Author Topic: Ron Harris - any guy can be Mr. O and other quotes! (Read 24631 times)

WillGrant · « **on:** December 19, 2011, 11:52:07 PM »

Quote from: Ron Harris;2879206

William, don't waste your time. There are legions of guys out there who have been told (usually by drug dealers or ug juice makers) that genetics don't matter one bit. With enough of the right stuff, ANY guy can be Mr. Olympia!

There was never a chance this thread wouldn't be polluted, sadly. It was and still is a great idea.

Quote from: '[N1ZMO

;2880654']Utter bullshit - of course the cream of the crop rises to the top but to become a pro all it takes is semi decent genetics and lots of drugs, will you be a top 10 at the O - hell no but you can turn pro, look at the state of some of the guys that have been given pro cards over the last 5 - 10 years , it's a joke - Todds not included in that as he actualy does have decent shape and good genetics - his type of physique is what BB is all about or should be about - dont ruin it Todd

Quote from: Ron Harris;2880705

Sorry, 'semi decent genetics' are not enough. Until you have been to a lot of national-level shows you don't really understand the different levels of genetics out there even among them.

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #1 on:** December 19, 2011, 11:55:51 PM »

People overestimate genetics in fucking everything, because most people are losers.

gh15 · « **Reply #2 on:** December 20, 2011, 12:00:20 AM »

this fella is crazy ,, he is serious serious mentaly disturbed

gh15 approved

Schmoe Buster · « **Reply #3 on:** December 20, 2011, 01:29:44 AM »

Quote from: #1 Klaus fan on December 19, 2011, 11:55:51 PM

People overestimate genetics in fucking everything, because most people are losers.

^^this^^

its an excuse used by those that quit

Secret Stack · « **Reply #4 on:** December 20, 2011, 02:22:28 AM »

a couple of days ago...

Quote from: Ron Harris;2879014

Yes, I have been on Androgel for over two years now. I do 4 pumps a day, which delivers 5 mg of test. I get it right at Costco pharmacy.

Quote from: Ron Harris;2879202

Just the gel, my doctor doesn't believe in shots. His only options are gel or pellet implants. I tried those, and they worked their way out of my glute!

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Quote from: Ron Harris;2879071

Anyone in the USA talking openly online about using steroids is a moron.

Schmoe Buster · « **Reply #5 on:** December 20, 2011, 02:24:24 AM »

Quote from: Secret Stack on December 20, 2011, 02:22:28 AM

a couple of days ago...

....

So scumbag Heris gets implanted in the ass

gh15 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 20, 2011, 02:25:14 AM »

Quote from: Secret Stack on December 20, 2011, 02:22:28 AM

a couple of days ago...

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this is simply unbelivble,, i cant blive to what i read,, androgel lol creams lol ,, who is this fruitloup and how did he get job as writer for bodybuild? this is just beyond lies,, it is spiting in your faces and laughing in you

gh15 approved

_bruce_ · « **Reply #7 on:** December 20, 2011, 02:36:09 AM »

Quote from: #1 Klaus fan on December 19, 2011, 11:55:51 PM

People overestimate genetics in fucking everything, because most people are losers.

Agree, most of us are mediocre and there's chances to better yourself. The cream of the crop is nonetheless in another league.

Dr Dutch · « **Reply #8 on:** December 20, 2011, 02:38:26 AM »

Quote from: Schmoe Buster on December 20, 2011, 02:24:24 AM

So scumbag Heris gets implanted in the ass

Bet he liked it too....

Secret Stack · « **Reply #9 on:** December 20, 2011, 02:40:15 AM »

his wife won't let him "use" anymore

Quote from: Ron Harris;2878312

my wife, won't let me anymore.

#1 Klaus fan · « **Reply #10 on:** December 20, 2011, 03:12:03 AM »

Quote from: Schmoe Buster on December 20, 2011, 01:29:44 AM

^^this^^

its an excuse used by those that quit

One of the most ridiculous things was that the few band members in the Beatles were supposed to have had the genetics for writing great pop songs and that made them a great band.

I wonder if researchers have already found that mysterious gene...

