Poll

Should we end immigration or is it fine the way it is?

We need to end all Immigration
4 (40%)
We need to let more come, the more the merrier.
2 (20%)
It's fine the way it is now.
0 (0%)
other: post your opinion.
4 (40%)

Total Members Voted: 9

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Hugo Chavez

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Poll on Immigration Policy:
« on: December 09, 2011, 07:07:05 PM »
What's your thinking on this?  If the poll option doesn't fit, post your opinion.

George Whorewell

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2011, 07:17:28 PM »
Electric fences, moats with alligators and snipers with shoot to kill orders.

All illegals in this country who have been convicted of ANY crime= automatic deportation

All illegals in this country with clean records= can stay if they pay fines, are denied public assistance of any kind and are put in the back of the line for becoming legal

All illegals in this country 17+= Must provide a minimum of two years of military service + comply with the above requirements and then will be placed in the back of the line to become legal

Immigration from the middle east, the Arabian peninsula, and countries with known terrorist ties such as Pakistan= Minimum 10 year freeze on all immigration

That's a pretty good start-- but none of your choices captured that so I just voted no immigration.



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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2011, 03:48:02 PM »
Continue legal immigration.  Stop all illegal immigration.


Hugo Chavez

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2011, 04:08:58 PM »
Continue legal immigration.  Stop all illegal immigration.


why do we need to even continue legal immigration?  Do we have a shortage of people?

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2011, 04:15:36 PM »
why do we need to even continue legal immigration?  Do we have a shortage of people?

Why not? Koreans, Chinese, Indians, Japanese, etc, etc are some of the hardest-working Americans out there and don't really bother anyone.

This is a country of immigrants. Kind of defeats the entire purpose of it if you cut off what made it great.

Hugo Chavez

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2011, 04:26:04 PM »
Why not? Koreans, Chinese, Indians, Japanese, etc, etc are some of the hardest-working Americans out there and don't really bother anyone.

This is a country of immigrants. Kind of defeats the entire purpose of it if you cut off what made it great.
I didn't say anything about these people bothering anyone.  Just seems like we have enough people here.  If the purpose of immigration was to build a nation, mission accomplished. 

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2011, 04:52:18 PM »
how about we enforce the laws we have on the books?

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2011, 08:05:27 PM »
I didn't say anything about these people bothering anyone.  Just seems like we have enough people here.  If the purpose of immigration was to build a nation, mission accomplished. 


Nah, we have plenty of room and lot's of opportunity for those who wish to come and work hard.




Mctones - FUCK YEAH!  Enforce, enforce, enforce.  Unfortunately, politicians seem to avoid it like the plague.

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2011, 09:45:29 AM »
We don't need to end immigration.  We need to end illegal immigration. 

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2011, 10:19:01 AM »
We don't need to end immigration.  We need to end illegal immigration. 

this..Put a limit on how many entrants per country actually. Mandatory 4 years military service to become permanent resident. (Okay maybe not this but something similar along the lines)

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2011, 12:41:59 PM »
this..Put a limit on how many entrants per country actually. Mandatory 4 years military service to become permanent resident. (Okay maybe not this but something similar along the lines)

I think what they have now is fine.  the issue is the illegals, not the legals. 

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2011, 01:07:26 PM »
1.) deport all that entered Illegally (You broke the law) ....no exceptions....as over 70% of illegals are on Government assistance.

2.) Do away with Birth Right Citizenship immediately.

3.) I would also be ok with ending all Immigration for 10 years (maybe longer) as we are no longer a melting pot


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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2011, 01:29:42 PM »
End all immigration and watch our economy go to shit.

I can't believe I'm the only one not retarded enough to vote "the more the merrier."

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2011, 01:40:42 PM »
* Enforce Border Security – America should be guarding her own borders and enforcing her own laws instead of policing the world and implementing UN mandates.

* No Amnesty - The Obama Administration’s endorsement of so-called “Comprehensive Immigration Reform,” granting amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, will only encourage more law-breaking.

* Abolish the Welfare State – Taxpayers cannot continue to pay the high costs to sustain this powerful incentive for illegal immigration.  As Milton Friedman famously said, you can’t have open borders and a welfare state.

