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Running a second compound during cruise...
« on: December 17, 2011, 09:57:40 PM »
I am soon going to once again cruise for 4-6 weeks. I usually cruise @ 250 mg of sust, but this time around I am going to be doing 350 mg per week of strango sust (350 mg/ml) because I am just going to shoot 1 cc every monday and keep it simple.

My question is, does anybody ever run a second compound at a very low dose during a cruise? I have been thinking that theoretically, it might be beneficial to either take a 50 mg anadrol tab (I have plenty from strango) every day for that month, or run roughly 200-300 mg of tren ace during the cruise to keep my strength and lean muscle up. Are these crazy thoughts?

I know Rearden mentioned that he may or may not run a little bit of deca during his cruise (I read that on his log thread). This is what sparked the idea in my head. I know that conventional wisdom states that you should cruise on just testosterone, but can I get your opinions and experiences of running a bit of tren ace OR (not and) an anadrol 50 tab daily with my cruise dose of 350 mg per week.. Mind you this will only last 4-6 weeks max before I blast again for another 6 months or so on a gram of EQ, some test E and possibly a third compound (I have not fully thought out my next blast).

Also, I am on gh, 5 iu per day in case anybody wanted to know... I may up the dose to 8 iu during the cruise to maintain and possibly even grow some more.

What do you guys think of all of this?

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Re: Running a second compound during cruise...
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2011, 10:17:20 PM »
sure, but you have to realize at that point it's no longer a cruise, you know what i'm saying? that's a full dosage for someone's first cycle lol

i think the health risks of steroid usage are highly over-exaggerated, especially for orals. as long as your blood tests come back decent and your blood pressure stays low (having low blood pressure is probably the most important thing) then you aren't going to negatively impact your health in the long run.

don't let people scare-monger you. look at all the pros in the 70's through the 90's who used grams of gear a day and are still kicking. who will develop health problems as they age is more subjective than anything because there are people who will never touch drugs or alcohol in their life but still die of heart disease due to genetic predispositions. i wouldn't let the possibility of dying 50 years from now affect the quality of my life today and prevent me from my dreams and ambitions - but that's just me, some people out there rather live a meek life so that they can live into their 80s and own a sailboat or whatever the fuck.

anyways, i digressed too much. i wouldn't cruise on an oral, at least not a-bombs because those will make you pretty bloofy and they are still liver toxic to a certain degree. you can run anadrol for a long ass time at high dosages, much higher than most people think, without causing any serious damage to your liver but if you're just trying to cruise then i don't see the purpose of using an oral over simply pinning an extra CC of something like EQ with the sust?
i personally love tren, i'd cruise on that, and i do in fact, but not many people can handle tren sides. deca, eq and primo are other good choices for cruising. primo is probably the best bridge of them all but it's expensive as hell and for the money i'd just use tren-e or EQ.

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Re: Running a second compound during cruise...
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2011, 10:35:11 PM »
jhust stick with the HGH and up the dose. your going to burn out your androgen receptors and not gain too much next run. if you use a oral use something like anavar that isn't to harsh on the HPTA.

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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2011, 10:58:20 PM »
naw he won't burn out androgen receptors, they will actually upregulate the more AAS that are used. he won't gain the instant 20 pounds of water weight and glycogen in his muscles like if he were to cycle off completely and then go back into a blast, but that's not really real contest-level muscle mass anyways, just the kind of weight you get in a few weeks on d-bol or superdrol that is quickly lost after cessation. 

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Re: Running a second compound during cruise...
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2011, 12:41:30 AM »
Thank you guys for taking the time to reply.

White Widow- I agree with upping the GH during the cruise, probably to 8 iu. I am considering switching to pep's gh for my next big purchase, because it is cheaper, frankly. And it would be affordable to run up to 10 iu of his stuff, so after my kigs I might do that, but I will definitely up the iu to 8 during my cruise, and then reflect upon whether or not to lower them again to 5 or to remain at 8 once the blast resumes.

