Author Topic: Ron Paul Statistically Tied For First in Iowa (Read 2302 times)

howardroark · « **on:** December 14, 2011, 07:36:52 AM »

Ron Paul is one point behind Newt Gingrich in one of the latest Iowa polls, 21-22. I think this is big news: "Gingrich’s favorability rating has declined 19 points among Iowans since last week." That's BIG news and MAJOR trouble for Newt... if Ron Paul can keep this up, he could eek out a win in Iowa.

Anyway, here's the article: http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/13/in-iowa-paul-closes-to-within-one-point-of-front-runner-gingrich/#ixzz1gWX12vlm

240 is Back · « **Reply #1 on:** December 14, 2011, 07:42:18 AM »

"Gingrich’s favorability rating has declined 19 points among Iowans since last week"

hahahahahhahahhaah

I just shit my pants laughing, it's awesome, so warm and happy inside.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #2 on:** December 14, 2011, 07:56:34 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on December 14, 2011, 07:42:18 AM

"Gingrich’s favorability rating has declined 19 points among Iowans since last week"

hahahahahhahahhaah

I just shit my pants laughing, it's awesome, so warm and happy inside.

I sure hope newt fades fast. i dont trust him one bit.

240 is Back · « **Reply #3 on:** December 14, 2011, 08:02:24 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on December 14, 2011, 07:56:34 AM

I sure hope newt fades fast. i dont trust him one bit.

Down 1/5 in favorability - In a single week.

I can't even wrap my mind around that number.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #4 on:** December 14, 2011, 08:04:05 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on December 14, 2011, 08:02:24 AM

Down 1/5 in favorability - In a single week.

I can't even wrap my mind around that number.

Ron pauls' ads are really killing him.

Even on FR - there is a little change of heart I am seeing.

240 is Back · « **Reply #5 on:** December 14, 2011, 08:06:47 AM »

I'd seen some of the ads, and knew he had a huge ad buy. I guess Iowa voters are pretty saavy.

I can't wait to hear how the media will treat ron paul's win, if he can pull off 1st or 2nd in Iowa.

"A fluke! Voter suppression! Over-achieving!"

hahahahahahahha He's not in their pocket like the rest of them.

howardroark · « **Reply #6 on:** December 14, 2011, 08:32:12 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on December 14, 2011, 07:42:18 AM

"Gingrich’s favorability rating has declined 19 points among Iowans since last week"

hahahahahhahahhaah

I just shit my pants laughing, it's awesome, so warm and happy inside.

Amazing, isn't it? If Ron Paul can keep this up for for the next two weeks, he stands a chance of winning Iowa. The crazy thing is that Ron Paul doesn't even have to gain any votes in Iowa - all he has to do is divert the Gingrich vote toward anyone but Mitt Romney.

240 is Back · « **Reply #7 on:** December 14, 2011, 08:34:23 AM »

oh, if they're supporting gingrich, they ALREADY hate romney!

howardroark · « **Reply #8 on:** December 14, 2011, 05:27:39 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on December 14, 2011, 08:34:23 AM

oh, if they're supporting gingrich, they ALREADY hate romney!

Hopefully...

*bump*

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #9 on:** December 14, 2011, 05:39:34 PM »

Quote from: howardroark on December 14, 2011, 05:27:39 PM

Hopefully...

*bump*

It all started with the "serial hypocrisy" ad.

240 is Back · « **Reply #10 on:** December 14, 2011, 07:40:18 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on December 14, 2011, 05:39:34 PM

It all started with the "serial hypocrisy" ad.

I think it was also hearing newt talk for 2 weeks.

he's a pompous ass. people don't like that. This abrasive personality rubs many ppl the wrong way.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #11 on:** December 14, 2011, 07:47:49 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on December 14, 2011, 07:40:18 PM

I think it was also hearing newt talk for 2 weeks.

he's a pompous ass. people don't like that. This abrasive personality rubs many ppl the wrong way.

the other factor that scares the living shit out of me about newt is women voters.

When women hear Ron Paul has been married to the same woman for 5o years and delivered 4000 babies, they will rush to him.

240 is Back · « **Reply #12 on:** December 14, 2011, 07:55:02 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on December 14, 2011, 07:47:49 PM

the other factor that scares the living shit out of me about newt is women voters.

When women hear Ron Paul has been married to the same woman for 5o years and delivered 4000 babies, they will rush to him.

yeah, my wife and her sister were all concerned about the cain sexual allegations.

I'm like "who cares if they're lying - he's an incompetent dumbass and he handled the situation like shit and lied - those women just might be lying'.

They cared more about how he treated women. I had never considered that to be a factor.

And yes, against obama, who is the perfect family man, newt will lose women. If Obama was on his THIRD WIFE, oh you bet your pretty white ass it'd be brought up nonstop

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #13 on:** December 14, 2011, 07:58:56 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on December 14, 2011, 07:55:02 PM

yeah, my wife and her sister were all concerned about the cain sexual allegations.

I'm like "who cares if they're lying - he's an incompetent dumbass and he handled the situation like shit and lied - those women just might be lying'.

They cared more about how he treated women. I had never considered that to be a factor.

And yes, against obama, who is the perfect family man, newt will lose women. If Obama was on his THIRD WIFE, oh you bet your pretty white ass it'd be brought up nonstop

ron Paul or Bachmanm , even hints or Santorum, are the only ones I like. Perry, Romney, newt = yuck.

