Is it true Primobolan, Deca, anavar, and equipoise don't speed hair loss?

[purenaturalstrength]

In your opinion what is causes muscular hyperthropy? Is it an increased training load? And what do you think about this idea/theory that as one gets bigger and stronger then need to train less and rest more in order to continue to get ever bigger and stronger? (Which is basically Mentzer and AJ's idea/theory BTW)

basically you need to lift progressively heavier weights

dorian yates, mark dugdale also agree with mentzer and arthur jones on the idea that the heavier you lift the less sets you would do


i hate the "pump and pose" aka "milos approach" so goddamn hard, "wes" keeps claiming this is superior for muscle growth but all it does is blow recovery on light weights


could work if heavily juiced of course

[purenaturalstrength]

Yea 40 mg anavar ed + 100 mg primobolan eod can get you a beach body and very low sides...

thanks for the straightforward response friend

so is this weekly dosage or daily


and how long would you take it and how long should you take breaks in between?

[wes]

basically you need to lift progressively heavier weights

dorian yates, mark dugdale also agree with mentzer and arthur jones on the idea that the heavier you lift the less sets you would do


i hate the "pump and pose" aka "milos approach" so goddamn hard, "wes" keeps claiming this is superior for muscle growth but all it does is blow recovery on light weights


could work if heavily juiced of course

Just pyramid up in weight and do more sets and reps....I`m not saying you have to do Giant-Sets and things like that,and I`m cetrtainly not advising you to use light weight by any means,just more of a bodybuilding type regimen if you are at a platuae using 5 x 5.

Whatever you do,good luck.

[purenaturalstrength]

Just pyramid up in weight and do more sets and reps....I`m not saying you have to do Giant-Sets and things like that,and I`m cetrtainly not advising you to use light weight by any means,just more of a bodybuilding type regimen if you are at a platuae using 5 x 5.

Whatever you do,good luck.

my training is very similar to this http://madcow.hostzi.com/5x5_Program/Periodized_5x5.htm

but I alter small things which is in fact recommended

"This program has gotten results for 30 years and still continues to get excellent results from bodybuilders, strength athletes, or those looking for better performance.  It is a very good method of getting big and strong.  In addition, specific to bodybuilding it breaks a lot of the typical voodoo myths running around like “training a muscle 1x per week is required for recovery” or that “isolation work is required or one will develop all out of proportion” "

i like this i hate the bodybuild routines they're crap and i tried them

[wes]

I`ve used 5 x 5 in the past and it`s a great program for power,and you will/can obviously build muscle while using it,but you will grow stagnated as far as both power and hypertrophy are concerned in a pretty quick time period.

As I said,good luck sticking to a program that you seem dissatisfied with!

[purenaturalstrength]

I`ve used 5 x 5 in the past and it`s a great program for power,and you will/can obviously build muscle while using it,but you will grow stagnated as far as both power and hypertrophy are concerned in a pretty quick time period.

As I said,good luck sticking to a program that you seem dissatisfied with!

it's not the program's fault, it's lack of steroids

and still i achieved far far better results on this than the bodybuilding splits

deadlift increased from 190 to 220kg in about a year


squat i can't tell for sure, my one rep max in front squat with belt and knee sleeves used to be 155kg

now my best squat is 6x160kg

i dont front squat much but sometimes i try and i can rep out 140kg with relative ease (which i remember 3x3 140kg was only possible when i was in shape and with belt and knee sleeve)

now i dont use belt or knee sleeve ever


my best bench press used to be 5x90kg or so and now 5x115kg

[wes]

it's not the program's fault, it's lack of steroids

and still i achieved far far better results on this than the bodybuilding splits

deadlift increased from 190 to 220kg in about a year


squat i can't tell for sure, my one rep max in front squat with belt and knee sleeves used to be 155kg

now my best squat is 6x160kg

i dont front squat much but sometimes i try and i can rep out 140kg with relative ease (which i remember 3x3 140kg was only possible when i was in shape and with belt and knee sleeve)

now i dont use belt or knee sleeve ever


my best bench press used to be 5x90kg or so and now 5x115kg

Sounds like you`ve increased your strength.........just as I said a 5x5 program would do..............congrats on that, but how about muscle mass increase, or any cosmetic improvements like bigger pecs,striations,smaller waistline,etc. etc. 

