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BY MALIA ZIMMERMAN - KAILUA, OAHU - The U.S. Secret Service has arrived, street barricades are in place, and the U.S. Coast Guard has stationed itself in the waters surrounding Kailua, Oahu. That is a sure sign President Barack Obama’s security team is preparing for the first family to arrive in the small beachside community as early as Friday night for what is expected to be a 17-day vacation.

The President and his family are traveling separately to Hawaii because he wants resolve the payroll tax cut issue before leaving Washington – and his wife does not want to wait.

But the advanced trip and the cost that comes with it – as much as $100,000 (flight and security) – adds to an already expensive vacation for the taxpayers.

Hawaii Reporter research shows the total cost for the President’s visit for taxpayers far exceeded $1.5 million in 2010 – but is even more costly this year because he extended his vacation by three days and the cost for Air Force One travel has jumped since last assessed in 2000. In addition, Hawaii Reporter was able to obtain more specifics about the executive expenditures.

The total cost (based on what is known) for the 17-day vacation roundtrip vacation to Hawaii for the President, his family and staff has climbed to more than $4 million. Here's why.
TRAVEL: $3,651,626

The biggest expense is President Barack Obama’s round trip flight to Hawaii via Air Force One, a cost the GAO office estimated at $1 million in the year 2000. Contacted today, the GAO confirmed there is no report the independent office affiliated with Congress has prepared since 2000 to operate Air Force One and Air Force Two.

However, the U.S. Air Force provides the most current numbers of $181,757 per flight hour. Travel time for Air Force One direct from Washington D.C. to Hawaii is about 9 hours or $1,635,813 each way for a total of $3,271,622 for the round trip to Hawaii and back.

The cost for USAF C-17 cargo aircraft that transports the Presidential limos, helicopters and other support equipment is not available to the public. However, the flight time between Andrews Air Force Base and Hawaii is at about 20 hours roundtrip, with estimated operating cost of $7,000 per hour (GAO report) for a total of $140,000 per roundtrip. The United States Marine Corps provides a presidential helicopter, along with pilots and support crews for the test flights, which travel on another C-17 flight at $140,000 for a total of $280,000.

Mrs. Obama’s early flight to Hawaii costs about $63,000 (White House Dossier), but add security and personnel for a total of about $100,000.

HOUSING: $151,200


Kailua Beach
The President and his family pay for their own beachfront rental (they are not staying in the Winter White House this year but rather a house on the same street further to the ocean point).

The Kailua rentals are fronted by the ocean and backed by a canal. So, the taxpayers must cover the costs for housing U.S. Secret Service, U.S. Coast Guard and Navy Seals in beach front and canal front homes in Kailua.

That costs about $1,200 a day ($200 allocated per bedroom per day). Since security arrives one day early, homes are rented for 18 days.

That is about $21,600 per home for approximately 7 houses rented at a total cost of $151,200 for security to stay nearby.

 

HOTEL: $72,216


Moana Surfrider Resort
The President’s staff and White House Press Corps stay at one of Hawaii’s oldest and most elegant hotels, the Moana Surfrider. Hawaii Reporter confirmed they are again staying there this year. Besides its stunningly beautiful view of Waikiki, and its traditional architecture, it is one of the most pricey hotels in the state.

Government rates are $177 per night, but that only is available during certain times a year.

Rooms typically start at $250 but can cost on average as much as $450 a night, and are even higher during the holidays.  A hotel spokesperson did not return calls to confirm the rate the White House received.


View of Waikiki Beach from the Moana Surfrider Hotel
A conservative estimate with rooms at the government rate of $177 per day (excluding a 9.25 percent Transient Accommodation Tax and a 4.712 percent General Excise Tax on each bill, meals, internet charges and other charges) means the taxpayers are covering more than $72,216 in hotel bills for an estimated 24 staff.

LOCAL TAXPAYER COSTS: $260,000

Local police over time for the president’s visit has historically cost Oahu taxpayers $250,000 but may be more expensive this year with the extended vacation.