240 is Back · « **Reply #14 on:** December 14, 2011, 08:10:19 PM »

does FR still have the ban on supporting romney?

240 is Back · « **Reply #15 on:** December 14, 2011, 08:11:43 PM »

i used to dislike santorum like crazy. he's a little naive and a schoolbook, but he is a very safe thinker and would be a fine president.

Really anyone on the GOP side would do a fine job as president. Mitt would do a good job. Newt would probably do an evern better job. But it is about beating obama. Sadly, I think Mitt has a much stronger chance with soccer moms, with soccer dads, with people who dislike anger and rage.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #16 on:** December 14, 2011, 08:16:02 PM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on December 14, 2011, 08:10:19 PM

does FR still have the ban on supporting romney?

technically yes. But newt has now been beaten down a few pegs. Between Romney or newt I prefer Romney.

240 is Back · « **Reply #17 on:** December 15, 2011, 05:09:03 AM »

Quote from: 333386 on December 14, 2011, 08:16:02 PM

technically yes. But newt has now been beaten down a few pegs. Between Romney or newt I prefer Romney.

so without cain - who is their #1 there? who's #2? is it okay to praise ron paul?

James · « **Reply #18 on:** December 15, 2011, 06:57:03 AM »

Quote from: 240 is Back on December 14, 2011, 08:11:43 PM

i used to dislike santorum like crazy. he's a little naive and a schoolbook, but he is a very safe thinker and would be a fine president.

Really anyone on the GOP side would do a fine job as president. Mitt would do a good job. Newt would probably do an evern better job. But it is about beating obama. Sadly, I think Mitt has a much stronger chance with soccer moms, with soccer dads, with people who dislike anger and rage.

Someone please inform Ron that 240's account has been temporarily highjacked by a rational person.

howardroark · « **Reply #19 on:** December 15, 2011, 07:10:02 AM »

Quote from: James on December 15, 2011, 06:57:03 AM

Someone please inform Ron that 240's account has been temporarily highjacked by a rational person.

Please

There is nothing rational about supporting the current Republican field. Practically every candidate is a complete failure when it comes to foreign policy.

James · « **Reply #20 on:** December 15, 2011, 07:16:32 AM »

Quote from: howardroark on December 15, 2011, 07:10:02 AM

Please

There is nothing rational about supporting the current Republican field. Practically every candidate is a complete failure when it comes to foreign policy.

I supported Ron Paul in 08, and have done the same this time... but if and when he does not win the republican primary, I will not do as you by sitting in the corner pouting, instead I will vote for anyone that is going against Obama in the main election, as he is a tsunami of economic destruction, and as 240 wrote: any one of the republicans would be a step up.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #21 on:** December 15, 2011, 07:19:48 AM »

Quote from: James on December 15, 2011, 07:16:32 AM

I supported Ron Paul in 08, and have done the same this time... but if and when he does not get picked, I will not do as you by sitting in the corner pouting, instead I will vote for anyone that is going against Obama in the main election, as he is a tsunami of economic destruction, and as 240 wrote: any one of the republicans would be a step up.

obama is destroying this nation by the day. His decision alone on this Keyston Pipeline situation is madness.

He is like a slavemaster

howardroark · « **Reply #22 on:** December 15, 2011, 07:27:00 AM »

Quote from: James on December 15, 2011, 07:16:32 AM

I supported Ron Paul in 08, and have done the same this time... but if and when he does not win the republican primary, I will not do as you by sitting in the corner pouting, instead I will vote for anyone that is going against Obama in the main election, as he is a tsunami of economic destruction, and as 240 wrote: any one of the republicans would be a step up.

1) I won't pout in the corner. I'll vote for someone who won't destroy this country, probably for the Libertarian Party candidate.

2) Your vote doesn't matter anyway. The least you could do is sell it out to someone who doesn't represent your values.

3) Sure, the GOP would be a step-up, but a step-up from the bottom rung of Hell doesn't count for much, now does it?

James · « **Reply #23 on:** December 15, 2011, 07:34:07 AM »

Quote

I won't pout in the corner. I'll vote for someone who won't destroy this country, probably for the Libertarian Party candidate.

Obama thanks you! as your vote will be another vote towards leaving him in office for another 4 years (by splitting the anti-Obama vote)

howardroark · « **Reply #24 on:** December 15, 2011, 07:49:09 AM »

Quote from: James on December 15, 2011, 07:34:07 AM

Obama thanks you! as your vote will be another vote towards leaving him in office for another 4 years (by splitting the anti-Obama vote)

You do realize that you have a much, MUCH greater chance of dieing in a car crash on your way to the polls than you do of actually swinging the election, right?

Besides, Obama has become practically moot in the past few months and this has happened even though the Democrats control the White House and the Senate. If Republicans take back the Senate but not the White House, Obama will have no power. And at the very least, a split vote between the LP and the GOP will teach future GOP candidates to move toward the libertarian wing of the party.

Also, if a Mitt Romney or a Newt Gingrich is elected President, then the GOP is setting itself up to lose to another Obama in the next couple election cycles. Those are just the facts.

So by supporting anyone but Obama, you are in essence setting up this country for a continual cycle between terrible Presidents and bad Presidents.