Aesthetics- You bring up a lot of good points. At some point this kind of "cruise" really does become another man's cycle. My issue is that I am at a point where I don't respond to small doses of AAS anymore, and due to  ignorance, I never understood the importance of GH. I listened to all these morons that told me that GH would do nothing for me, and I also was burned twice when I was young with fake blues (this left a bad taste in my mouth about GH, although obviously I was just bitter about getting burned). However, I did have a very positive experience with a run of 100 iu of serostim in my early 20s. However, I digress... I am very interested in how exactly you run tren as your cruise dose? Do you also run some test with it? I think I want to try this. I agree with you fully in theory that anadrol is too bloofy for the cruise. On the converse, running tren at a low dosage seems perfect for a cruise. I am not worried about getting "shut down". I am going to be shut down for life and I am a permanent HRT patient when I get older; in other words, I'm all in.

What does your cruise look like exactly, like what dose of tren do you take, and do you shoot ED, and who much test and what kind do you run with the tren (do you run test at all with it in your cruise?).

PS. After the cruise is done I plan to do a heavy EQ based cycle for 6 months or so (gram of EQ; test e dose not decided yet; possibly a third compound which I have not decided upon).

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Re: Running a second compound during cruise...
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2011, 03:29:13 AM »
u wont loose much on 350 a week,,, the whole point of a cruise is to give your self a break, even just a break from shooting all the time, so i dont realy see the need to add anything else as in the big picture it doesnt matter,, im talking gear wise not gh

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Re: Running a second compound during cruise...
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2011, 08:49:41 AM »
I am soon going to once again cruise for 4-6 weeks. I usually cruise @ 250 mg of sust, but this time around I am going to be doing 350 mg per week of strango sust (350 mg/ml) because I am just going to shoot 1 cc every monday and keep it simple.

My question is, does anybody ever run a second compound at a very low dose during a cruise? I have been thinking that theoretically, it might be beneficial to either take a 50 mg anadrol tab (I have plenty from strango) every day for that month, or run roughly 200-300 mg of tren ace during the cruise to keep my strength and lean muscle up. Are these crazy thoughts?

I know Rearden mentioned that he may or may not run a little bit of deca during his cruise (I read that on his log thread). This is what sparked the idea in my head. I know that conventional wisdom states that you should cruise on just testosterone, but can I get your opinions and experiences of running a bit of tren ace OR (not and) an anadrol 50 tab daily with my cruise dose of 350 mg per week.. Mind you this will only last 4-6 weeks max before I blast again for another 6 months or so on a gram of EQ, some test E and possibly a third compound (I have not fully thought out my next blast).

Also, I am on gh, 5 iu per day in case anybody wanted to know... I may up the dose to 8 iu during the cruise to maintain and possibly even grow some more.

What do you guys think of all of this?

lol reading this your cruise begins to sound more and more like a blast bro. :D

the whole point of a cruise is to give your self a break

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i wouldn't take any oral during a bridge bc they have a more pronounced negative effect on cholesterol than injectables (elevating ldl and reducing hdl simultaneously--unless of course, it's an injectable preparation of an oral steroid) plus they have the liver punch that injectables just don't pack.

my plan... 8), and this is my first bridge, is to shoot 250 mg of test enanthate a week and 100 mg tren ace eod (the latter via slin pin). that way i can also give myself a break from so many shots in the rump.

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Re: Running a second compound during cruise...
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2011, 10:18:20 AM »
lol reading this your cruise begins to sound more and more like a blast bro. :D

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i wouldn't take any oral during a bridge bc they have a more pronounced negative effect on cholesterol than injectables (elevating ldl and reducing hdl simultaneously--unless of course, it's an injectable preparation of an oral steroid) plus they have the liver punch that injectables just don't pack.

my plan... 8), and this is my first bridge, is to shoot 250 mg of test enanthate a week and 100 mg tren ace eod (the latter via slin pin). that way i can also give myself a break from so many shots in the rump.

Good, sound points... I slept on it, and realized that I really should just relax for a month on the 350 mg of sust e/w and then down the line, when I am 250 lbs + and lean, I can start messing with tren bridges etc, but for now, I think I can maintain my size for 4-6 weeks with 350 mg sust every week.

