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Re: NYT: Obama/Holder running a Money Laundering operation for Drug Cartels
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2011, 06:58:51 PM »

“Undercover American narcotics agents have laundered or smuggled millions of dollars in drug proceeds as part of Washington’s expanding role in Mexico’s fight against drug cartels, according to current and former federal law enforcement officials,” the New York Times reports. Does that sound familiar?


It’s the exact same explanation the ATF used to justify Operation Fast and Furious, wherein federal agents working for the ATF “allowed” some 2000 firearms to walk from U.S. gun stores to the Sinaloan drug cartel. Just like the DEA’s money laundering ops, ATF’s so-called “botched sting” operation was designed to “catch the big fish.” Damningly, in ten months it did no such thing.

Which begs the question: what success did the DEA’s Cashwalker program achieve? How many convictions did the “sting” technique yield for that agency? And the answer is . . . none. I repeat. Not one reported case.

The DOJ pulled the plug on Fast and Furious after drug thugs murdered U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry with ATF-enabled firearms. As far as we know, the DEA’s “Cash for Goons” program is ongoing.

Former D.E.A. officials rejected comparisons between letting guns and money walk away. Money, they said, poses far less of a threat to public safety. And unlike guns, it can lead more directly to the top ranks of criminal organizations.

Yeah, sure. In theory. Maybe. In practice? The Times singularly, spectacularly fails to question the DEA on the number of prosecutions tied to Cashwalker. But they do provide a window into Uncle Sam’s participation in the financial side of the Mexican drug trade.

Today, in operations supervised by the Justice Department and orchestrated to get around sovereignty restrictions, the United States is running numerous undercover laundering investigations against Mexico’s most powerful cartels. One D.E.A. official said it was not unusual for American agents to pick up two or three loads of Mexican drug money each week. A second official said that as Mexican cartels extended their operations from Latin America to Africa, Europe and the Middle East, the reach of the operations had grown as well. When asked how much money had been laundered as a part of the operations, the official would only say, “A lot.”

“If you’re going to get into the business of laundering money,” the official added, “then you have to be able to launder money.” . . .

And the former officials said that federal law enforcement agencies had to seek Justice Department approval to launder amounts greater than $10 million in any single operation. But they said that the cap was treated more as a guideline than a rule, and that it had been waived on many occasions to attract the interest of high-value targets.

“They tell you they’re bringing you $250,000, and they bring you a million,” one former agent said of the traffickers. “What’s the agent supposed to do then, tell them no, he can’t do it? They’ll kill him.”

So there’s a paper trail to the DOJ. No doubt the embattled Attorney General received but didn’t read the emails on Cashwalker either. And no one in DOJ connected the dots between two “sting” operations that helped the Sinaloans do business in the United States. Totally unconnected. (/sarcasm)

There’s simply no other way to put this: the United States government is in business with at least one Mexican drug cartel, now fully revealed as an international criminal syndicate.

The ATF and State Department ran the guns (including military and law enforcement sales). The DEA laundered and smuggled the cash. It’s only a matter of time before we learn that ICE and the CPB gave the drugs safe passage. Or, perhaps, smuggled the drugs into the U.S. for the bad guys.

More than that, Cashwalker puts the possible motives for Gunwalker into fresh perspective. Or, more accurately, a new foul perspective.

From the start of the Gunwalker scandal, Mike Vanderboegh of the Sipsey Street Irregulars has maintained that Fast and Furious was an attempt by the Obama administration to create a crisis to allow the feds to introduce gun grabbing legislation. The recently revealed anti-gun email from former U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke gives credence to this theory.

I’ve suggested three alternative explanations. First, that the ATF enabled illegal firearms purchases to arm the Sinaloa drug cartel in an effort to counter a [complete] government takeover by Los Zetas. Second, that Uncle Sam let the guns go because various bureaucrats were on the take. And third, one, two and three.

In the light of this new angle, I’m going with door number three: gun-grabbing, CIA machinations and corruption. Hundreds of millions of dollars in cash flowing through American bureaucrats hands and no one takes a taste? Unlikely.