[dj181]

it's not the program's fault, it's lack of steroids

and still i achieved far far better results on this than the bodybuilding splits

deadlift increased from 190 to 220kg in about a year


squat i can't tell for sure, my one rep max in front squat with belt and knee sleeves used to be 155kg

now my best squat is 6x160kg

i dont front squat much but sometimes i try and i can rep out 140kg with relative ease (which i remember 3x3 140kg was only possible when i was in shape and with belt and knee sleeve)

now i dont use belt or knee sleeve ever


my best bench press used to be 5x90kg or so and now 5x115kg

Why don't you try inserting extra rest days and see what happens? I talk with a certain dude here via PM's about training and what not, and he told me that he is now training legs every 14 days or so and his legs are getting bigger and stronger. And yes, this dude is a lifetime natty.

[wes]

Why don't you try inserting extra rest days and see what happens? I talk with a certain dude here via PM's about training and what not, and he told me that he is now training legs every 14 days or so and his legs are getting bigger and stronger. And yes, this dude is a lifetime natty.

Why not workout once a month

[purenaturalstrength]

Sounds like you`ve increased your strength.........just as I said a 5x5 program would do..............congrats on that, but how about muscle mass increase, or any cosmetic improvements like bigger pecs,striations,smaller waistline,etc. etc. 

you can't increase muscle mass without increasing hormone levels


stop with the fucking bro science you're pissing me off

[wes]

you can't increase muscle mass without increasing hormone levels


stop with the fucking bro science you're pissing me off

Then why train at all ?

Get on the juice and stop just dreaming about it.

You can always improve drugs or not,there`s no way your natural potential is maxed out for Christs sake.

[dj181]

Why not workout once a month

You know Dave Mass right? He is a HIT guy, so I'm curious what his thoughts are on this idea/theory that one must train less (ie. less volume and less often) in order to continue size and strength gains.

[ChevChelios]

Dude,stop thinking about special 5x5 routines,stupid routins,waka-maka routines,balonie routines.You need to trains basic,feel the damn muscled working,get serious pump,rest well and eat like an animal.Enough with this balonie routines,special programs made by gurus...

Yeap,40 mg anavar each day and 100 mg primo each other day,it won't give your arnold's physique,but you will get good gains past your natural condition.In other words you will give the impression of a good genetic guy,a pleasing psyhique.As for duration,run it for 3 months,see what have you gained,then you could think of other products.

[wes]

Dude,stop thinking about special 5x5 routines,stupid routins,waka-maka routines,balonie routines.You need to trains basic,feel the damn muscled working,get serious pump,rest well and eat like an animal.Enough with this balonie routines,special programs made by gurus...

Yeap,40 mg anavar each day and 100 mg primo each other day,it won't give your arnold's physique,but you will get good gains past your natural condition.In other words you will give the impression of a good genetic guy,a pleasing psyhique.As for duration,run it for 3 months,see what have you gained,then you could think of other products.

^^THIS^^

[breakmore]

At 100mg anavar ed for 7-8 weeks(ran that 3 times) i experienced hightened hair loss. (i am genetically inclined to lose hair i think, in the frontal area)

But not as much as on test for instance, when i started test at 500mg ew i experienced sick hair loss, coming out every morning under the shower. I started finastride again wich i previously stopped taking, it did stop the hair loss a lot, but only after multiple weeks.(i recommend starting finastride couple of weeks before the test cycle if you're inclined to hair loss)

The finastride stopped my hair loss but really made the small gyno i had on the left side more itchy and bigger. (thats why i stopped taking finastride it works on my gyno even without gear)

So i started topical solutions including the finastride and added 10mg of nolva eod wich works while i'm on now.