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Re: Running a second compound during cruise...
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2011, 11:51:34 AM »
sure, but you have to realize at that point it's no longer a cruise, you know what i'm saying? that's a full dosage for someone's first cycle lol

i think the health risks of steroid usage are highly over-exaggerated, especially for orals. as long as your blood tests come back decent and your blood pressure stays low (having low blood pressure is probably the most important thing) then you aren't going to negatively impact your health in the long run.

don't let people scare-monger you. look at all the pros in the 70's through the 90's who used grams of gear a day and are still kicking. who will develop health problems as they age is more subjective than anything because there are people who will never touch drugs or alcohol in their life but still die of heart disease due to genetic predispositions. i wouldn't let the possibility of dying 50 years from now affect the quality of my life today and prevent me from my dreams and ambitions - but that's just me, some people out there rather live a meek life so that they can live into their 80s and own a sailboat or whatever the fuck.

anyways, i digressed too much. i wouldn't cruise on an oral, at least not a-bombs because those will make you pretty bloofy and they are still liver toxic to a certain degree. you can run anadrol for a long ass time at high dosages, much higher than most people think, without causing any serious damage to your liver but if you're just trying to cruise then i don't see the purpose of using an oral over simply pinning an extra CC of something like EQ with the sust?
i personally love tren, i'd cruise on that, and i do in fact, but not many people can handle tren sides. deca, eq and primo are other good choices for cruising. primo is probably the best bridge of them all but it's expensive as hell and for the money i'd just use tren-e or EQ.
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you cruise on tren only? and on what dose?




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Re: Running a second compound during cruise...
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2011, 11:58:28 AM »
either its beneficial to take time off, or its not. 

if it is, then come off completely.

if its not, then keep your doseages as high as possible year round.

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Re: Running a second compound during cruise...
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2011, 12:29:10 PM »
either its beneficial to take time off, or its not.  

if it is, then come off completely.

if its not, then keep your doseages as high as possible year round.

That's a different way to look at it, I like that too.. So are you suggesting that instead of doing a 350 mg sust bridge of 4 weeks between 2 high dose blasts, that I should just go from one cycle of 1.5 grams of sust-deca-injectable dianabol, masteron  (current cycle) to my next cycle of a gram of EQ and an undecided amount of test (I can't decide on how much test to run... I would conventionally run roughly 750mg of test with the gram of EQ, but some of the experts on this site are really pushing low test, even as low as 250 mg a week.. I don't know if my dick would work.), with no bridge in-between?

This is what I like about this site specifically. It is devoid of the internet cliches that I hate so much (i.e. "whatever the length of your cycle plus pct is the time you should be OFF!"; "run MORE test than whatever your second compound is! Under all circumstances!"; "have your PCT and an AI and letrozole and a blend of horny goat weed mixed with GNC brand test booster at your disposal- actually ON YOUR PERSON- at all times BEFORE you start your cycle!; etc etc etc". All of these cliches always make me laugh, and they are the reason I can't go on sites like md, or to a much more sever extent, bb.com (those people are delusional, straight up). But I am on a tangent. I like that we think outside of the anabolic box here on get big, because eI don't believe that steroids are dangerous from a relative perspective of what is out there in this world, and the things that can kill you that you buy at the gas station or the duane reade counter with a piece of paper from a quack... So I am interested in all fresh opinions on how to run a good bridge, or whether or not a bridge is even desirable (I am never coming off again, either off GH or AS; the thought of life without test is outlandish- ALIEN even).

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Re: Running a second compound during cruise...
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2011, 03:14:31 PM »
either its beneficial to take time off, or its not. 

if it is, then come off completely.

if its not, then keep your doseages as high as possible year round.

i think bridging is an appropriate compromise really. on one hand, you want to come off for a while to allow your body to return to some kind of homeostasis (if health is a concern--and it should be for everyone!). and on the other hand, you don't want to loose everything you've gained. so... you bridge.

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Re: Running a second compound during cruise...
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2011, 03:22:12 PM »
Thank you guys for taking the time to reply.

White Widow- I agree with upping the GH during the cruise, probably to 8 iu. I am considering switching to pep's gh for my next big purchase, because it is cheaper, frankly. And it would be affordable to run up to 10 iu of his stuff, so after my kigs I might do that, but I will definitely up the iu to 8 during my cruise, and then reflect upon whether or not to lower them again to 5 or to remain at 8 once the blast resumes.