The Times doesn’t get it. They don’t grasp the full importance of the fact that Gunwalker recruited law-abiding American gun store owners into a criminal conspiracy, just as U.S. banks must be accomplices to the DEA’s epic money laundering. Even if the feds are fighting crime with these stingless stings—and there’s no reason to believe they are—the programs are perverting the rule of law in a country founded on that principle.

What’s more, U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry, ICE Agent Jaime Zapata and dozens if not hundreds of Mexicans paid for the inevitable blowback from Operation Fast and Furious with their lives. Cashwalker too; the money the DEA laundered for the cartels is drenched in blood.

The U.S. government is guilty of aiding, abetting and conducting a criminal enterprise.

No wonder President Obama’s minions are doing everything they can to keep a lid on Fast and Furious. If the full truth were known, the current administration would be doomed. At least that’s what I’d like to believe.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/12/robert-farago/atf-death-watch-124-dea-cashwalker-program-revealed




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Re: NYT: Obama/Holder running a Money Laundering operation for Drug Cartels
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2011, 07:44:51 PM »
Maybe it's me , but I find it ludicrous to think that to beat drug cartels, you need to arm them, help them launder money, grow stronger and more deadly, etc. 

are you hatching a CT that perhaps 'beating' drug cartels isn't the actual goal?

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Re: NYT: Obama/Holder running a Money Laundering operation for Drug Cartels
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2011, 04:19:33 AM »
It’s the exact same explanation the ATF used to justify Operation Fast and Furious, wherein federal agents working for the ATF “allowed” some 2000 firearms to walk from U.S. gun stores to the Sinaloan drug cartel. Just like the DEA’s money laundering ops, ATF’s so-called “botched sting” operation was designed to “catch the big fish.” Damningly, in ten months it did no such thing.

Which begs the question: what success did the DEA’s Cashwalker program achieve? How many convictions did the “sting” technique yield for that agency? And the answer is . . . none. I repeat. Not one reported case.

The DOJ pulled the plug on Fast and Furious after drug thugs murdered U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry with ATF-enabled firearms. As far as we know, the DEA’s “Cash for Goons” program is ongoing.







And Eric Holder is going to claim he knew nothing about this too?   







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Re: NYT: Obama/Holder running a Money Laundering operation for Drug Cartels
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2011, 10:17:00 AM »
LMFAO 124 views on this thread, and not one liberal communist obamabot can defend this but the 95% moron Vince. 


hey - lets laugh about cain and newt - yeah that is more important.    ::)  ::)

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Re: NYT: Obama/Holder running a Money Laundering operation for Drug Cartels
« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2011, 06:44:05 PM »
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Issa expands DEA probe to include money laundering
The Hill ^ | December 5, 2011 | Jordy Yager
Posted on December 5, 2011 7:21:38 PM EST by maggief

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) has requested a briefing with the Justice Department over a news report that U.S. law enforcement officials helped Mexican drug cartels launder millions of dollars into the country.

The chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee made the request in a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder, in which he questioned DOJ head’s ability to lead the agency.

Issa has been investigating the DOJ’s authorization of a botched gun-tracking operation for most of the year and has increasingly criticized Holder, who is set to appear before the House Judiciary Committee on Thursday.

“The existence of such a program again calls your leadership into question,” said Issa in his letter. “The managerial structure you have implemented lacks appropriate operational safeguards to prevent the implementation of such dangerous schemes. The consequences have been disastrous.”

According to an article published in the New York Times on Sunday, undercover agents with the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) helped transport millions of dollars in cash across the U.S.-Mexico border in an effort to study and dismantle the trafficking routes of drug cartels.

The article said the DEA allowed the drug cartels to continue functioning as they tracked their money moving methods

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Obama / holder have to go.   

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Re: NYT: Obama/Holder running a Money Laundering operation for Drug Cartels
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2011, 06:37:26 AM »
Awesome - the story at FR got this shit show rolling. 

