Macy’s Fires Employee for Protecting Women’s Dressing Rooms from Cross-dresser

[MCWAY]

Gayness and political correct buffoonery strikes again.


Macy’s Fires Employee for Protecting Women’s Dressing Rooms from Cross-dresser


A young woman was fired from the Macy's San Antonio Rivercenter department store in Texas for refusing to violate her religious beliefs by permitting a young man dressed as a woman from entering the women’s dressing room. Natalie Johnson claims she saw the young man walk out of the women’s fitting room and politely told him that he could not go back in because it was for women only. The cross-dressing young man claimed that he is a “female.” Johnson said that he was wearing make-up and girl’s clothing, but clearly he was a male. The cross-dresser was accompanied by five other individuals. The group argued with expletives that Macy’s is LGBT-friendly, to which Johnson replied that Macy’s is also non-discriminatory toward religion, and that it would go against her religious beliefs to lie that he was a woman or compromise with homosexuality. The group then demanded to speak with a manager.

When Johnson was confronted by her employer, she explained that she could not allow a male to change in a female’s fitting room. Johnson’s boss referred her to Macy’s LGBT policy which allows “transgender” people to change in any dressing room they want. However, Johnson pointed out that the same policy also protects against religious discrimination and, in this case, it protects her right to her beliefs that were being violated. The manager demanded that she comply with the LGBT policies or lose her job. Johnson refused to go against her sincerely held religious beliefs and was terminated from her job.

Macy’s policy which allows men to use the women’s dressing room is fraught with problems. This policy will cause significant problems and will alienate the majority of Macy’s customers. Macy’s has essentially opened women’s dressing rooms to every man. The LGBT agenda has become the theater of the absurd.

http://www.lc.org/index.cfm?PID=14102&AlertID=1337

[240 is Back]

Herman Cain has denied he was even at Macy's.   And if he was there, it was only to help clean the women's dressing rooms.




Size Nine, nine nine!

[MCWAY]

Herman Cain has denied he was even at Macy's.   And if he was there, it was only to help clean the women's dressing rooms.




Size Nine, nine nine!

9 seems to be the IQ of your statements, as of late. Then again, you're the guy that castigated Cain for allegedly lying and committing adultery, yet excused Gringrich for ACTUALLY lying and committing adultery.

Of course, this is the part where you actually address the topic at hand.

[Dos Equis]

Well it's pretty clear which policy the employer favors. 

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Gayness and political correct buffoonery strikes again.


Macy’s Fires Employee for Protecting Women’s Dressing Rooms from Cross-dresser


A young woman was fired from the Macy's San Antonio Rivercenter department store in Texas for refusing to violate her religious beliefs by permitting a young man dressed as a woman from entering the women’s dressing room. Natalie Johnson claims she saw the young man walk out of the women’s fitting room and politely told him that he could not go back in because it was for women only. The cross-dressing young man claimed that he is a “female.” Johnson said that he was wearing make-up and girl’s clothing, but clearly he was a male. The cross-dresser was accompanied by five other individuals. The group argued with expletives that Macy’s is LGBT-friendly, to which Johnson replied that Macy’s is also non-discriminatory toward religion, and that it would go against her religious beliefs to lie that he was a woman or compromise with homosexuality. The group then demanded to speak with a manager.

When Johnson was confronted by her employer, she explained that she could not allow a male to change in a female’s fitting room. Johnson’s boss referred her to Macy’s LGBT policy which allows “transgender” people to change in any dressing room they want. However, Johnson pointed out that the same policy also protects against religious discrimination and, in this case, it protects her right to her beliefs that were being violated. The manager demanded that she comply with the LGBT policies or lose her job. Johnson refused to go against her sincerely held religious beliefs and was terminated from her job.

Macy’s policy which allows men to use the women’s dressing room is fraught with problems. This policy will cause significant problems and will alienate the majority of Macy’s customers. Macy’s has essentially opened women’s dressing rooms to every man. The LGBT agenda has become the theater of the absurd.

http://www.lc.org/index.cfm?PID=14102&AlertID=1337

Not really....the policies are for the benefit of the "customer"...not the employee.  She was made aware of the LGBT policy and she refused to follow it.  
Besides, all of the dressing rooms are private.


