Author Topic: What's the dealio with Intermitent Fasting? (Read 3053 times)

anab0lic · « **on:** December 08, 2011, 06:35:05 PM »

16 hours without food/protein? Fasted workouts?

Seems like a great way to lose a bunch of muscle to me...

haider · « **Reply #1 on:** December 08, 2011, 06:36:15 PM »

your mom would do well to make us some brownies

outby43 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 08, 2011, 06:37:28 PM »

I think TA does this. Have never seen a pic newer than 6 years old of him so can't comment on the effectiveness.

Grape Ape · « **Reply #3 on:** December 08, 2011, 06:39:40 PM »

It's all here: leangains.com

The True Adonis · « **Reply #4 on:** December 08, 2011, 06:59:59 PM »

Quote from: anab0lic on December 08, 2011, 06:35:05 PM

16 hours without food/protein? Fasted workouts?

Seems like a great way to lose a bunch of muscle to me...

I have been doing it for a few years now. You won`t lose anything. You will probably gain muscle and lose bodyfat whilst improving your overall health.

basil · « **Reply #5 on:** December 08, 2011, 07:39:15 PM »

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/john_berardis_great_fasting_experiment

Grape Ape · « **Reply #6 on:** December 08, 2011, 08:02:34 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on December 08, 2011, 06:59:59 PM

I have been doing it for a few years now. You won`t lose anything. You will probably gain muscle and lose bodyfat whilst improving your overall health.

I've read the blogs and grabbed the concept, wonder how wine and stuff fits the equation. If I workout at noon, that kicks off my feeding window of 8 hrs. Does that eliminate a couple glasses after 8 o'clock?

QuakerOats · « **Reply #7 on:** December 08, 2011, 08:04:49 PM »

Quote from: anab0lic on December 08, 2011, 06:35:05 PM

16 hours without food/protein? Fasted workouts?

Seems like a great way to lose a bunch of muscle to me...

your body would adapt to it like it does any other "diet", it's still all about calories in vs. calories out.

Borracho · « **Reply #8 on:** December 08, 2011, 08:13:57 PM »

Things that would be an issue for me is to not over eat during feeding hours and not to eat during fasting. Would like to give it a shot but if you're not strict with it I think you might be worse off. For me carb cycling would work better since there's more flexibility throughout the week. Only one way to find out how it works though and that is to try it for yourself.

aesthetics · « **Reply #9 on:** December 08, 2011, 08:27:07 PM »

Quote from: anab0lic on December 08, 2011, 06:35:05 PM

16 hours without food/protein? Fasted workouts?

Seems like a great way to lose a bunch of muscle to me...

seems like you're wrong

Nomad · « **Reply #10 on:** December 08, 2011, 08:35:13 PM »

Gimmick idea. Just get some steroids.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #11 on:** December 08, 2011, 09:06:38 PM »

Johnberardi.com

The True Adonis · « **Reply #12 on:** December 08, 2011, 09:35:30 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on December 08, 2011, 09:06:38 PM

Johnberardi.com

Oh now you support it, when previously you were trying to say how wrong I was and that six meals a day was necessary.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #13 on:** December 08, 2011, 09:46:38 PM »

You got the info from the same place. Since you're usually wrong 90% of the time, I had to HEAR it from the man himself. But I don't by into ot 100%.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #14 on:** December 08, 2011, 09:47:36 PM »

BTW, congrats. This is the first time you've answered without a cut and paste.

howardroark · « **Reply #15 on:** December 08, 2011, 09:48:28 PM »

It works. Read everything on leangains.com.

The True Adonis · « **Reply #16 on:** December 08, 2011, 09:49:59 PM »

Quote from: The Coach on December 08, 2011, 09:47:36 PM

BTW, congrats. This is the first time you've answered without a cut and paste.

IF is not new though. I read about it years ago when I studied Caloric Restriction and Anti-Aging/Longevity.

Army of One · « **Reply #17 on:** December 08, 2011, 10:05:56 PM »

Quote from: QuakerOats on December 08, 2011, 08:04:49 PM

your body would adapt to it like it does any other "diet", it's still all about calories in vs. calories out.

Your trailer window picture tells me this knowledge doesnt come from personal experience

dyslexic · « **Reply #18 on:** December 08, 2011, 10:10:37 PM »

I can go a day without food once a week as long as I drink a little bit of something (not alcohol) ~

juicyjay · « **Reply #19 on:** December 08, 2011, 10:26:04 PM »

it only works the way it's supposed to with slin, gh, gear, peps, etc. look up info by datbtrue, not on here, but other boards. he has his own board too, but it's private. it works, but like i said, you NEED to use slin. it is awesome for fat loss, quality muscle gain, overall health, and longevity.

basil · « **Reply #20 on:** December 08, 2011, 10:47:45 PM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on December 08, 2011, 09:49:59 PM

IF is not new though. I read about it years ago when I studied Caloric Restriction and Anti-Aging/Longevity.

When i first read that, I tought it said 'Anti-Gravity'.

Super Natural · « **Reply #21 on:** December 08, 2011, 11:49:51 PM »

It's definitely useful way of eating, depends what your goals are.

I'm in my off season now so I only use IF on the days I don't train or when taking time off from training. I found his protocol for early morning fasted training wasn't the best for me when trying to gain mass now (delaying eating till noon) I train at 6:00am. I found it effected my performance in a bad way. Training fasted by just bracketing my workouts with just BCAA was not enough for me. On the days I train I've continue to add carbs around my workouts. Training at noon or in the evening would probably be more conductive to this approach of eating.
That said I may move to "fasted workouts" when pre-contest comes and my focus swings to fat loss.

What I do during the off season currently is this, is working very well:

Off day (3x week) LOWER CALORIE, LOW CARB DAYS

6 AM: 10g BCAA
8 AM: 10g BCAA
10 AM: 10g BCAA
1:30 PM Eat first meal, largest of the day (100g pro/30g carbs/20g fat)
4:30 PM Eat second meal, moderate sized meal (75g pro/30g carbs/15g fat)
8:30 PM Eat third meal, moderate sized meal (50g pro/30g carbs/15g fat)

Training day (4x week) HIGH CALORIE, HIGHER CARB DAYS

6 AM: 10g BCAA + scoop creamass (30-40g carbs/10g protein)
TRAIN
8 AM: 10G BCAA + scoop creamass (30-40g carbs/10g protein)
10 AM: 10G BCAA + scoop creamass (30-40g carbs/10g protein)
1:30 PM Eat first meal, largest of the day (100g pro/100g carbs/15g fat)
4:30 PM Eat second meal, moderate sized meal (50g pro/50g carbs/10g fat)
8:30 PM Eat third meal, moderate sized meal (25g pro/30g carbs/10g fat)

lm · « **Reply #22 on:** December 09, 2011, 01:39:30 AM »

Quote from: The True Adonis on December 08, 2011, 06:59:59 PM

I have been doing it for a few years now. You won`t lose anything. You will probably gain muscle and lose bodyfat whilst improving your overall health.

So that would make you bigger and leaner than ever. Why not post a recent pic?

dj181 · « **Reply #23 on:** December 09, 2011, 03:28:58 AM »

The Cybergenics diet back in the 80s followed the IF protocol, along with carb and cal cycling.

WillGrant · « **Reply #24 on:** December 09, 2011, 03:35:33 AM »

Quote from: dj181 on December 09, 2011, 03:28:58 AM

The Cybergenics diet back in the 80s followed the IF protocol, along with carb and cal cycling.

And they were all loaded on steroids in the Cybergenics adds