 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/06/mexican-drug-war-us-accus_n_1130917.html



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Re: NYT: Obama/Holder running a Money Laundering operation for Drug Cartels
« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2011, 01:49:42 PM »
Issa Expands Probe Of ATF’s Fast And Furious To Examine DEA Money Laundering

Ryan J. Reilly- December 6, 2011, 5:35 AM 227764





Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) on Monday expanded his investigation into why ATF let guns “walk” across the Mexican border during Operation Fast and Furious, to include a probe of DEA laundering money to Mexican drug cartels.

The New York Times reported on Sunday that U.S. narcotics agents “have laundered or smuggled millions of dollars in drug proceeds as part of Washington’s expanding role in Mexico’s fight against drug cartels.”

Issa brought up the issue in the context of his Fast and Furious probe in a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder, who is appearing before the House Judiciary Committee on Thursday.

“The existence of such a program again calls your leadership into question,” Issa said in the letter. “The managerial structure you have implemented lacks appropriate operational safeguards to prevent the implementation of such dangerous schemes. The consequences have been disastrous. It is almost unfathomable to contemplate the degree to which the United States Government has made itself an accomplice to the Mexican drug trade, which has thus far left more than 40,000 people dead in Mexico since December 2006.”

But former DEA officials, according to the New York Times, “rejected comparisons between letting guns and money walk away. Money, they said, poses far less of a threat to public safety. And unlike guns, it can lead more directly to the top ranks of criminal organizations.”

Robert Mazur, a former DEA agent who authored a book on his years as an undercover agent in Colombia, told the NYT that drug kingpins were “super-insulated” and that the “only way to get to them is to follow their money.”

Issa has requested a briefing for his staff on the issue before 5 p.m. on Wednesday.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/12/issa_expands_probe_of_atfs_fast_and_furious_to_examine_dea_money_laundering.php?ref=fpb


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Re: NYT: Obama/Holder running a Money Laundering operation for Drug Cartels
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2011, 02:35:24 PM »
ATF Death Watch 125: Impeach Obama
Posted on December 6, 2011 by Chris Dumm

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/12/chris-dumm/atf-death-watch-125-impeach-obama




U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was murdered by a Mexican narco-terrorist ‘rip crew’ on American territory. According to recent reports, the gang that shot Terry included an FBI informant who had been apprehended–and then released–by federal authorities. The DEA also “ran” a criminal informant who either participated in or (at least) knew about the rip crew’s whereabout and plans. Terry’s murderer and his associates were armed with rifles deliberately supplied to Mexican drug gangs by the ATF as part of Operation Fast and Furious. Their activities were funded, at least in part, by a DEA money laundering/smuggling scheme that processed tens of millions of dollars for the Mexican drug cartels. The FBI released three of the suspected murders on their own recognizance after Terry’s murder.


There are many other elements to Terry’s killing, and many examples of similar extra-legal, drug cartel-enabling operations by the U.S. government. The U.S. Attorney Office released a grenade maker headed for Mexico. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement allowed ATF-enabled weapons to cross the border without interception. And those are just illegal actions that we know about.

But let’s focus on the conspiracy that killed Agent Terry. The DEA was laundering money for Agent Terry’s murderers, the FBI caught one of them and released him, and the ATF literally put the murder weapons in their hands. All in violation of American statutes and international treaties.

What laws, you ask? Over at pjmedia.com, they asked the man who helped write them. Here’s the 411 from James K Stinebower, a former Navy Intelligence Officer, Professional Staff Member to the Senate Intelligence Committee, and Naval Attache.

I refer to the apparent violation of at least one (probably two) major U.S. laws by the Holder Justice Department. A few years ago, the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701, the follow-on to the Trading with the Enemy Act) was expanded in order to criminalize any transactions between U.S. entities — to include departments and agencies of the U.S. government — and all foreign drug cartels.

I am familiar with these prohibitive statues because several years ago, while serving as the senior drug analyst for the Senate Intelligence Committee, I was tasked to initiate and became the principal drafter of legislation which became known as the Kingpin Act (21 U.S.C. §§ 1901-08). The Kingpin Act is an extension of the highly successful IEEPA [International Emergency Economic Powers Act] sanctioning program specifically targeting Colombian drug cartels. It expands sanctions authority against various drug cartel operations worldwide — including Mexico — which have been determined by the president to be threats to the national security, foreign policy, or economy of the United States.