* End Birthright Citizenship
– As long as illegal immigrants know their children born here will be granted U.S. citizenship, we’ll never be able to control our immigration problem.

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/immigration/

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2011, 03:16:00 PM »
End all immigration and watch our economy go to shit.

I can't believe I'm the only one not retarded enough to vote "the more the merrier."
Not retarded.  Our economy is shit now.  You have a good point and I was also thinking of that but if we had not done so many other things to screw our economy I don't think it would be a big deal to end immigration.

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2011, 03:23:03 PM »
Why not? Koreans, Chinese, Indians, Japanese, etc, etc are some of the hardest-working Americans out there and don't really bother anyone.

This is a country of immigrants. Kind of defeats the entire purpose of it if you cut off what made it great.

Great post

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #16 on: December 13, 2011, 03:25:09 PM »
Why not? Koreans, Chinese, Indians, Japanese, etc, etc are some of the hardest-working Americans out there and don't really bother anyone.

This is a country of immigrants. Kind of defeats the entire purpose of it if you cut off what made it great.

Great perspective, I take back my previous post but I do agree with ending born citizenship. If the parents are here illegally, that doesn't give kids automatic citizenship

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #17 on: December 13, 2011, 03:30:48 PM »
Not retarded.  Our economy is shit now.  You have a good point and I was also thinking of that but if we had not done so many other things to screw our economy I don't think it would be a big deal to end immigration.


Even if our economy were prosperous right now, ending or severely limiting immigration would kill long-term economic growth in this country. Imagine this country without all of the foreign-born academics, entrepreneurs, researchers, executives, and even the cheap unskilled labor. Immigrants are VITAL to economic prosperity in this country.

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2011, 09:02:40 PM »
Even if our economy were prosperous right now, ending or severely limiting immigration would kill long-term economic growth in this country. Imagine this country without all of the foreign-born academics, entrepreneurs, researchers, executives, and even the cheap unskilled labor. Immigrants are VITAL to economic prosperity in this country.


Go back to Africa Howard.

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2011, 09:10:41 PM »

Go back to Africa Howard.

I can't - their immigration policies are too backwards and restrictive. In fact, that partially explains why African economies are so terribly stagnant.

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2011, 09:12:21 PM »
I can't - their immigration policies are too backwards and restrictive. In fact, that partially explains why African economies are so terribly stagnant.

I guess that strict immigration policies and the cannibalism probably play a key role.

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2011, 09:26:02 PM »
I guess that strict immigration policies and the cannibalism probably play a key role.

Restrictive immigration policies, backwards capital controls, absence of free markets, overbearing government... African countries have many problems. Unfortunately, economic ignoramuses like you want the United States to become more like third world shitholes.

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2011, 06:59:22 AM »
Restrictive immigration policies, backwards capital controls, absence of free markets, overbearing government... African countries have many problems. Unfortunately, economic ignoramuses like you want the United States to become more like third world shitholes.

Actually quite the opposite. Which is why we don't want any immigration.

And the cannibalism, civil wars, famine, diseases and stench also contribute to the African continents problems.

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2011, 07:04:43 AM »
Actually quite the opposite. Which is why we don't want any immigration.

And the cannibalism, civil wars, famine, diseases and stench also contribute to the African continents problems.

Why famines, civil wars, and diseases so prevalent in Africa? Because their economy sucks. Why does their economy sucks? Because most African countries limit practically anything which could spur economic growth: immigration, flow of capital across borders, free trade, free markets domestically, etc.

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Re: Poll on Immigration Policy:
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2011, 07:11:05 AM »
Why famines, civil wars, and diseases so prevalent in Africa? Because their economy sucks. Why does their economy sucks? Because most African countries limit practically anything which could spur economic growth: immigration, flow of capital across borders, free trade, free markets domestically, etc.

Actually its because of the UN, foreign aid, illegitimate political systems and a barbaric, backward, tribal culture of corruption, rape and violence.

I would place the economy at the bottom of that list. If you lived under a repressive kleptocracy that butchers all voices of dissent and does not follow the rule of law, I think that the basic needs of survival are your primary concern-- not whether foreign investors want to spend money in your hellhole of a country. Outside of pillaging the natural resources, why would anyone want to set foot in Africa?