The city ambulance the accompanies the president 24 hours a day through his entire visit is $10,000, according to city spokeswoman Louise Kim McCoy.

 

UNKNOWN COSTS

There are several costs the White House annually refuses to release, citing security.

■For example, the president’s security usually rents an entire floor of an office building in Kailua on the canal during the president’s stay.
■There are security upgrades and additional phone lines to several private homes where Obama and friends are staying. That includes bullet proof glass installed, home security systems disabled, new security measures put into place and additional phone lines added.
■There is the cost for car rentals and fuel for White House staff staying at Moana Hotel.
■And there are additional travel costs Secret Service and White House staff traveling ahead of the President.
The total cost (based on what is known) for a 17-day round trip vacation to Hawaii for the President and his family and staff and security is an estimated $4,135,038.
Hawaii Reporter annually has requested details on the cost of the President’s trip, but the White House will not release any figures, citing security concerns. A spokesperson has maintained the costs are "in line" with other presidential vacations.

Hawaii Reporter has sought to determine the cost of vacations for the current president and last two presidents but the Government Accountability Office was able to provide those costs and referred Hawaii Reporter back to the White House spokesperson.












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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2011, 08:40:46 AM »
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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2011, 09:08:50 AM »
How is this any different than any other POTUS?

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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2011, 09:10:39 AM »
How is this any different than any other POTUS?


Exactly - Obama is more of the same bullshit we are all sick to death of.   

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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2011, 09:15:07 AM »
How is this any different than any other POTUS?

Actually OB is the first president to ever take vacations.   :D

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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2011, 09:17:15 AM »
Actually OB is the first president to ever take vacations.   :D

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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2011, 09:22:34 AM »
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Yeah seriously.  That's why this thread is significant.  I wonder what Michelle said about it?

Presidents have historically never taken vacations.

I even bet Newt, batshit crazy Bachman, and that retard Perry will all promise no vacations if elected along with addressing illegal immigration.

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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2011, 09:24:54 AM »
Yeah seriously.  That's why this thread is significant.  I wonder what Michelle said about it?

Presidents have historically never taken vacations.

Seriously - you obama voters are the most clueless fucking idiots I think I have ever encountered.   

But its all good - just like you clowns were so utterly clueless and out of touch leading up to the 2010 mid terms, when this disgraceful grifter and his thug of a wife get sent packing back to Kenya - we can then go over the reasons why. 


 

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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2011, 09:25:50 AM »

Exactly - Obama is more of the same bullshit we are all sick to death of.   

speak for yourself nut job

every POTUS goes on vacations and they all work during vacation too

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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2011, 09:27:11 AM »
Seriously - you obama voters are the most clueless fucking idiots I think I have ever encountered.   

But its all good - just like you clowns were so utterly clueless and out of touch leading up to the 2010 mid terms, when this disgraceful grifter and his thug of a wife get sent packing back to Kenya - we can then go over the reasons why. 


 

Why change the subject?

Presidents never go on vacations, you have a good point here.   Geez if it wasn't for you no one get it.

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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2011, 09:27:43 AM »
Why change the subject?

Presidents never go on vacations, you have a good point here.   Geez if it wasn't for you no one get it.

Bump for the vacation police.

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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2011, 09:31:17 AM »
speak for yourself nut job

every POTUS goes on vacations and they all work during vacation too

LOL - tell me exactly what he is working on?  Even Democrat Senators say he is not doing a god damned thing.   

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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2011, 09:32:27 AM »
LOL - tell me exactly what he is working on?  Even Democrat Senators say he is not doing a god damned thing.   

Don't argue that.  It's too close too the subject. 

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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2011, 09:39:28 AM »
Bump for the vacation police.

Again  - to the cry baby who screams moral superiority and the high road - do you think it is a coincidence that both parties refuse to work with obama any more on anything?   He has lost all credibility on every issue and has set trhe narrative of being a hypocritical out of touch liar who says one thing and does the opposite.  