A violation of any of the IEEPA sanctioning programs or the Kingpin Act carries stiff penalties, both criminal and civil, and potentially totaling decades in prison and tens of millions of dollars in fines. It is not necessary that an individual or governmental entity be shown to have “knowingly” violated any of these programs: it is illegal for any U.S. entity or individual to aid, abet, or materially assist — or in the case of Operation Fast and Furious, to facilitate others to aid, abet, or materially assist — designated drug traffickers. There are no exceptions within IEEPA programs for unlicensed U.S. law enforcement or intelligence agency operations.

If you or I or any other American citizen laundered money for narco-terrorists and then armed them with rifles they weren’t allowed to purchase, we’d go to prison for a long, long time. The people within the federal agencies who responsible for these extra-legal activities are subject to the same legal restrictions as any American citizen unless . . .

There is a provision in the Kingpin Act for “authorized” law enforcement and intelligence activities, however the only procedure by which an Operation Fast and Furious program could have been “authorized” under the Kingpin Act was by the U.S. attorney general requesting a waiver (known within the Treasury Department as a Specific License), prior to any such operation being undertaken . . .

As part of Congress’ ongoing investigation, as well as its constitutionally mandated oversight activities, it should be asked of Attorney General Holder if any such specific licenses were requested or granted by the Treasury Department. Additionally, Treasury Secretary Geithner should explain whether his Department has begun an investigation into these apparent violations of IEEPA and the Kingpin Act.

Memo to Attorney General Eric Holder: show us the waiver or go to prison. It’s that simple. Or at least it should be.

This isn’t a ‘Red’ or ‘Blue’ issue, or a matter of liberalism or conservatism; it is a question of justice and the rule of law. These agencies acted with complete disregard for the rule of law in pursuit (or so they claim) of Mexican narco-terrorists, none of whom have yet been apprehended.

If President Obama had foreknowledge of the FBI, ATF and DEA programs that lead up to the murder of Brian Terry, if the President knew about and/or authorized the coverup of his government’s participation in Terry’s murder and other “black bag jobs,” the President of the United States must be impeached and removed from office, and his subordinates prosecuted.

In the United States, no one is above the law, no matter what their rationale. Not even the President of the United States.


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Re: NYT: Obama/Holder running a Money Laundering operation for Drug Cartels
« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2011, 08:33:23 AM »
Gunwalker’s Cousin: ‘Moneywalker’?
Reports surface of the Drug Enforcement Administration laundering cartel drug money.

by Bob Owens




     Both the gunwalking and money-laundering operations would seem to require multi-agency coordination across several cabinet-level departments. Both appear to be in clear violation of federal criminal statutes, especially if the correct waivers were not obtained. And it appears neither scheme could have been approved without high level approval from within the Justice Department, probably coordinated at a high level with Treasury and Homeland Security.

House Oversight and Government Reform Committee chairman Darrell Issa has been at the forefront of investigating Operation Fast and Furious, and was quick to notice the parallels between that operation and the DEA’s money laundering. He is now expanding the probe to encompass the money-laundering operation as well:

In a Monday letter to Attorney General Eric Holder, Issa announced he’s investigating the allegations made against the DEA in the New York Times article.

“As you are fully aware, since March of this year, I have been investigating the reckless tactics — in particular gunwalking — used in ATF’s Operation Fast and Furious,” Issa wrote. “That operation, which you personally acknowledged was ‘fundamentally flawed,’ failed spectacularly to meet its objective of bring down Mexican drug cartels. Precisely because the ends do not justify the means, the law limits the conduct alleged in this story.”

“Apparently, this same goal of dismantling Mexican drug cartels motivated the Drug Enforcement Administration in aiding and abetting these same cartels in laundering millions of dollars in cash,” Issa continued. “In fact, The New York Times reports that agents needed to seek Department approval to launder amounts greater than $10 million in any single operation.”

Issa wrote that, according to the report, many agents said the $10 million requirement was frequently “waived” because it was treated more like a guideline. He said that means “hundreds of millions of dollars” could’ve been “laundered” into the hands of drug cartels by the Obama administration and Holder’s Justice Department.