Sorry but she was stupid....

[tonymctones]

^^^
so is the policy

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

^^^
so is the policy

When you work for any company nowadays, there's always a bunch of retarded policies. 

[tonymctones]

When you work for any company nowadays, there's always a bunch of retarded policies. 

correct, doesnt make them ok or justifiable.

This man is well, A MAN!!!

and as such logically shouldnt be allowed in the WOMENS dressing room.

[LurkerNoMore]

Dressing rooms are private.  It doesn't matter if it is a co-ed policy.  Only one person per room is the norm.  Someone's sexual orientation shouldn't matter.

[MCWAY]

Dressing rooms are private.  It doesn't matter if it is a co-ed policy.  Only one person per room is the norm.  Someone's sexual orientation shouldn't matter.

This isn't about sexual orientation. Even gay guys have to use the MEN'S restroom. This kook, claiming he's a female and his actually BEING female are two different items.

He wasn't even a tranny, just a dude with some screws loose and an identity crisis.

[LurkerNoMore]

What was Macy's policy?

[Dos Equis]

What was Macy's policy?

They had two:

1.  "LGBT policy which allows 'transgender' people to change in any dressing room they want"

2.  "However, Johnson pointed out that the same policy also protects against religious discrimination"

They followed one and ignored the other. 

[LurkerNoMore]

What if she was discriminating against the tranny's religious beliefs?  All I see was that she only took her religious beliefs into consideration.   Not anyone else's.

Since she put her religious beliefs first, then I assume that God will put food on the table for her.

[MCWAY]

What if she was discriminating against the tranny's religious beliefs?  All I see was that she only took her religious beliefs into consideration.   Not anyone else's.

Since she put her religious beliefs first, then I assume that God will put food on the table for her.

And what religious beliefs would that be, "Thou shalt pretend to be a girl, to use the women's dressing room"?

Again, he's not EVEN A TRANNY. He's a guy, period.

By this silly logic, any guy can walk in the women's dressing room.

[dario73]

By this silly logic, any guy can walk in the women's dressing room.

Lets see if those defending Macy's idiotic policy can comprehend this logical statement.

It will go right over their heads. Or it will be ignored.

Common sense and decency are dead.  Fitting rooms today, restrooms tomorrow.

[MCWAY]

Lets see if those defending Macy's idiotic policy can comprehend this logical statement.

It will go right over their heads. Or it will be ignored.

Common sense and decency are dead.  Fitting rooms today, restrooms tomorrow.

EXACTLY!!

What's clothes got to do with anything? All some guy has to do is claim he's really a girl and he gets to use the women's dressing facilities? How stupid is that!!!

[LurkerNoMore]

So religion trumps company policy is that it?

While Macy's has a policy

that also protects against religious discrimination

I am pretty sure that it means it protects employees and customers from being discriminated against because of their religious beliefs.  Not that it allows employees and customers to force their religious beliefs onto one another in an act of suppression.

In the end, the first rule of business is The Customer Is Always Right.   Macy's acted accordingly by letting her go for not following company policy.

[MCWAY]

So religion trumps company policy is that it?

While Macy's has a policy  I am pretty sure that it means it protects employees and customers from being discriminated against because of their religious beliefs.  Not that it allows employees and customers to force their religious beliefs onto one another in an act of suppression.

In the end, the first rule of business is The Customer Is Always Right.   Macy's acted accordingly by letting her go for not following company policy.

Do regular guys get to dress in women's rooms or not?

This guy wasn't a tranny. By surface accounts, his "parts" were present and accounted for.

To claim that a dude has a right to dress in women's dressing rooms, by simply thinking he's a girl is ludicrous.

And, as Beach Bum stated, the company policy covers religious rights. This would be known as selective enforcement. It's easier to castigate people of religious faith than homos.

[LurkerNoMore]

The context here isn't about what the guy was or wasn't.  It is about an employee using her religious beliefs to deny a customer something the company allowed.  Again, I am sure Macy's company policy in regards to religion protects both employees and customers from having religious actions forced upon them.