1.   Called for renewal of AWB - but that wont happens with F&F   -  ZERO CREDIBILITY ON GUN ISSUE

2.  Says Eric Holder is doing a good job and cracking down on cartels - but we find out Thugbama is actually arming the cartels and laundering their cash all while cracking down on legal dispenseries.   ZERO CREDIBILITY ON CRACKING DOWN ON DRUG ISSUES OR CARTELS.  

3.  Says all parties have to sacrifice  - yet he never sacrifices anything at all and spits in the face of the taxapayer when we are a 15 Trillion in the hole.    - ZERO CREDIBILITY ON SPENDING AND USE OF TAX DOLLARS

4.   Says he is for jobs yet shuts down a shovel ready bi-partisan project Canada has been begging for for 3 years.  ZERO CREDIBILITY ON JOBS

5.  Said obamaCare was going to reduce premiums by 2500 a year and was against the mandate - now we find out Obnamacare is spiking premiuims and is making matters worse  -ZERO CREDIBILITY ON HEALTH CARE  

6.  Says the rich should pay more taxes - yet he has geithner as TS, Corzine as his top bundler, and the CEO of GE as his supposed jobs advisor - ZERO CREDIBILITY  

7.  Says he wants to change the tone of political dialogue - yet calls people bitter clingers, hostage takers, traitors, etc.  - ZERO CREDIBILITY  





you want more?     Do you fools still not understand why only 40% of the people claim to support this asshole and of that most are blacks and other minorities or govt workers w a vested interest in keeping this shit show going?          

 

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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2011, 09:47:29 AM »
Again  - to the cry baby who screams moral superiority and the high road - do you think it is a coincidence that both parties refuse to work with obama any more on anything?   He has lost all credibility on every issue and has set trhe narrative of being a hypocritical out of touch liar who says one thing and does the opposite.  

1.   Called for renewal of AWB - but that wont happens with F&F   -  ZERO CREDIBILITY ON GUN ISSUE

2.  Says Eric Holder is doing a good job and cracking down on cartels - but we find out Thugbama is actually arming the cartels and laundering their cash all while cracking down on legal dispenseries.   ZERO CREDIBILITY ON CRACKING DOWN ON DRUG ISSUES OR CARTELS.  

3.  Says all parties have to sacrifice  - yet he never sacrifices anything at all and spits in the face of the taxapayer when we are a 15 Trillion in the hole.    - ZERO CREDIBILITY ON SPENDING AND USE OF TAX DOLLARS

4.   Says he is for jobs yet shuts down a shovel ready bi-partisan project Canada has been begging for for 3 years.  ZERO CREDIBILITY ON JOBS

5.  Said obamaCare was going to reduce premiums by 2500 a year and was against the mandate - now we find out Obnamacare is spiking premiuims and is making matters worse  -ZERO CREDIBILITY ON HEALTH CARE  

6.  Says the rich should pay more taxes - yet he has geithner as TS, Corzine as his top bundler, and the CEO of GE as his supposed jobs advisor - ZERO CREDIBILITY  

7.  Says he wants to change the tone of political dialogue - yet calls people bitter clingers, hostage takers, traitors, etc.  - ZERO CREDIBILITY  


you want more?     Do you fools still not understand why only 40% of the people claim to support this asshole and of that most are blacks and other minorities or govt workers w a vested interest in keeping this shit show going?          

 


why are you changing the subject and bringing all these things up?

What are you making your self look like a petty obsessed fool by changing the subject WHEN YOU
DON'T NEED TO?

You have a solid legitimate gripe worthy of investigation, criticism and possibly impeachment here.

PRESIDENTS NEVER TAKE VACATIONS!

Shall we march on DC now?

Will you lead us?

