if you all agree I'm maxed out naturally, does that mean this guy is not natty?

[Swlabr]

ah fuck

Yeah. How much did you squat?

[wes]

will i still have some training effect tho?

[purenaturalstrength]

Yeah. How much did you squat?

5x5x150kg

my best is 5x5x155 but was in a regression period recently now improving again

[dustin]

I don't drink a ton but I have been getting buzzed a little more often than in the past. I haven't noticed anything yet, but then again I'm on dem dere hormonas.

I just have a couple stiff drinks in the evening with a fine marijuana cigarette to unwind.

[purenaturalstrength]

You're just angry because I scorned your bro science advice

[Swlabr]

5x5x150kg

my best is 5x5x155 but was in a regression period recently now improving again

How long have you been training?

[purenaturalstrength]

I don't drink a ton but I have been getting buzzed a little more often than in the past. I haven't noticed anything yet, but then again I'm on dem dere hormonas.

I just have a couple stiff drinks in the evening with a fine marijuana cigarette to unwind.

i drank 2 beers and i believe 3 cans of whiskey cola mixture

[purenaturalstrength]

How long have you been training?

a long time 

but at least the squats were high bar full depth with no belt or knee stuff

maybe next year start pumping hormones in my body like the rest of getbig

but first think it through like an old jew

[Swlabr]

a long time 

but at least the squats were high bar full depth with no belt or knee stuff

maybe next year start pumping hormones in my body like the rest of getbig

but first think it through like an old jew

lol

Me - training for 1.5 years or so - 150x14 squat, 180x6.

Start hormonising, you pussy.

[Borracho]

i drank 2 beers and i believe 3 cans of whiskey cola mixture

hahah you animal.

[wes]

i drank 2 beers and i believe 3 cans of whiskey cola mixture

[booty]

i drank 2 beers and i believe 3 cans of whiskey cola mixture

Did you eat after you trained? 

[purenaturalstrength]

Did you eat after you trained? 

no nothing only drinking

 

but i stuffed all day so figured it was still digesting so it wouldnt matter?

[booty]

no nothing only drinking

 

but i stuffed all day so figured it was still digesting so it wouldnt matter?

When you say stuffed, what did you eat that day?  Diet is extremely important if you want to gain lean muscle mass.  It's okay to have a couple of drinks now and then, but you probably should have eaten a good nutrious meal first. 

[purenaturalstrength]

When you say stuffed, what did you eat that day?  Diet is extremely important if you want to gain lean muscle mass.  It's okay to have a couple of drinks now and then, but you probably should have eaten a good nutrious meal first. 

breakfast 2 cups of oats blended with water and protein shake, then pasta with rice a couple hours later then 3 chicken pasta/rice meals at work

about 3000kcal probably

[oldtimer1]

Whole routines are ideal for natural trainers. Splits work too.  In splits there are over laps of training bodyparts. You can't really isolate the body to well.  Lets take a typical split.  One day is chest and back. The next is legs and the last is delts/arms.  When you train chest and back there is absolutely no way you can train them without training the tricep, bicep with some delt involvement.  Doing deadlifts on chest and back day you are training legs.  On delt and arm day lets say one of your tricep exercises are weighted dips or close grips. You are then training chest too.  So split routines you are still hitting the other bodyparts.

Whole body routines are constantly given the beginner status but as I said previous I think it's way harder than split routines.

[g101]

depends on dose, how long you use gh for and most importantly purity/quality of the GH

[wes]

depends on dose, how long you use gh for and most importantly purity/quality of the GH

[Archer77]

Thank you Will. 

x2

[Per Se]

guy on the left is my height (6') yet weighs 220 (i weigh 185) and has 20" arms he says (i have 39.5cm/under16")

bodyfat is about the same i guess

I've seen this guy's website.  He looks big.  But he doesn't look in any way outstanding.  I don't believe that he has awesome genetics.  Just a guy who's been training hard for a long time.

[Per Se]

If he would ask no problem but the main thing is the dude is very negative and is comparing himself to other athletes, just do your thing what comes out of it comes its still your hard work.

Agreed.

[JZMB]

anything over 14'' for me is hormonized