if you all agree I'm maxed out naturally, does that mean this guy is not natty?

[purenaturalstrength]

guy on the left is my height (6') yet weighs 220 (i weigh 185) and has 20" arms he says (i have 39.5cm/under16")

bodyfat is about the same i guess

[QuakerOats]

hes taller than 6 feet and i believe the 20 inch arm claim, those arms are big, compare them to Dennis who's are 22.

[wes]

He might have bigger bones than you so he can carry more size............plus he probably isn`t doing a 5 X 5 routine. 

[purenaturalstrength]

hes taller than 6 feet and i believe the 20 inch arm claim, those arms are big, compare them to Dennis who's are 22.

When I am in my best condition, and that is about all year round unless I didn't work out for awhile because of one reason or the other, my body weight is about 100 kg (220 lbs) at a length of 183 cm (6 feet) and a body fat percentage of about 12%.

http://www.true-natural-bodybuilding.com/aboutme.html

[purenaturalstrength]

He might have bigger bones than you so he can carry more size............plus he probably isn`t doing a 5 X 5 routine. 

if bodyparts splits work for anyone it is actually proof they are juicing


such high volume yet low frequency are counterproductive for natural


i found out myself and saw a lot of people in the gym find out

[wes]

When I am in my best condition, and that is about all year round unless I didn't work out for awhile because of one reason or the other, my body weight is about 100 kg (220 lbs) at a length of 183 cm (6 feet) and a body fat percentage of about 12%.

http://www.true-natural-bodybuilding.com/aboutme.html

OK,he`s older than you and has been training longer.

Take any two people,same height,all natural,and they will usually look completely different.

[Hulkotron]

I wish someone would max out your ability to post threads.

[purenaturalstrength]

OK,he`s older than you and has been training longer.

Take any two people,same height,all natural,and they will usually look completely different.

that doesn't mean shit and you know it!

classic makebelieve trick to fool new kids


diminishing returns mean there is almost no difference between training 5 years and 15 years naturally

[wes]

if bodyparts splits work for anyone it is actually proof they are juicing


such high volume yet low frequency are counterproductive for natural


i found out myself and saw a lot of people in the gym find out

A closed mind is a terrible thing.

You may respond differently to it today.

Not necessarily high volume,but more reps, with a focus on squeezing and stretching the muscle you are training............and gaining on a split routine hardly means a person is on drugs.

Doing a 5 x 5 routine works great for adding strength and size,but your body will adapt to it and stop responding after a while just like it would on any other type of training.....this is the time to switch things up.

[wes]

that doesn't mean shit and you know it!

classic makebelieve trick to fool new kids


diminishing returns mean there is almost no difference between training 5 years and 15 years naturally

If you know the answers,why ask fucking questions?

GEEZUS!!

[purenaturalstrength]

If you know the answers,why ask fucking questions?

GEEZUS!!

i want getbig to tell me this guy is not natural


but they refuse to do so

[wes]

This is my last response to any of your threads as it seems I`m the only idiot that helps you keep the fucking things going.

I won`t make this mistake again.

[the trainer]

When I am in my best condition, and that is about all year round unless I didn't work out for awhile because of one reason or the other, my body weight is about 100 kg (220 lbs) at a length of 183 cm (6 feet) and a body fat percentage of about 12%.

http://www.true-natural-bodybuilding.com/aboutme.html

do not be afraid of steroids take some anavar tabs stack with creatine for some strong lean gains, you can even put them in a vitamin bottle to hide them from your girlfriend.

[njflex]

This is my last response to any of your threads as it seems I`m the only idiot that helps you keep the fucking things going.

I won`t make this mistake again.

what are u gonna do wes,,,and either way the guy looks like he lifts,but every picture i see i'm not that impressed if he's drugged or not.

[wes]

what are u gonna do wes,,,and either way the guy looks like he lifts,but every picture i see i'm not that impressed if he's drugged or not.

5 X 5 routine bro......only good for power after you use it a while.

I think 5 x 5 should only be used occasionally to gain power on a certain lift,not exclusively for the whole body,but then again.

Just my opinion,but you need to get more blood in the muscle and 5 x5 just ain`t gonna` cut it.

[ChevChelios]

Here is your answers,on his webpage:

"Currently I work since 2003 in one of the biggest pharmaceutical companies of the world,"

Need i say more?

[purenaturalstrength]

5 X 5 routine bro......only good for power after you use it a while.

I think 5 x 5 should only be used occasionally to gain power on a certain lift,not exclusively for the whole body,but then again.

Just my opinion,but you need to get more blood in the muscle and 5 x5 just ain`t gonna` cut it.

MORE BRO SCIENCE! god you are horrible


"if pump or soreness were an indication of growth then all the knuckle heads at gold's gym would be sporting 24" arms" --mike mentzer

[wes]

Here is your answers,on his webpage:

"Currently I work since 2003 in one of the biggest pharmaceutical companies of the world,"

Need i say more?

BINGO!! 

[purenaturalstrength]

sometimes i'd like to beat the truth out of these so-called naturals with a bat

[QuakerOats]

i want getbig to tell me this guy is not natural


but they refuse to do so

he isnt natural, why do you think he is? because he told you? that is big guy, maybe not IFBB  big but way too big to be natural.

[Parker]

Aren't you 23? Well you've got another 20 some yrs to see if you have maxed out.

[Max B]

if bodyparts splits work for anyone it is actually proof they are juicing


such high volume yet low frequency are counterproductive for natural


i found out myself and saw a lot of people in the gym find out

you're pathetic dude. 

[BILL ANVIL]

Big dude, looks natural too. Big armed, pencil neck dork 20"+

[Mawse]

he comes from a small town which means he's probably natural, also he has been training for 10 years and probably does something like layne norton's PHAT routine or DC training.

anyone can have 20" arms naturally if they just believe in themselves and don't set limits.

[howardroark]

Why are you so crazy jealous about this guy when people routinely tell you he could be natural?