Aesthetics- You bring up a lot of good points. At some point this kind of "cruise" really does become another man's cycle. My issue is that I am at a point where I don't respond to small doses of AAS anymore, and due to  ignorance, I never understood the importance of GH. I listened to all these morons that told me that GH would do nothing for me, and I also was burned twice when I was young with fake blues (this left a bad taste in my mouth about GH, although obviously I was just bitter about getting burned). However, I did have a very positive experience with a run of 100 iu of serostim in my early 20s. However, I digress... I am very interested in how exactly you run tren as your cruise dose? Do you also run some test with it? I think I want to try this. I agree with you fully in theory that anadrol is too bloofy for the cruise. On the converse, running tren at a low dosage seems perfect for a cruise. I am not worried about getting "shut down". I am going to be shut down for life and I am a permanent HRT patient when I get older; in other words, I'm all in.

What does your cruise look like exactly, like what dose of tren do you take, and do you shoot ED, and who much test and what kind do you run with the tren (do you run test at all with it in your cruise?).

PS. After the cruise is done I plan to do a heavy EQ based cycle for 6 months or so (gram of EQ; test e dose not decided yet; possibly a third compound which I have not decided upon).

well, cruising isn't really that complex, i think you are over-analyzing it and over complicating the issue. i feel great on tren, and i like the effects it has so i prefer to run that over other compounds for HRT. since it's tren-a i dose ED or EOD, yeah, but i can understand if you want to take a break from pinning though, it can be tedious. if you wanted to cruise on tren then tren-e would be a more ideal.

my dosage is a lot higher than what a legitimate "cruise" or hrt dosage would be, i run about 200-300 a week, depending on how often i pin. with tren-a you can keep your blood levels pretty stable pinning EoD but for me i get a placebo effect when i pin ED so i prefer it that way (even though it probably doesn't make a meaningful difference). with a slin pin it isn't a hassle, just backload one and the oil actually flows easier and faster than through a 3cc syringe.

i don't run test anymore, i've effectively sworn off test and i don't think i'll ever run it again since no matter what i do on test it gives me worse hairloss than any other hormone while only giving 1/2 the gains. i use HCG pretty regularly, and it mimics the effects of LH, which will actually produce endogenous test and the subsequent conversion to estrogen, so that area is covered and i don't feel the need to run anything else during a cruise except tren + hcg. admittedly, i haven't been lifting very consistently or seriously lately, when i do lift it's been very sporadic but if i anticipate a real heavy workout, on the day prior i'll double my tren dosage and then on the day of lifting i'll run 50mg d-bol and 100mg var. since, at the moment i'm only lifting occasionally, it works pretty well to simply dose orals on the day i lift and then abstaining until the next time. that way i can reap a lot of the benefits from orals without as great of a negative impact on the liver.

anyways, ultimately, what dosages people should run is not a quantifiable answer that will apply to everyone. people will respond and react to steroids and dosages differently. there's no realistic way to use one person's steroid dosage and apply it to everyone with the expectation that it will produce the same results. best thing to do is just try different compounds, at different dosages and see how you feel and react. also, i don't think there is any need to run testosterone during a cruise because like i stated previously, HCG will yield estrogen if you were running a non-aromatising steroid for hrt.

few things i want to add:
my dick works perfectly fine when running just tren by itself
my libido actually goes down more from running high dosages of hgh due to the increase in prolactin
if you are going to run a gram of EQ or cruise on EQ bridged into a high dose of EQ, then try to eat a grapefruit a day as it will help keep your hematocrit levels down. my hematocrit was perfectly within range (slightly on the high side) when running over a gram of eq for a few months, but then again i don't know if it was due to the grapefruit or simply that i don't get high hematocrit levels from EQ. however, i know that grapefruit does help to keep hematocrit levels within normal range.

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Re: Running a second compound during cruise...
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2011, 08:53:46 PM »
That's a different way to look at it, I like that too.. So are you suggesting that instead of doing a 350 mg sust bridge of 4 weeks between 2 high dose blasts, that I should just go from one cycle of 1.5 grams of sust-deca-injectable dianabol, masteron  (current cycle) to my next cycle of a gram of EQ and an undecided amount of test (I can't decide on how much test to run... I would conventionally run roughly 750mg of test with the gram of EQ, but some of the experts on this site are really pushing low test, even as low as 250 mg a week.. I don't know if my dick would work.), with no bridge in-between?