Voland · « **Reply #11 on:** December 20, 2011, 04:25:21 AM »

Quote from: Secret Stack on December 20, 2011, 02:40:15 AM

his wife won't let him "use" anymore

All that cream definitely shrunk his nuts.

greeneyes · « **Reply #12 on:** December 20, 2011, 04:55:12 AM »

I agree with Ron here
I know people who can't turn pro with tons of drug , they are fucking skinny and more narrow than heath (atleast heath can care muscle ), not fit at all and don't forget the kind of nerd who is fat and 5"6
genetics do alot , i've been born with big calve and impressive shape and muscle quality for a 4yo boy , not narrow .. some friend of mine are just strong and have biceps at 12 without training can push ups alot and run very fast , all this count and it's genetic , genetic is very important to get physique in a olympia level.
My grandpa near 90 and have no blood pressure , no health problem and my father 62 been smoking since 15 and no shit happened to him. Due to the fact of similiarity of me and my father I can be sure that a can afford heavy cycle without BIG health problems ....

WillGrant · « **Reply #13 on:** December 20, 2011, 05:06:08 AM »

Quote from: greeneyes on December 20, 2011, 04:55:12 AM

I agree with Ron here
I know people who can't turn pro with tons of drug , they are fucking skinny and more narrow than heath (atleast heath can care muscle ), not fit at all and don't forget the kind of nerd who is fat and 5"6
genetics do alot , i've been born with big calve and impressive shape and muscle quality for a 4yo boy , not narrow .. some friend of mine are just strong and have biceps at 12 without training can push ups alot and run very fast , all this count and it's genetic , genetic is very important to get physique in a olympia level.
My grandpa near 90 and have no blood pressure , no health problem and my father 62 been smoking since 15 and no shit happened to him. Due to the fact of similiarity of me and my father I can be sure that a can afford heavy cycle without BIG health problems ....

Thats not the point here - he is saying its all genetics to turn pro when its not - genetics matter most when it comes to the top guys , but theres guys out there who get there pro cards never to be heard of again basicly because they do not have the genetics to advance further in the pro ranks - turning pro is all drugs

greeneyes · « **Reply #14 on:** December 20, 2011, 05:10:17 AM »

In that case , yes , even if you have a monster genetics without good drugs you'll never look big and ripped both , you can only choose one

NotMrAverage · « **Reply #15 on:** December 20, 2011, 05:14:38 AM »

Most bb have quite poor genetics to begin with, thats why we go to the gym - to get bigger because we where small to begin with, Then there are those guys who have been forced by someone else to train because they are big by nature, but they usually lack what it takes mentally. They don´t see the point or have the drive. For the most part... The most important genetics are how you respond to drugs... I knew one short fella 5.3 or whatever and he won 2 shows with almost no gear, his response was awesome, would gain like hell on low doses. But he was already tired of it and stopped at 20.

Super Natural · « **Reply #16 on:** December 20, 2011, 05:37:02 AM »

I thought he had gone clean... wonder why he's using test cream now? Was he not able to recover his natural test after all those years of use. What's he 45? That's not that old.

That’s the one thing that puts me off using. Will I ever recover my natural test to its prior level afterwards...or will you have to be using HRT for the rest of your life to feel normal...clearly not. This competitor I know told me that 4 months after stopping his cycle and doing PCT his test is still rock bottom.

Does anyone know of someone who has genuinely gone clean (no HRT) after years of competitive use and made a full recovery?

david94 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 20, 2011, 06:04:25 AM »

The current pro level is very poor especialy in USA. Now, cause of the lack of talents, people who were not first in their category just need to wait for the next year to get their pro card. That's why Steve Kucklo just needed to wait after Cedric and Jason had their pro card and that's why a shit like keith william will have his pro card one day like Todd Jewell did.

Getting a pro card means nothing today, it's just being intelligent and wining the right show or sucking the right cock like Heinz senior or other shits like ken jones.
The real level is in Asia now, but they don't get 1000 pro cards for each category at every show.

njflex · « **Reply #18 on:** December 20, 2011, 07:23:48 AM »

Quote from: david94 on December 20, 2011, 06:04:25 AM

The current pro level is very poor especialy in USA. Now, cause of the lack of talents, people who were not first in their category just need to wait for the next year to get their pro card. That's why Steve Kucklo just needed to wait after Cedric and Jason had their pro card and that's why a shit like keith william will have his pro card one day like Todd Jewell did.