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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2011, 09:47:48 AM »
LOL - tell me exactly what he is working on?  Even Democrat Senators say he is not doing a god damned thing.   

how would I know exactly what he working on when he's at the White House, much less anywhere else

do you think his job just stops because he takes a vacation with his kids

seriously man, your 24/7 obsession with this man is a mental illness

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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2011, 09:48:54 AM »
how would I know exactly what he working on when he's at the White House, much less anywhere else

do you think his job just stops because he takes a vacation with his kids

seriously man, your 24/7 obsession with this man is a mental illness

Everyone knows he's playing x-box and drinking malt beet.  Com on Straw, you've known all along. 

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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2011, 09:53:27 AM »
Everyone knows he's playing x-box and drinking malt beet.  Com on Straw, you've known all along. 

smoking blunts too

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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2011, 09:53:58 AM »
Everyone knows he's playing x-box and drinking malt beet.  Com on Straw, you've known all along. 

Actually - from what i read - he doesnt do much but hang out , drink, watch ESPN, and never works past 4:30  

If he needs to take such long vacations - he should either:  

1.  Resign or

2.  Not run for a second term



Remind me again why we have no budget?   So his vacations are more important than even passing a budget and you are perfectly ok with that?  Is that what you are saying?  

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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2011, 09:58:13 AM »
Actually - from what i read - he doesnt do much but hang out , drink, watch ESPN, and never works past 4:30  

If he needs to take such long vacations - he should either:  

1.  Resign or

2.  Not run for a second term



Remind me again why we have no budget?   So his vacations are more important than even passing a budget and you are perfectly ok with that?  Is that what you are saying?  


when you say you "read" something I assume you mean you "imagined it"

we all know that's what happens when you see something in a video so I assume it's the same when you "read" something

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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2011, 09:58:34 AM »


You should smoke one it would do you some good

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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2011, 10:01:58 AM »
You should smoke one it would do you some good

or even better, he could get back on his antipsychotic meds (no joke 333 - you really should seek some medical help)

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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2011, 10:03:05 AM »
You should smoke one it would do you some good


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whatever - you morons who voted for this asshole still cant explain why he is at 41% at gallup.   I guess its those evil 1% who watch fox right?    

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Re: Obama's 17 Day vacation to cost taxpayers approximately $4,135,000
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With thousands of families struggling to raise funds for Christmas, you would think the Obamas might manage a little thriftiness.

But last night, Michelle Obama and her two daughters flew to Hawaii for a 17-day holiday - days before the president joins them.

The separate flights will incur costs of more than $100,000 to the taxpayer.

 Vacation: The President was scheduled to begin his trip on December 17 - but his family will leave without him. Last year's trip to Hawaii, pictured, was also delayed

Obama has vowed to stay in Washington until Congress passes an extension of the payroll tax cut and will join his family before Christmas.

By not waiting for Congress to reach a decision before jetting off together, the family is inflicting eye-watering costs on the taxpayer.

 More...Congress set to push through Obama tax cut extension to give families earning $50,000 a year an extra $1,000

From the First Family to yours: Obamas release their first Christmas card in two years

When Michelle flew to Hawaii alone last year, it cost a staggering $63,000 - without security or staff costs - according to White House Dossier website.
Michelle, 13-year-old Malia and 10-year-old Sasha will leave Washington Friday after giving toys to the Marines Corps’ Toys for Tots programme.

 Time apart: Michelle Obama and her daughters, Sasha (right) and Malia, pictured on the family's Christmas card, will have their flights paid for by the taxpayer

Barack Obama previously said to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid: 'Michelle and the girls are going to have a great time in Hawaii. They don't need me there.'
The president's family covers the cost of a private beach front residence in Kailua, Oahu, for the vacation - a ‘Winter White House’ that costs up to $3,500 a day, or $75,000 a month.
But the local and federal taxpayers help pay the bill for travel and security.
Last year the trip cost more than $1 million, according to the Hawaii Reporter.
The move also puts the president at odds with one of his own executive orders that instructed agencies to avoid unnecessary flights, said the site.
Republicans, including presidential candidate Mitt Romney, have criticised Mr Obama's holiday plans, which were originally scheduled to begin on December 17 for 17 days.
 Commitment: Obama will miss the start of the annual holiday to his birthplace in order to fix the budget crisis. It is unknown when he will be able to join the family


