Could you beat up a welterweight boxer

[chess315]

  most people dont realise the graices owned the ufc during its first years royces opponents where hand picked to fail. There where many other fighters in the world at that time that where excluded.  Marco ruas was excluded and few russians and some people from pancraes the first ufcs where nothing more then hand fed low level fighters to the gracies. People say what about ken shamrock he was a bodybuilder with very crude submisson wrestling skills at that time. Dan severn is another hand picked loser. Dan severn or shamrock should have never even been there being although the did make a career out of the whole thing.

[dyslexic]

Too bad some guys are just going to have to learn the hard way.


Don't ever  under-estimate your opponent ~ it might be your last time.

[aesthetics]

nearly every city has mma and boxing gyms why dont you guys go to one and try it most of them charge $50 dollars a month some less.

because that just means you are paying $50 a month to be a sparring partner for a sweaty brazillian guy who will be sticking his sweaty smelly ass in your face for an hour while he puts you in various locks

[aesthetics]

you guys are so right. 

justin beiber could totally take out michael clark duncan if beiber had the speed, technique, and epxerience trainiing in martial arts that a top professional fighter has.


size, strength, and the ability to take a hit mean jack shit.


anyone who thinks size can outweigh technique is so stupid. thanks for enlightening me.

Do not talk shit about the Bieber.

[20inch calves]

NO. even at my strongest i know better. a boxer knows how to turn on his punches..with his technique he would knock my head off. besides you don;t have muscle on your chin...what is it like 8 lbs of pressure to knock someone out?

[Darren Avey]

NO. even at my strongest i know better. a boxer knows how to turn on his punches..with his technique he would knock my head off. besides you don;t have muscle on your chin...what is it like 8 lbs of pressure to knock someone out?

That just shows you how damn tough Rocky was, Drago hit with something like 2000lbs of pressure and hit Rocky non stop for nearly a full 15 rounds and Rocky just kept getting back up

[tu_holmes]

Hell yes I could... With one of these.



 

[Shockwave]

NO. even at my strongest i know better. a boxer knows how to turn on his punches..with his technique he would knock my head off. besides you don;t have muscle on your chin...what is it like 8 lbs of pressure to knock someone out?

Technically yes, but according to Tbombz, if you get knocked out there, you have a weak chin, cause he used to sit in class and punch himself in the sweet spot to scare his teachers 

[BILL ANVIL]

 most people dont realise the graices owned the ufc during its first years royces opponents where hand picked to fail. There where many other fighters in the world at that time that where excluded.  Marco ruas was excluded and few russians and some people from pancraes the first ufcs where nothing more then hand fed low level fighters to the gracies. People say what about ken shamrock he was a bodybuilder with very crude submisson wrestling skills at that time. Dan severn is another hand picked loser. Dan severn or shamrock should have never even been there being although the did make a career out of the whole thing.

The Gracies avoided Abbott at all costs

[BiGHer]

Yeah, I think a pro bodybuilder could beat down the lighter weight boxer in a street fight.  Of course, not in every case.  It would honestly come down to if the boxer could get a punch in or not.  If a pro boxer gets a clean bare knuckled shot in your face, 140 or not, you're probably going down.  I used to train for boxing under a world light weight champion, Luis Resto, who unfortunately was made famous for having cheated in a fight.  The guys hands were like bricks! 

If the bodybuilder could grab the guy or maybe even take the fight to the ground, the smaller boxer is going to have a tough time.

[Man of Steel]

Nope, a welterweight boxer would be pummel me.  Too fast, too skilled.  My only chance would be power and the boxer would be too fast.

[maxkane69]

no matter how tough they seem on stage they only weigh 140 lbs. could you hulking beefcakes dispose of them? do you think the average 230lb pro bber could beat them up in a street fight? is technique alone enough to make up for 90+ lbs in muscular bodyweight?

A 230lb bodybuilder would wake up in hospital wondering why he even thought about fighting a boxer!!!

[seCrawler]

 

If 5'4" manny can beat the snot out of Margarito at 6'0" 170 at the bell or whatever, then what would Mayweather or Sugar Ray Leonard or Thomas Hearns (especially this one) at 147 do to a 230 lb weight lifter/bodybuilder?











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[howardroark]

Grappling > Boxing

[NarcissisticDeity]

Grappling > Boxing

That's contingent on whose the boxer and whose the grappler

[howardroark]

Anyone with a decent takedown game would wreck the shit of even the best boxers, unless the boxer got lucky.

[_bruce_]

The Gracies avoided Abbott at all costs

The wild boar would have torn them a new one.

[seCrawler]

Anyone with a decent takedown game would wreck the shit of even the best boxers, unless the boxer got lucky.

Yep, three guys in a hotel lobby got wrecked by Mike Tyson.

[dr.chimps]

Ok. I've given this issue some more thought, and I want to change my answer from 'not a chance in hell,' to 'yes, and without breaking a sweat.'  

[BILL ANVIL]

The wild boar would have torn them a new one.

Indeed lol. Wild bore always beats the anaconda.

Would've stomped a mud hole in em

[deadz]

no matter how tough they seem on stage they only weigh 140 lbs. could you hulking beefcakes dispose of them? do you think the average 230lb pro bber could beat them up in a street fight? is technique alone enough to make up for 90+ lbs in muscular bodyweight?

maybe, maybe not

[jude2]

That's contingent on whose the boxer and whose the grappler

Excatley. Just like it depends on who is the boxer and who is the BB.

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[tbombz]

It all depends on the bodybuilder and what they're capable of. A guy like Jay cutler would get kfto by a 140-150 pound boxer I would put the bank on it. If it's a bodybuilder who wrestled in highschool has some actual streetfights under his belt and does some functional training he stands a chance. Tbomz your comparisons make no sense.

Exactly.
Trained/some training is one thing.
Trained vs no training is a no brainer, doesnt matter how much bigger someone is.

 

my original comment was that the big guy would have to mentally handicapped to lose


if you dont understand what i meant by that...    at the very least the guy would have to understand to let adrenaline take control, dodge when a strike is coming, and strike when theres an opening.. no hesitation and holding nothing back...   this is basic shit that even a fucking retard should know and be able to do in a fight.. no training necessary

[tu_holmes]

my original comment was that the big guy would have to mentally handicapped to lose


if you dont understand what i meant by that...    at the very least the guy would have to understand to let adrenaline take control, dodge when a strike is coming, and strike when theres an opening.. no hesitation and holding nothing back...   this is basic shit that even a fucking retard should know and be able to do in a fight.. no training necessary

Bob Sapp a trained MMA fighter got destroyed by a 170 pound guy.

What the hell are you going on about?