Several thousand guns were provided to cartels in ten alleged gunwalking operations, and hundreds of millions of dollars were potentially laundered on their behalf. All of it was orchestrated in the Justice Department, apparently at the highest levels. This strongly suggests that not only does Eric Holder bear responsibility for these operations, but so does much of the DOJ’s long-term bureaucracy as well. The attorney general can certainly approve such operations, but the volume of guns walked and dollars laundered could not have taken place without the direct knowledge of long-term, high-level DOJ managers.

When the nation’s cops have become criminals, where can you turn?

http://pjmedia.com/blog/gunwalkers-cousin-moneywalker/2/


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Re: NYT: Obama/Holder running a Money Laundering operation for Drug Cartels
« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2011, 06:42:14 PM »
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Eric Holder's New Scandal: Money Laundering For Cartels
Investor's Business Daily ^ | December 7, 2011 | IBD staff
Posted on December 7, 2011 9:39:00 PM EST by raptor22

Scandal: The House committee probing government gun-running now sets it sights on possible money-laundering involving drug cartel funds run in the name of drug enforcement. Why should we believe DOJ this time?

It's an old adage that when investigating criminal activity you should follow the money. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, has announced an investigation into a money-laundering operation allegedly run by the Drug Enforcement Administration. We may need to follow the people following the money.

Just as Fast and Furious was allegedly intended to track and interdict gun-trafficking into Mexico, this operation, detailed in a New York Times article Sunday, is said to have as its purpose to follow how criminal organizations move their money, where they keep their assets and, most important, who their leaders are.

But the question once again arises: Have the feds interrupted or aided the flow?

After a Friday document dump showing how deliberately deceptive the Department of Justice and Attorney General Eric Holder were regarding Operation Fast and Furious, the government's gun-running operation that led to the death of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry, it's hard to believe this latest scheme was well-run.

In a Monday letter to Holder, Issa noted that as in Fast and Furious "this same goal of dismantling Mexican drug cartels motivated the Drug Enforcement Administration in aiding and abetting these same cartels in laundering millions of dollars in cash."

It may have produced equally tragic results.

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« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2011, 04:36:45 AM »
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Eric Holder: Largest Money-Launderer in the Drug Business
Townhall.com ^ | December 10, 2011 | John Ransom
Posted on December 10, 2011 7:22:48 AM EST by Kaslin

As if Congress didn’t have enough evidence that the Department of Justice has completely lost its mind, the New York Times is reporting that the Drug Enforcement Agency has helped launder “millions of dollars in drug proceeds” on behalf of Mexican drug cartels, a figure much higher than previously estimated.

The Department of Justice has been under investigation by Congress for facilitating gun smuggling during Operation Fast and Furious. Fast and Furious was a gun running scheme on the US-Mexican border that’s resulted in violence and death on both sides of the border including the deaths of federal agents in the line of duty. The operation used illegal weapons purchases with reluctant gun dealers who cooperated with the ATF on the so-called stings.

The problem however is that there has never been a sting, an arrest or results that would justify breaking the law- there were just illegal arms pouring over the border and escalating violence all facilitated by the Department of Justice in an effort, in part to make a case for stricter gun control laws.  

One source who was quoted anonymously in the money-laundering story in the Times was concerned about similar negative results saying that the “D.E.A. could wind up being the largest money launderer in the business, and that money results in violence and deaths.”

Consequently, Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif, chair of the oversight committee already investigating Fast and Furious has done some fast and furious of his own. Issa has opened a probe into the money-laundering program according to the Houston Chronicle.

He sent a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder informing him of the probe, drawing “a parallel between the reported money-laundering operation’s tactics and those in Fast and Furious,” according to the Chronicle.

“The existence of such a program again calls your leadership into question,” Issa wrote in a letter to Holder, says the Texas newspaper. “The managerial structure you have implemented lacks appropriate operational safeguards to prevent the implementation of such dangerous schemes. The consequences have been disastrous.”

