest children the connection between "showing up" and earning money — by putting them to work in their schools in the country's poorest neighborhoods.

"I believe the kids could mop the floor and clean up the bathroom and get paid for it, and it would be OK," he said to applause.

Gingrich said, mockingly, that those on the left would oppose his idea because it might prompt the children to earn more money and eventually escape poverty, "and then who would rich liberals worry about?"

Earlier in the day, Gingrich offered more explosive rhetoric on the subject. During a meeting with Nationwide Insurance employees in Des Moines, he was asked to clarify his views on child labor laws, which he recently described as "truly stupid."

"Really poor children in really poor neighborhoods have no habits of working and nobody around them who works," Gingrich replied. "So they literally have no habit of showing up on Monday. They have no habit of staying all day. They have no habit of 'I do this and you give me cash,' unless it's illegal."

He said he favored putting children to work in paid jobs at the schools they attend "as early as is reasonable and practical."


Gingrich initially drew criticism for the idea after an appearance at Harvard last month, when he promised "extraordinarily radical proposals" to change America's "culture of poverty," such as allowing children as young as 9 to replace adult janitors at schools.

As he campaigned in Iowa on Thursday, Gingrich also outlined what he described as a rethinking of his candidacy, "sobered," he said, by the realization that he was emerging as a favorite to win his party's nomination.

"The longer I have thought about the very real possibility that I might have to serve, the more I realize that we have to clean up the Congress" as well as the executive branch, Gingrich said at the party dinner.

He said he had come to the realization that he would need to run "an American campaign," not merely a Republican one. And in an apparent reference to the need to diversify the GOP beyond its overwhelmingly white base, he said his campaign would be "open to people of every background."

"You and I know that is going to make some of our friends very uncomfortable," Gingrich said. But "if we truly want to rebuild America, we have to be prepared to make some of our friends very uncomfortable." The remark drew only a smattering of applause from the Polk County Republican crowd of 450, described by one dinner speaker as a mix of social moderates and conservatives.

The former speaker delivered a tongue-in-cheek warning to those who, he said, might be thinking about volunteering for his campaign, stating: "I have a passionate dedication to the work ethic."

Speaking to reporters after his dinner speech, Gingrich said he found his swift rise in the polls "disorienting," adding: "This is such a rapid change that we are having to rethink our own internal operations right now and where we are."

He said that as recently as two weeks ago, he would have not given such a sweeping speech about the future.

"Given where we are, I think this is the right stage setting to start saying to people, 'This is what a Gingrich presidency would look like. This is how really different it would be,'" he said.



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Re: Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2011, 08:17:48 AM »
The more I hear from Newt, the more I like him.
Thanks Benny, i wasnt a big Newt fan before, but the more I read, the more I like him.
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Re: Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2011, 08:22:07 AM »
1) I agree with newt that kids need to be working

2) If Obama was the one saying this, repubs would be crying "leave my kids alone, I iwll teach them about the value of work...."

very much true..Newt's the type of mean-spirited guy who would say child porn is acceptable because at least the kids are working :)

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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2011, 08:36:50 AM »
very much true..Newt's the type of mean-spirited guy who would say child porn is acceptable because at least the kids are working :)

hahahahahhaha 

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Re: Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2011, 08:38:00 AM »
I can see it now, my Nikes made in America, by child labor, but hey, it's "made in the US", and only costs 1.00 per shoe.

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« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2011, 08:41:05 AM »

Ice-T vs New-T

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Re: Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2011, 08:56:11 AM »
Giving children a challenging and rewarding educational experience while they are living within a two parent household would contribute far more than arming them with brooms and mops.  If children in our schools are to work, than it should be unpaid, and rotated on a weekly basis as a minor additional duty in school(similar to what the military does).  Rather, government ties funding to graduation rates, making more and more children less competitive as course work is constantly being dumbed down.

Lightening the criminal code which disproportionately affects the very base that Newt is talking about would go much further rather than sending a parent, brother, uncle, relative, friend, income-earner to prison for holding a sack of weed.  Anti-discriminatory law needs to be expanded to those with criminal backgrounds (minus severe violent crimes and crimes against children).

One thing that is being done right is the rapidly progressing of the fostering and adoption programs.  These have come a long way and have turned what are otherwise children who are hopeless into big contributors to society.

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Re: Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2011, 11:47:39 AM »
they'll work.  they'll graduate Yale or Harvard and be laywers.   they'll have the good life, but so do the kids of most rich ppl.

with really low grades no doubt

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Re: Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2011, 11:49:42 AM »
with really low grades no doubt

What were Obama's grades at Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard? 

BTW - his little one looks like Aunt Jemiaema in the making.   

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« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2011, 11:52:20 AM »
What were Obama's grades at Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard? 

BTW - his little one looks like Aunt Jemiaema in the making.   

ha...your racism always get the best of you when you are under pressure and looking alike a fool

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Re: Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2011, 11:52:35 AM »
Interesting....all four black guys, I assume you actually all are, are the only ones who have a problem with this and I know I have seen at least one of you talk about more whites being on welfare than blacks.  Put them all to to work... ghetto thugs and trailer park dwelling trash too.  Seeing it as a racial issue says more about how you view your race than anything else.

oh, and of course 240 has to turn it into a repub/obama type of thing.... ::)     ;D

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« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2011, 11:57:58 AM »
ha...your racism always get the best of you when you are under pressure and looking alike a fool

What is racist about asking about obamas grades? 

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Re: Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2011, 11:59:26 AM »
Interesting....all four black guys, I assume you actually all are, are the only ones who have a problem with this and I know I have seen at least one of you talk about more whites being on welfare than blacks.  Put them all to to work... ghetto thugs and trailer park dwelling trash too.  Seeing it as a racial issue says more about how you view your race than anything else.

oh, and of course 240 has to turn it into a repub/obama type of thing.... ::)     ;D


Agreed - get the leg irons out and put these people on farms to work in the sweltering heat.   Kick out the illegals and make the thugs till the fields, milk the cows, etc.   

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Re: Newt Gingrich expands on his support for child labor
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2011, 12:00:18 PM »
Interesting....all four black guys, I assume you actually all are, are the only ones who have a problem with this and I know I have seen at least one of you talk about more whites being on welfare than blacks.  Put them all to to work... ghetto thugs and trailer park dwelling trash too.  Seeing it as a racial issue says more about how you view your race than anything else.

oh, and of course 240 has to turn it into a repub/obama type of thing.... ::)     ;D

again..I can invert that statement....why do all the white guys on here support it????......I don't know much about who is black on here but the problem is Newt doesn't care about black children...he and other Repubs NEVER discuss black issues period and NEVER even visit black neighborhoods....Newt cares more about using kids to bust up the custodians unions