Getting a pro card means nothing today, it's just being intelligent and wining the right show or sucking the right cock like Heinz senior or other shits like ken jones.
The real level is in Asia now, but they don't get 1000 pro cards for each category at every show.

i'm not saying bbing is dead but the golden days of the top crop bbers in the 90's is over,,,when guys like kev,flex,yates,prime coleman came to guest pose the crowd was pumped and loud to see these guys,,who were big off cycles with real muscle .today there are some good amateurs still but back 15 or so yrs ago the usa,nationals had packed classes with future pro's in every top 10 weight class.

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #19 on:** December 20, 2011, 08:22:19 AM »

It's the bodybuilding industry. I don't take what anyone says seriously.

gh15 · « **Reply #20 on:** December 20, 2011, 09:04:34 AM »

Quote from: Super Natural on December 20, 2011, 05:37:02 AM

I thought he had gone clean... wonder why he's using test cream now? Was he not able to recover his natural test after all those years of use. What's he 45? That's not that old.

That’s the one thing that puts me off using. Will I ever recover my natural test to its prior level afterwards...or will you have to be using HRT for the rest of your life to feel normal...clearly not. This competitor I know told me that 4 months after stopping his cycle and doing PCT his test is still rock bottom.

Does anyone know of someone who has genuinely gone clean (no HRT) after years of competitive use and made a full recovery?

who go clean? who go cream??? WHAT AREW YOU FUCKIN RETARDS? FELLA IS ADDICTED TO HORMONES,, there is nothintg he is not! on ,, he is on everything in the book ,, that filt son of a bitch disgrace to jews is on injectable products not creams ,, for god sakes dont sound liek 10

gh15 approved

mass243 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 20, 2011, 09:07:52 AM »

Genetics are everything!!!

gh15 · « **Reply #22 on:** December 20, 2011, 09:12:54 AM »

Quote from: mass243 on December 20, 2011, 09:07:52 AM

Genetics are everything!!!

genetic is nothing,, if geentic was anything you would hav enow day as many profesionals as back in early 70s...much much few than we have now day...why do we hav enow day every joe shmoe holding pro card? BECAUSE HUMAN GROWTH HORMONE IS AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE,, the smart ones just stay on it....eat whatever they want alwys get leaner....and just grow into profesional level,,

very very simple...

will they be top 3 in the world? for this you need the genetic respond to be superb ,,

genetic persay has nothnig to do with it,, bdybuild genetics SUCK

gh15 approved

mass243 · « **Reply #23 on:** December 20, 2011, 09:22:38 AM »

I strongly disagree of course.

without awesome genetics, no one runs 100m in under 10 seconds.
without superb genetics no one becomes mr olympia - many can become pro, no doubt but no amount of drugs changes muscle shape, proportions etc.
without world class genetics, no one becomes nobel prize winner in physics.
without right genetics no one becomes president (I'm talkin' 'bout real presidents, not some zamboa president)

with proper genetics, you never get cancer no matter what you do.
with wrong genetics, you get cancer no matter how "well" you live.

It's all in our genes when we born. That determines what we can become. Of course training, countless repetitions can make us good at something but that alone never makes us awesome and best in the world in something. Right genetics are required for that.

greeneyes · « **Reply #24 on:** December 20, 2011, 09:26:05 AM »

Quote from: mass243 on December 20, 2011, 09:22:38 AM

I strongly disagree of course.

without awesome genetics, no one runs 100m in under 10 seconds.
without superb genetics no one becomes mr olympia - many can become pro, no doubt but no amount of drugs changes muscle shape, proportions etc.
without world class genetics, no one becomes nobel prize winner in physics.
without right genetics no one becomes president (I'm talkin' 'bout real presidents, not some zamboa president)

with proper genetics, you never get cancer no matter what you do.
with wrong genetics, you get cancer no matter how "well" you live.

It's all in our genes when we born. That determines what we can become. Of course training, countless repetitions can make us good at something but that alone never makes us awesome and best in the world in something. Right genetics are required for that.

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