The DEA denies the charge saying that they have been running money-laundering stings since 1984. “The Drug Enforcement Administration has been working collaboratively with the Mexican government to fight money laundering for years. As a result of this cooperation, DEA has seized illicit transnational criminal organization money all around the world.”

Obviously whoever wrote the press release for the DEA flunked the “irony” portion of their English exam.

The DEA has become the leading money-laundering crime fighter by becoming one of the leading money-launders?

Man, this has become a government that can justify anything it does by whatever tortured logic it chooses.

And that’s what you get when you’re governed by people who think that, as our own Guy Benson pointed out, lying is a complicated concept that revolves around a state of mind as does Mr. Attorney General Holder.

Issa is having none of it, though, since he’s been given the run around on Fast and Furious from the beginning.

He knows what he has to deal with at Justice.  

From FoxNews:

Issa indicated he's skeptical, particularly after the Justice Department on Friday gave Congress hundreds of pages of documents showing how Justice officials initially provided inaccurate information about Fast and Furious.

"The first answer you get from this Justice Department doesn't have a high credibility," Issa said.

And no answer ever will have credibility in the Department of Justice as long as Holder remains at the helm.

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Re: NYT: Obama/Holder running a Money Laundering operation for Drug Cartels
« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2011, 05:10:54 PM »
Attorney General Milo Minderbinder

By Clarice Feldman
It is a true pity that Joseph Heller, author of Catch 22, is no longer with us.  He deserved the chance to observe his character Milo Minderbinder, come to life. Minderbinder is Heller's prototype of deceitful, arrogant authority gone so awry he undercuts the very reason for his post and its operations.  I'm talking about our own Attorney General Eric Holder under whose watch arms were shipped to Mexican drug gangs, U.S. agents laundered the cartels' drug money, and hundreds of Mexicans and one -- perhaps two -- federal agents were murdered with the illegally sold guns.

Minderbinder's motive was money and he was blind to the dire consequences of his conduct to his fellow troops and country:

1st Lt. Milo Minderbinder: "What's good for M & M Enterprises will be good for the country."

Holder's motivation is still less apparent -- or at least it was until he appeared this past week after a late hour document dump days before. Those documents indicate, what others had long suspected: Our government -- in particular those agencies charged with enforcing drug and gun laws -- were violating those laws and destabilizing the area along the Mexican border, Mexico itself, and jeopardizing the lives of citizens and law enforcement agents in both countries -- seemingly in order to make its case that we need more gun control.  Our lives are secondary to this administration's political agenda, an agenda which , in any event, would appear to violate the Second Amendment.

Less than a week before Holder's testimony, the Department of Justice, in an unprecedented move, formally withdrew a letter it had submitted to Congress on February 4 respecting the operation known as Fast and Furious.  In that letter Assistant Attorney General Ronald Weich said:  "ATF makes every effort to interdict weapons that have been purchased illegally and prevent their transportation to Mexico."

Some ATF agents -- and perhaps other whistleblowers whose identities remain unknown to us at this time -- established to Congress that that statement was in direct conflict with the truth.  As he had to, Holder acknowledged that in future decades more people could be killed by the guns his subordinates deliberately let walk into the hands of drug cartels .

While a number of bloggers had early on voiced their suspicion that Fast and Furious had been undertaken to support the White House's anti-gun agenda, there was little direct proof of it.  CBS' Sheryl Attkisson  is  to my knowledge  the first to provide evidence in support of this logical supposition noting that  emails in the most recent document pile showed ATF officials were using the weapon transfers they demanded as justification for new gun sale regulations they called "Demand letter 3."

As IBD explains  in a post which cannot be improved upon, the chutzpah of the operation beggars belief:

We say deliberate because congressional testimony by ATF agents demonstrates how the tracking of Fast and Furious weapons stopped at the border and that requests to interdict the weapons transfers and arrest the gun traffickers were denied by higher-ups.

Demand Letter 3 was so named because it was the third ATF attempt to have Southwest gun shops report all long-gun (rifle or shotgun) sales to the ATF  --  even those to law-abiding American citizens with all the proper registration and other forms.