 Luxury: The family will travel by Air Force One, pictured, which costs $180,000 per hour - or around $1,000,000 for a return trip from Washington to Hawaii
'I just think it's time to have a president whose idea of being 'hands on' doesn't mean getting a better grip on the golf club,' Mr Romney told voters in Iowa.
'I just think it's time to have a president whose idea of being 'hands on' doesn't mean getting a better grip on the golf club'Republican presidential candidate, Mitt Romney
Last year's holiday was similarly delayed, but the Obamas added a few extra days to the end to make up for the inconvenience.
The president, who was raised in Hawaii until he was six, previously announced there were no public events scheduled for the trip.

Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin said the president didn't want lawmakers to leave town without reaching an agreement on the extension.
'What the president made clear was that the House would leave at its peril, its political peril, and they will face the embarrassment of trying to explain why they're taking the holiday off while working families across America are going to see their taxes increase,' he said, according to Politico.
 A job to do: Speaking in Washington on Thursday, President Obama proposed new minimum wage and overtime protections for in-home care workers

President Obama told lawmakers this week they could not leave for family trips until decisions have been reached.
'Congress should not and cannot go on vacation before they have made sure that working families aren't seeing their taxes go up by a thousand dollars,' he said.
A White House official said that the president and the Republicans could 'all spend Christmas here together' if Congress didn't act.
It comes following the President's proposals on Thursday to establish minimum wage and overtime pay for in home care workers.
Obama, speaking at the White House, said the workers are often paid less than the minimum wage, even when working 70 hours a week.
'That’s just wrong,' he said. 'They deserve to be treated fairly. They deserve to be paid fairly for a service that many older Americans couldn’t live without.'
FIRST LADY OF LUXURY TRAVEL: THE COSTLY TRIPS
SPAIN: AUGUST 2010

Michelle Obama and 40 of her friends paid for personal expenses, such as hotels and meals themselves.
But the U.S. taxpayer would have paid for the 68-strong security detail, personal staff and use of presidential jet Air Force Two.
Payment for the secret service team ran at around $281 each - nearly $98,000 for the duration of the summer break.

Use of Air Force Two comes in at $149,900 for the round trip, not including time on the ground.

Mrs Obama's personal staff, of which there were an unknown number, should also be taken into account.

HAWAII: DECEMBER 2010

According to the Hawaii Reporter, the bill for the trip included:

$63,000 on an early flight bringing Mrs Obama and the children to Hawaii ahead of the President
$1,000,000 on Mr Obama’s return trip from Washington on Air Force One
$16,000 to rent nearby homes for Secret Service and Navy Seals
$134,000 for 24 White House staff to stay at the Moana Hotel
$251,000 in police overtime
$10,000 for an ambulance to be on hand at all times

SKI TRIP TO VAIL: FEBRUARY 2011

Michelle Obama and her daughters stayed at the Sebastian hotel on Vail Mountain, where rooms cost more than $2,400 for multi-bedroom suites.
The family appear to have flown there on Air Force Two.
They were escorted to the resort by about a dozen vehicles, including 15 state and local law enforcement officers.
MARTHA'S VINEYARD: AUGUST 2011

The Blue Heron Farm estate, where the Obama family stayed, rents for about $50,000 a week.
Michelle, Sasha and Malia Obama flew to the estate just hours before the president to make the most of the holiday - again, incurring extra flight costs.

According to U.S. News and World Report, the Coast Guard was required to keep ships floating near the property. The presidential helicopter and jet remain at the ready and security agents will be on 24-hour duty.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2075066/Obama-family-jet-Hawaii-separately-cost-100-000-taxpayer.html#ixzz1guXILuft