This is what I like about this site specifically. It is devoid of the internet cliches that I hate so much (i.e. "whatever the length of your cycle plus pct is the time you should be OFF!"; "run MORE test than whatever your second compound is! Under all circumstances!"; "have your PCT and an AI and letrozole and a blend of horny goat weed mixed with GNC brand test booster at your disposal- actually ON YOUR PERSON- at all times BEFORE you start your cycle!; etc etc etc". All of these cliches always make me laugh, and they are the reason I can't go on sites like md, or to a much more sever extent, bb.com (those people are delusional, straight up). But I am on a tangent. I like that we think outside of the anabolic box here on get big, because eI don't believe that steroids are dangerous from a relative perspective of what is out there in this world, and the things that can kill you that you buy at the gas station or the duane reade counter with a piece of paper from a quack... So I am interested in all fresh opinions on how to run a good bridge, or whether or not a bridge is even desirable (I am never coming off again, either off GH or AS; the thought of life without test is outlandish- ALIEN even).


im saying that if you want to take time off, take time off.  if you want to stay on, stay on.

personally i like to use one compound at a time. so after a month or two i can just switch to a different compound.  insurance policy against hitting a platue.  i figure if your running mulitple compounds at once you really only have one choice to bust a platue and thats to increase the dose. and i think if your serious about this and been doing it for a while you should probably already be using a maximum dose anyways.

i dont know if taking time off is beneficial or not.  i just started doing it myself. so far, my only conlcusion is that it saves some money.  i run short esters for a while, then take a couple weeks off before switching to another compound. i lose like 10 lbs of water weight during those ocuple weeks, but gain it all back within a week or two of going back on. so i never really go backwards. i think it might be helping to "refresh my receptors" ...   although im not making a scientific statement here, im just saying i think the time off helps make me a bit more sensitive to the roids when i go back on. but its definitely nothing significant so far as i can tell.

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Re: Running a second compound during cruise...
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2011, 11:51:22 AM »
well, cruising isn't really that complex... *proceeds to type four paragraphs about it*

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Re: Running a second compound during cruise...
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2011, 11:03:49 AM »
either its beneficial to take time off, or its not. 

if it is, then come off completely.

if its not, then keep your doseages as high as possible year round.

thats a pretty good philosophy.. i always come off properly, usually switch compounds instead of bridging

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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2011, 11:13:24 AM »
thats a pretty good philosophy.. i always come off properly, usually switch compounds instead of bridging

for how long do you come off? and how much weight do you loose when you do?

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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2011, 11:33:18 AM »
i like a good 3 odd month off.... i'll go from a lean 18.7st down to a soft 17.7 st...dont look so different in clothes so its not so bad

i did take 2 n half year off and never went under 17st the whole time, was never that out of shape either.. i did have 5 yrs gear free before i took anything tho

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Re: Running a second compound during cruise...
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2011, 06:53:44 PM »
i took six months off and lost 40 lbs. i wont go off again for that reason.

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Re: Running a second compound during cruise...
« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2011, 08:19:01 PM »
Adding proviron at 25mg-50mg/day would work synergistically with your testosterone. Also, if I were you, I'd cut down on that test dose - maybe do 1/2 cc every fifth day. That would be MUCH closer to a TRT dose.

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Re: Running a second compound during cruise...
« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2011, 10:49:44 PM »
Personally, I can't come off of AS. Every single time I have tried it (and I have run the proper PCT baloney etc) I have lost 20 lbs by the end of the 2nd month. I don't lose an inordinate amount of strength, but the strength losses are formidable however- formidable enough for me to be seriously annoyed by them. Furthermore, my mental state goes into the gutter by the end of the 6th week off of everything.

Having said all of this, I have never tried to come off of AS while I am still running GH. This might prove to be imperative to coming off, at least for those of us that compete or are trying to get a pro card. One day perhaps I will try this.

I have maintained literally 99% of my gains in the past after going into a bridge of 4-8 weeks on as little as 200 mg of test. For this reason, I do not think it is accurate to say "you are either on or you are off". I think you can blast to make gains, and then cruise to keep them. Because I have never met a person in real life who does not lose a huge amount of mass and strength when they come off and run their "PCT" and then stay off for a couple months or longer. I have only heard about these accounts on the internet. And frankly, I attribute them to mob mentality. A lot of these boards are overrun by cliches; on most boards (not get big) half of the threads are cliche threads (i.e. What do you think of my PCT.. insert sticky on PCT; How long should I stay off of steroids after my 3 month cycle? Insert sticky on staying off steroids for the time you are on PLUS the time of your PCT; What do you guys think of my epic HALODROL cycle... etc etc etc). My point is that the mob mentality says that you can keep 99.99% of your gains IF you run the PCT listed in their sticky, and then eat the diet listed in their sticky, and follow the training they list in their sticky.