Since you seem to be obsessed with the LGBT issue of it, let's try this a different way.

Target needs a cashier.  They select a young lady out of their pool of applicants as their new hire.  Customers come up to the young lady's cashier station with Christmas ornaments and merchandise.  The young lady happens to be a Jehovah's Witness.  She refuses to ring up their Christmas related merchandise because Christmas is against the religion of JW.   Target has a company that does not allow the discrimination of people for religious grounds.

What should Target do?

[MCWAY]

The context here isn't about what the guy was or wasn't.  It is about an employee using her religious beliefs to deny a customer something the company allowed.  Again, I am sure Macy's company policy in regards to religion protects both employees and customers from having religious actions forced upon them.

Since you seem to be obsessed with the LGBT issue of it, let's try this a different way.

Target needs a cashier.  They select a young lady out of their pool of applicants as their new hire.  Customers come up to the young lady's cashier station with Christmas ornaments and merchandise.  The young lady happens to be a Jehovah's Witness.  She refuses to ring up their Christmas related merchandise because Christmas is against the religion of JW.   Target has a company that does not allow the discrimination of people for religious grounds.

What should Target do?

What a ludicrous comparison. First, no JW (and I know some personally) would likely have such an issue.

Second, there is a general policy in store that MEN dress in MEN'S rooms and WOMEN dress in WOMEN's dressing rooms. This was a GUY (despite his cracked pysche). By rule, he goes to the guy's dressing rooms. Did the other gay guys (those who don't act like fairies) go into the women's rooms? My guess is they went to the men's room.

And, he's not even a tranny, just a fruity (i.e. effeminate) gay guy. If a non-fruity gay dude still has to use the men's rooms, then the fruit should as well. Just as dressing like a duck doesn't make him a duck, dressing like a girl doesn't make him girl.

[LurkerNoMore]

Words to live by :

There are those who seem to confuse religious belief with religious dictatorship.

Apparently the ex-employee is one of those.  Again, you didn't answer the prior scenario I laid out. 
Please show me how she was discriminated against because of her religion?

[MCWAY]

Words to live by :

Courtesy of "Lez Get Real", I take it.

Apparently the ex-employee is one of those.  Again, you didn't answer the prior scenario I laid out.  
Please show me how she was discriminated against because of her religion?

Religious dictatorship? Telling a MAN he has to use the MEN'S dressing room?

She was discriminated against, because she was not given the benefit of the doubt as an employee. She followed procedure.

This guy was just that, a guy, not a woman or a tranny. Thus, like every other guy, he needs to use the men's facilities. Plus, despite citing company policy regarding her religious rights as well as the LGBT thing, she was berated by the fruit and his friends.

Rather than face a bunch of cranky gay-rights bubbas, Macy's simply chickened out by firing this woman.

[LurkerNoMore]

She did not follow procedure.  It is clearly posted by Macy's and referenced in the article

Johnson’s boss referred her to Macy’s LGBT policy which allows “transgender” people to change in any dressing room they want.

Again, how did her religious discrimination occur?

[MCWAY]

She did not follow procedure.  It is clearly posted by Macy's and referenced in the article

Johnson’s boss referred her to Macy’s LGBT policy which allows “transgender” people to change in any dressing room they want.

Again, how did her religious discrimination occur?

This guy wasn't "transgender". He was simply a cross-dresser. The article also said, Johnson said that he was wearing make-up and girl’s clothing, but clearly he was a male.

He's a guy, not a girl or a girl-in-transit. He's a GUY and GUYS dress in the GUY'S dressing room.

Thinking you're a girl no more makes you a girl than thinking you're a chicken makes you poultry.

[LurkerNoMore]

So she looked inside his pants?  Isn't the transgender conversion something that takes place over a couple of years or something?  Starting with hormone shots and such?  I don't think you just go from looking masculine to feminine over a weekend.  I think it is safe to assume that Johnson herself is not a medical expert or doctor of any kind.  Or else she wouldn't be working at Macy's.  So she would not have any other reason or qualification outside her own biased viewpoint to determine whether this person was actually actively undergoing transgender therapy at the moment.

Again, you have failed to show how she suffered religious discrimination.