On July 14, 2010, five months before Terry's murder, ATF Field Ops Assistant Director Mark Chait emailed Bill Newell, the ATF's Phoenix special agent in charge of Fast and Furious: "Bill, can you see if these guns were all purchased from the same (licensed gun dealer) and at one time? We are looking at anecdotal cases to support a demand letter on long-gun sales. Thanks."

On Jan. 24, as the ATF was preparing to announce arrests in Fast and Furious, another email showed Newell saw it as an opportunity "to address multiple sales on long guns issue."

After the press conference, Chait emailed Newell that in "light of our request for Demand Letter 3, this case could be a strong supporting factor if we can determine how many multiple sales of long guns occurred during the course of the case."

Two earlier Demand Letters affected only a handful of dealers.

As it was funneling some 2,000 guns to Mexican criminals and drug lords, the Justice Department announced April 25 that it was requiring 8,500 gun stores in Arizona, California, Texas and New Mexico to report individual purchases of multiple rifles of greater than .22 caliber by law-abiding American citizens to the ATF because  --  get this  --  such guns are "frequently recovered at violent crime scenes near the Southwest border."

Perhaps the reference to Milo Minderbinder is even closer than I have suggested. For as bad as the  arms shipments to the cartels are, millions of dollars in laundered drug money is also involved.  As American Thinker and the New York Times reported: 

We now have several news outlets reporting that the DEA has decided to be in the business of laundering the money for Mexican drug cartels.  Apparently, it is a new program and involves significant sums of money. The  NY Times sums it up in one paragraph: 

One D.E.A. official said it was not unusual for American agents to pick up two or three loads of Mexican drug money each week. A second official said that as Mexican cartels extended their operations from Latin America to Africa, Europe and the Middle East, the reach of the operations had grown as well. When asked how much money had been laundered as a part of the operations, the official would only say, "A lot."

Call me cynical, but I cannot imagine millions of dollars being  laundered in a carelessly executed and supervised operation without a substantial amount of it ending up in the pockets of those who laundered it and those to whom they reported.

George Costanza (one of the Seinfeld comedy stable) famously said: It's not a lie if you believe it"

Contrast George's justification   with Holder's testimony (summarized by the N.Y. Post's Michael Walsh):

That the recently withdrawn letter from the Justice Department to Congress denying federal responsibility for the program was not a lie, "because it all has to do with your state of mind and whether or not you had the requisite intent to come up with something that would be considered perjury or a lie."

That the push for something called "Demand Letter No. 3" --  a new regulation to compel border-state gun dealers to report multiples sales of long guns to the ATF  --  had nothing to do with the fact that the feds had just allowed some 2,000 weapons to "walk" to Mexico and were using the blowback to justify more gun control.

That Holder doesn't read the memos in his own in-box, instead relying on staffers to bring pertinent information to his attention.

And that, miraculously, of the thousands of pages of e-mails about F&F turned over to Congress last Friday night, not one is from or to Holder  --  that he was just an innocent bystander as the US Attorney's office and ATF field headquarters in Phoenix, Ariz., cooked up the scheme.

Adding to reasons to discredit his testimony is this: The Attorney General's first defense to charges of his failures  on Fast and Furious was that  that  he didn't know about any of  it until a few weeks before the May hearings before the House Judiciary Committee.  On Thursday of last week, he said that he became aware of the operation sometime in the beginning of 2011 when Senator Grassley started inquiring about it. 

In any event he's refusing to provide documentation of any internal documents after February 4 of this year.

The utter lack of candor by the Attorney General and shunning of accountability for the monstrous actions under his watch by his people defies belief.

Here's a short exchange by  Congresswoman Sandy Adams of Florida, who was a law enforcement officer and whose late husband was one. It gives you the flavor of the hearing as well as anything else might:

 

 The Attorney General  remains in office and announced he has no intention of resigning. Congressman Jim Sensenbrenner has said impeachment is an option, Obama remains silent on the issue. Let's hope Congress has no intention of letting up and that the dominant media finally realizes the breathtaking scandal they (with rare exceptions)  have been sitting on in its efforts to protect the President they did so much to put in office. I doubt the public will find the Holder confection palatable.