It is all bull shit. You begin to regress back to where your natural peak was as soon as you come off everything, and if you stay off for long enough, you wind up back at square one or possibly with the smallest amount of muscle and fat on top of it (and this only if you are spending $300 monthly on supplements and shit like that while off... this affords you that extra 5 pounds of creatine monohydrate water weight or whatever kind of supplements are at gnc now).

This brings me to my next point- when you go off for these 2 months, you go back to feeding into the supplement industry. You start buying your creatines and GNC brand test boosters and all that stuff, spending $300 dollars a month for what? That $300 could buy you 10 vials of the finest test. That $300 could go towards kits of pharm grade.

And my final point is how dangerous are steroids really? I would venture to say that cycling for 3 months, and then coming off for 3 months, and then cycling for 3 months, and then coming off for 3 months (repeat for X amount of years) is in fact more dangerous than blasting and cruising.

But then again we all have different goals. Mine are different from yours. I think that life is too short to live half of it as a mortal (i.e. cycling and then spending equal time off). And I am not convinced that I can't have my cake and eat it too (staying on forever while avoiding any seriously dangerous side effects.

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Re: Running a second compound during cruise...
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2011, 11:11:49 PM »
Why cruise?

Do you really think you can keep the gains that 1.5 to 2 grams of gear/week got you with 250mgs of sustanon?

Like someone else said. Either your on or your off.

Pick one.

When you get off your gonna get smaller but your gonna get smaller on 250mgs of test too.

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Re: Running a second compound during cruise...
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2011, 12:01:50 AM »
Why cruise?

Do you really think you can keep the gains that 1.5 to 2 grams of gear/week got you with 250mgs of sustanon?

Like someone else said. Either your on or your off.

Pick one.

When you get off your gonna get smaller but your gonna get smaller on 250mgs of test too.

Why cruise?

Because when I come OFF of all AS for 2 months I lose 10-20 lbs

When I run sust for @250 mg per week for 6-8 weeks between my blasts I lose not a single pound.

That is why I cruise. The question in the thread was about adding a 2nd compound at a very low dosage during my cruise, NOT about the validity of cruising or the converse, the benefits of coming off (which I would fervently argue against). That is a cliche thread that has been made a billion times on other boards. I understand that you are a proponent of coming off. I however am not at all one. The compromise I have realized is cruising- it gives my body a rest, but I get to keep all of my gains. I made this thread to get veteran's opinions on whether or not there is any benefit to running a SECOND compound during cruise, not the validity of cruising in general.

I am never off. That is an alien concept to me in fact; life without synthetic testosterone.

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Re: Running a second compound during cruise...
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2011, 07:12:41 PM »
Why cruise?

Because when I come OFF of all AS for 2 months I lose 10-20 lbs

When I run sust for @250 mg per week for 6-8 weeks between my blasts I lose not a single pound.

That is why I cruise. The question in the thread was about adding a 2nd compound at a very low dosage during my cruise, NOT about the validity of cruising or the converse, the benefits of coming off (which I would fervently argue against). That is a cliche thread that has been made a billion times on other boards. I understand that you are a proponent of coming off. I however am not at all one. The compromise I have realized is cruising- it gives my body a rest, but I get to keep all of my gains. I made this thread to get veteran's opinions on whether or not there is any benefit to running a SECOND compound during cruise, not the validity of cruising in general.

I am never off. That is an alien concept to me in fact; life without synthetic testosterone.


Well running two drugs isnt cruising anymore bro.

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Re: Running a second compound during cruise...
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2011, 09:48:14 PM »
bro. bro. bro.... bro.
anyway, im liking the cruise idea here. i go 8-10 weeks on my lifting routine with 2 weeks recovery workouts. im gonna do the 2 weeks soley on test prop in addition to my usual trt dose. then do npp for 6 weeks,tren for 4. maybe eq,maybe not. i like the short esters cuz it makes the cruise a real cruise since the drugs're out of my system quick.