I am off cycle in about 3 weeks, then i will do pct, and stop finastride after that. (but continue to do topical shit i think, it isnt that a bother.)

As Bieber previously said you are fucked if you are genetically inclined to lose hair.

[purenaturalstrength]

Dude,stop thinking about special 5x5 routines,stupid routins,waka-maka routines,balonie routines.You need to trains basic,feel the damn muscled working,get serious pump,rest well and eat like an animal.Enough with this balonie routines,special programs made by gurus...

Yeap,40 mg anavar each day and 100 mg primo each other day,it won't give your arnold's physique,but you will get good gains past your natural condition.In other words you will give the impression of a good genetic guy,a pleasing psyhique.As for duration,run it for 3 months,see what have you gained,then you could think of other products.

well i always feel the right muscle working

on bench press i always feel the pecs on squats always the quads

so getting stronger in those basic exercises seems to make sense

thanks for the advice i think i will do this stuff if i can find a legit way to obtain it

[notsureifsrs]

Shit,I know a guy who was selling 100 D-Bols for 100 dollars and people were buying them.

Akrihin dbols have been sold here local for up to 1.5-2$ for pill...

[wes]

You know Dave Mass right? He is a HIT guy, so I'm curious what his thoughts are on this idea/theory that one must train less (ie. less volume and less often) in order to continue size and strength gains.

Dave is a personal friend of mine,but he originally built his size training on volume as did Mentzer.

I`m prett sure Dave would advise training less and with all out intensity,but Mentzers/Jones dogna hardly works for everyone and when it does work,it is usually a volume guy switching things up and progressing because he actually recuperted from his marathon type training by switching to HIT and allowing his body to rest up.

You have to find the line between doing too much and doing too little.

The more is better syndrome doesn`t work,nor does the train once in a blue moon type system,unless you are genetically superior.

[wes]

Akrihin dbols have been sold here local for up to 1.5-2$ for pill...

Crazy prices!!

[purenaturalstrength]

At 100mg anavar ed for 7-8 weeks(ran that 3 times) i experienced hightened hair loss. (i am genetically inclined to lose hair i think, in the frontal area)

But not as much as on test for instance, when i started test at 500mg ew i experienced sick hair loss, coming out every morning under the shower. I started finastride again wich i previously stopped taking, it did stop the hair loss a lot, but only after multiple weeks.(i recommend starting finastride couple of weeks before the test cycle if you're inclined to hair loss)

The finastride stopped my hair loss but really made the small gyno i had on the left side more itchy and bigger. (thats why i stopped taking finastride it works on my gyno even without gear)

So i started topical solutions including the finastride and added 10mg of nolva eod wich works while i'm on now.

I am off cycle in about 3 weeks, then i will do pct, and stop finastride after that. (but continue to do topical shit i think, it isnt that a bother.)

As Bieber previously said you are fucked if you are genetically inclined to lose hair.

i googled the topical spironolactone and a lot of guys claim it also causes gyno etc like finasteride

[breakmore]

i googled the topical spironolactone and a lot of guys claim it also causes gyno etc like finasteride

I am taking minoxidil i don't know if it's similar.

[purenaturalstrength]

I am taking minoxidil i don't know if it's similar.

no minoxidil is a vasodilator, spironolactone is a topical dht inhibitor

minoxidil doesnt really work i think but i still use it, cheap and risk free

[Vikingman]

about to start my first cycle-Im bald already-women love it-too bad Im married

[Van_Bilderass]

Akrihin dbols have been sold here local for up to 1.5-2$ for pill...

This stuff, or some of those fake bottles?




Akrihin, best steroid product ever! Probably because it was the first steroid I tried. 

[madg]

This stuff, or some of those fake bottles?




Akrihin, best steroid product ever! Probably because it was the first steroid I tried. 

1st picture is the bomb my fave dboll