Benching for chest growth

[Hulkotron]

I bench and my chest is very very large.

[Mothballs]

Most pecs are torn off on the flat bench, a testament to the amount of tension and resistance it puts on the pec major. 

Other exercises are safer.... because they distribute the load more to other muscle groups.

Flat bench = dangerous but effective.

But isnt that due to bad form? And how bodybuilders bench...

[purenaturalstrength]

But isnt that due to bad form? And how bodybuilders bench...

that dave tate guy tore his pecs several times


ronnie never did

[QuakerOats]

that dave tate guy tore his pecs several times


ronnie never did

Tate used a hell of a lot more weight than Ronnie ever did.

[BILL ANVIL]

retard, when i meant to use machines/smith/cables it meant AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO SPECIFIC EXERCISES

FOR EXAMPLE SINCE YOU CANNOT USE YOUR BRAIN.

INSTEAD OF FREE WEIGHT BARBELL/DUMBBELL FLAT BENCH YOU CAN USE THE HAMMER STRENGTH FLAT
INSTEAD OF FREE WEIGHT BARBELL/DUMBBELL INCLINE BENCH YOU CAN USE THE HAMMER STRENGTH INCLINE

DO U UNDERSTAND  

some people make me wonder sometimes, like you all live in a dream world

when will u understand the type of training DOES NOT MATTER


at the end of the day if you have no drugs in your system you will remain the same and looking like shit no matter what type of training you do

90% DRUGS
5%   TRAINING
5%   FOOD

Then why did Ronnie and Arnold ect waste their time with freeweights dumfuck? Why didnt they switch to the easier less dangerous hammer strength ? 

[Mothballs]

that dave tate guy tore his pecs several times


ronnie never did

I think his were all before he trained with westside barbell. I might be wrong.

[QuakerOats]

I think his were all before he trained with westside barbell. I might be wrong.

you have to remember that Dave was at one point at least a mid 700's bencher, i dont care how perfect your "form" and setup is with that type of weight in your hands ANYTHING can happen.

[Mothballs]

you have to remember that Dave was at one point at least a mid 700's bencher, i dont care how perfect your "form" and setup is with that type of weight in your hands ANYTHING can happen.

very true.

but i think most of his tears were early in his powerlifting days. either way when your handling that much weight your right. its a crapshoot.

most bodybuilders are tearing pecs benching 315 to 405. totally different ballgame

[QuakerOats]

very true.

but i think most of his tears were early in his powerlifting days. either way when your handling that much weight your right. its a crapshoot.

most bodybuilders are tearing pecs benching 315 to 405. totally different ballgame

i saw a fairly well developed bb'er tear his on 225 pound smith machine inclines, it can happen anytime.

[purenaturalstrength]

what about james henderson, he benched 700+ drug tested raw bodybuilding style

did he ever tear a pec?

i really wonder

[QuakerOats]

what about james henderson, he benched 700+ drug tested raw bodybuilding style

did he ever tear a pec?

i really wonder

just depends on the person dude, James is and was a freak of nature as a presser, he was a born bencher if ive ever seen one.

[Benny B]

just depends on the person dude, James is and was a freak of nature as a presser, he was a born bencher if ive ever seen one.

[doriancutlerman]

you have to remember that Dave was at one point at least a mid 700's bencher, i dont care how perfect your "form" and setup is with that type of weight in your hands ANYTHING can happen.

You know, man ... I gave you some shit when you came back, but I know:

A.  It's "you"
B.  As always, even back in the day with all of the hard-core flaming, you knew your stuff.

Welcome back Dave.

[QuakerOats]

You know, man ... I gave you some shit when you came back, but I know:

A.  It's "you"
B.  As always, even back in the day with all of the hard-core flaming, you knew your stuff.

Welcome back Dave.

thanks man.

[d0nny2600]

thanks man.

Exactly. Regardless of shit talk on here QO always knew his stuff and could talk about this stuff with great knowledge. Welcome back big man

[QuakerOats]

Exactly. Regardless of shit talk on here QO always knew his stuff and could talk about this stuff with great knowledge. Welcome back big man

ditto.

[hangclean]

This thread is retarded.  It all depends on the individuals build.  Same as squats.  Short barrell chested fucks can bench and build huge chest (Alexey Lesukov is a perfect example). 

[g101]

Then why did Ronnie and Arnold ect waste their time with freeweights dumfuck? Why didnt they switch to the easier less dangerous hammer strength ?  

Perhaps maybe they liked the free weight better and felt it more   I wasn't there in front of them to ask then personally

you fucking moron, CHEST IS GENETIC I SEE PLENTY OF "HARDCORE BENCHERS" EVERY SINGLE DAY AND THEIR CHEST LACKS MEANWHILE THE MACHINE USERS HAVE 3X THE CHEST SIZE

AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU GET THE SAME RESULT, IS IT STIMULATION THAT COUNTS

get your glasses on..

STIMULATION

CASE CLOSED

[BILL ANVIL]

Perhaps maybe they liked the free weight better and felt it more   I wasn't there in front of them to ask then personally

you fucking moron, CHEST IS GENETIC I SEE PLENTY OF "HARDCORE BENCHERS" EVERY SINGLE DAY AND THEIR CHEST LACKS MEANWHILE THE MACHINE USERS HAVE 3X THE CHEST SIZE

AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU GET THE SAME RESULT, IS IT STIMULATION THAT COUNTS

get your glasses on..

STIMULATION

CASE CLOSED

I have horrible chest genetics and couldnt get them to grow until I benched heavy consistently for years, now my pecs are big stoopid little man! you need a better theory as to why Arnold and Ron would waste so much time and effort on the bench press for no reason at all. And chest size and depth are 2 different things, plenty of machine users have deep and defined pecs but lack chest girth the big benchers have more girth than the blah blah blah im done with your gh15 regurgitation shit cya.

[g101]

haha

so I guess squats , deadlift , barbell row are best too because arnold and ronnie used them too huh 

[BILL ANVIL]

haha

so I guess squats , deadlift , barbell row are best too because arnold and ronnie used them too huh 

Ron looked the way he did because of powerlifting, not because of the god damn hammer strength !   

Im through with this

[g101]

lol... you are an interesting character

[BILL ANVIL]

lol... you are an interesting character

wow im flattered, elf lol

[_bruce_]

Benching with good form is awesome - great feeling.

[Devon97]

f

Rob,

Good to see you're still strappin'!