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steamboatwillie

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Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« on: December 08, 2011, 02:08:16 PM »
So Doggcrap has this big "secret" about how to add inches to your lat spread instantly....but refuses to tell us how.  Sounds fishy to me.  Is this for real or is it more filth?  I've been doing extreme stretching for about 2 years and my back hasn't changed much at all.
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2011, 02:09:13 PM »
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2011, 02:10:16 PM »
"steamboatwillie".... :-\  ?
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2011, 02:20:06 PM »
Quote from: steamboatwillie on December 08, 2011, 02:08:16 PM
So Doggcrap has this big "secret" about how to add inches to your lat spread instantly....but refuses to tell us how.  Sounds fishy to me.  Is this for real or is it more filth?  I've been doing extreme stretching for about 2 years and my back hasn't changed much at all.

"Doggcrapp", the name says it all.

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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2011, 02:34:28 PM »
Isn't Doggcrap the guy that looks like overbaked ham and quenches his thirst via water from golden faucets?
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2011, 02:38:29 PM »
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2011, 04:23:21 PM »
Thanks.....now Im just pissed thinking of the hours I've spent hanging from the chinup bar and doing the doorknob stretch over the last couple years.  Maybe its time for less stretching and more injecting!
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2011, 04:28:58 PM »
scapular mobility was the key to my wide lat spread. it was also one of the reasons my back was frail. i knew a powerlifter who had thick lats, but he couldn't do a lat spread. i realized that if he had my scapular mobility, he would have ripped his muscles to pieces pulling heavy deads. i always had spasms and microtears in the area whenever i tried going heavy on back or even squats.
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2011, 04:36:42 PM »
Maybe that's my problem.  I'm real strong on back....and have a lot of upper back thickness, but can't spread them for shit.
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2011, 05:25:24 PM »
Quote from: _bruce_ on December 08, 2011, 02:34:28 PM
Isn't Doggcrap the guy that looks like overbaked ham and quenches his thirst via water from golden faucets?
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2011, 05:43:12 PM »
Yes its real and its not a secret. We do as part of our pre-hab routine call "scap retractions" for sub-scap strength. Its closing and opening the scaps wide. He's trying to pawn something off as some sort of new found "manipulation" when its been around forever.
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2011, 05:49:23 PM »
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2011, 10:48:58 PM »
Quote from: The Coach on December 08, 2011, 05:43:12 PM
Yes its real and its not a secret. We do as part of our pre-hab routine call "scap retractions" for sub-scap strength. Its closing and opening the scaps wide. He's trying to pawn something off as some sort of new found "manipulation" when its been around forever.

Joe, wasn't it Ed Jubinville that could literally dislocate his shoulder blades?  called himself a master of muscle control?
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2011, 02:17:14 AM »
Quote from: The Coach on December 08, 2011, 05:43:12 PM
Yes its real and its not a secret. We do as part of our pre-hab routine call "scap retractions" for sub-scap strength. Its closing and opening the scaps wide. He's trying to pawn something off as some sort of new found "manipulation" when its been around forever.

Thank goodness you were here to tell us Coach ...now we don't have to worry
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2011, 02:41:54 AM »
Quote from: hazbin on December 08, 2011, 04:28:58 PM
scapular mobility was the key to my wide lat spread. it was also one of the reasons my back was frail. i knew a powerlifter who had thick lats, but he couldn't do a lat spread. i realized that if he had my scapular mobility, he would have ripped his muscles to pieces pulling heavy deads. i always had spasms and microtears in the area whenever i tried going heavy on back or even squats.
so in the quest for one, you gotta sacrifice the other
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2011, 11:20:24 AM »
Quote from: Figo on December 09, 2011, 02:41:54 AM
so in the quest for one, you gotta sacrifice the other

that is what i believe.  you look at a lot of the converted powerlifters to bodybuilders. very thick backs, but not great lat spreads. (exception Ronnie, but he's a alien hybrid, lol).
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2011, 11:22:09 AM »
Quote from: hazbin on December 08, 2011, 10:48:58 PM
Joe, wasn't it Ed Jubinville that could literally dislocate his shoulder blades?  called himself a master of muscle control?
Haz,Jubinville could move any muscle in his body at will,as well as several different muscle groups at a time.
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2011, 11:28:58 AM »
Quote from: wes on December 09, 2011, 11:22:09 AM
Haz,Jubinville could move any muscle in his body at will,as well as several different muscle groups at a time.

thought i had the name right.  old books i had/have somewhere have pics of him literally dislocating his scapula.
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2011, 11:39:49 AM »
Quote from: hazbin on December 08, 2011, 10:48:58 PM
Joe, wasn't it Ed Jubinville that could literally dislocate his shoulder blades?  called himself a master of muscle control?

Not sure Haz.
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2011, 11:41:11 AM »
Quote from: Groink on December 09, 2011, 02:17:14 AM
Thank goodness you were here to tell us Coach ...now we don't have to worry

Yes..because you would have never known other wise and might have believed that "doggcrapp" really did have a secret ::)
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2011, 11:47:12 AM »
Why does a grown man refer to himself as Doggcrapp ???
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2011, 11:53:20 AM »
Quote from: Hulkotron on December 09, 2011, 11:47:12 AM
Why does a grown man refer to himself as Doggcrapp ???

It sounds more hardcore.
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2011, 11:55:30 AM »
stretching does help the lats but if you are going to overstretch thinking that it well give you better results you might as well eat some buffalo wings that should help too.
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2011, 01:35:02 PM »
Quote from: steamboatwillie on December 08, 2011, 02:08:16 PM
So Doggcrap has this big "secret" about how to add inches to your lat spread instantly....but refuses to tell us how.  Sounds fishy to me.  Is this for real or is it more filth?  I've been doing extreme stretching for about 2 years and my back hasn't changed much at all.
Look i don't know the deal behind the doggcrap metod but i always believed in doing streching via hanging from a chin up bar with wide grip and pushin the elbows forward to achieve max. spreading of the lats. I think it helps in creating a better v shape. And try to hang for as long as possible at the end of your back routine.
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Re: Scapula Manipulation?? Fact or Balonie
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2011, 01:36:50 PM »
Quote from: hazbin on December 09, 2011, 11:28:58 AM
thought i had the name right.  old books i had/have somewhere have pics of him literally dislocating his scapula.
Yup,I`ve seen him do his muscle control act back in the day ......guy was unbelievable.
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