 1st Lt. Milo Minderbinder: I want to serve this to the men. Taste it and let me know what you think.

[Yossarian takes a bite]

http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/../2011/12/attorney_general_milo_minderbinder.html



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Re: NYT: Obama/Holder running a Money Laundering operation for Drug Cartels
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yeah Eric Holder is to be believed!   

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Report: "Fast & Furious" Designed to Justify Gun Control (NRA)
opposingviews.com ^ | 11 December, 2011 | NRA
Posted on December 12, 2011 6:51:09 AM EST by marktwain

From the first moment that the American people became aware that senior BATFE officials ordered agents in the field to allow guns sold in the U.S. to be smuggled on an all-but-certain path to Mexico’s vicious drug cartels, many of us have wondered “why.”

What possible legitimate purpose could be fulfilled by allowing a large number of guns—over 2,000, by some estimates—to disappear across our southwestern border without the Mexican government’s knowledge?

There has been only one logical answer possible. Someone within the BATFE or higher in the Department of Justice wanted the smuggled guns to be recovered at crime scenes in Mexico, and traced to sources within the U.S., so that the Obama Administration could claim a need for one or another gun control measure being pushed by anti-gun groups. Someone who values gun control more than the lives of innocent people killed by cartel operatives armed with the BATFE’s “walked” guns. Someone who believes, as one BATFE official put it, that “to make an omelet, you have to break some eggs.”

Until now, there was no proof, however. But this week, CBS News reported that the BATFE “discussed using their covert operation Fast and Furious to argue for controversial new rules about gun sales.” In particular, agency officials wanted guns to fall into Mexican drug cartel hands and be traced back to gun dealers in the U.S. to make a case for requiring dealers to report individuals who buy more than one detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifle over .22 caliber in a five day period.

According to CBS, “emails show they discussed using the sales, including sales encouraged by ATF, to justify a new gun regulation called Demand Letter 3. That would require some U.S. gun shops to report the sale of multiple rifles or ‘long guns.’”

CBS singled out a July 14, 2010 email sent by BATFE Field Operations Assistant Director Mark Chait to Bill Newell, the agency’s Special Agent in Charge in Phoenix, from which Fast and Furious was based. In the email, Chaits asked Newell to “see if these guns were all purchased from the same [licensed gun dealer] and at one time. We are looking at anecdotal cases to support a demand letter on long gun multiple sales.”

Pro-Second Amendment U.S. Senator John Cornyn (Texas), the senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee’s Immigration, Refugees and Border Security subcommittee, quickly responded to CBS’s revelation, saying “If these reports are true, even by Washington standards this reaches a new level of arrogance and corruption.” With Attorney General Holder again appearing before Congress to testify about Fast and Furious this week, Sen. Cornyn added, “again, the Attorney General has some explaining to do.”

Also this week, CBS reported another means by which Mexico’s drug cartels have acquired a large enough number of U.S.-made firearms to partially explain the high tallies repeated time and again by Mexican president Felipe Calderon, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Attorney General Eric Holder, and other gun control supporters.

Apparently, hundreds of firearms sent to Mexico by U.S. firearms manufacturers, through Direct Commercial Sales approved by the State Department since 2006, cannot be accounted for by Mexican officials and are presumed to have made their way to the cartels. As CBS reporter Sharyl Attkisson relates it, “The Mexican military recently reported nearly nine thousand police weapons missing. Yet, the U.S. has approved the sale of more guns to Mexico than ever before.” The government of Mexico now buys more U.S.-made firearms than Iraq, whose security forces American and allied troops trained from the ground up, after the fall of Saddam Hussein.

Providing some insight into the scope of the problem, after one U.S.-made rifle sold to the Mexican military ended up in a cartel arms cache, the State Department asked Mexico to account for 1,030 more rifles, but received no reply. Between 2006 and 2009, 2,400 firearms were sold to Mexico through direct sales. But trying to avoid further embarrassment, State refuses to provide the numbers for 2010 and 2011. Attkisson says, “With Mexico in a virtual state of war with its cartels, nobody is tracking how many U.S. guns are ending up with the enemy.”