Is this the end of Ron Paul?

[George Whorewell]

Look, I don't think he had much of a chance anyway-- but I still had his back.

What say you getbiggers?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57345702-503544/ron-paul-disavows-racist-newsletters-under-his-name/

[howardroark]

This has been around for DECADES.

Anyone who thinks that a pro-open/free immigration anti-bombing brown people candidate is racist is just 

[howardroark]

[Bindare_Dundat]

This has been around for DECADES.

Anyone who thinks that a pro-open/free immigration anti-bombing brown people candidate is racist is just 

This. But I also never underestimate the stupidity of the general public.

[Dos Equis]

Look, I don't think he had much of a chance anyway-- but I still had his back.

What say you getbiggers?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57345702-503544/ron-paul-disavows-racist-newsletters-under-his-name/

Nah.  I don't think this will hurt him much.  It's the 911 nuttiness that will kill him.  If he wins Iowa, people will be all over that stuff (appearing on the Alex Jones show, etc.). 

[howardroark]

Ron Paul saying that he wouldn't round up the millions of illegal immigrants in this country and send them back to their homelands:

Ron Paul calling a border fence or wall "offensive" and coming out in support of free and open immigration as long as welfare is eliminated first:

Ron Paul saying he supports free trade with Cuba and the right to travel freely to and from Cuba:

Ron Paul supporting free trade:

Ron Paul: "we could be a lot more generous about letting immigrants come here"

Are these positions a racist takes?

[howardroark]

Nah.  I don't think this will hurt him much.  It's the 911 nuttiness that will kill him.  If he wins Iowa, people will be all over that stuff (appearing on the Alex Jones show, etc.). 

9/11 nuttiness?

Is the former head of the CIA's Bin Laden Unit a nut?

[headhuntersix]

Why do you assume Scheuer is right....because he agree's with "blowback"..because it fits in with a very "leftist" ideology that we're to blame for everything?

[Dos Equis]

9/11 nuttiness?

Is the former head of the CIA's Bin Laden Unit a nut?

I don't debate that garbage.  It's arguably the stupidest conspiracy theory (or any theory) I have ever heard.  If that crap gets on Ron Paul's shoes he will be completely marginalized. 

Here is Ron Paul, being smart enough to reject that nonsense:

Here is Ron Paul telling 911 Troofers to leave him alone:

[howardroark]

Why do you assume Scheuer is right....because he agree's with "blowback"..because it fits in with a very "leftist" ideology that we're to blame for everything?

I don't agree with everything he says, he is not a leftist but a conservative, and of course he agrees with "blowback," since blowback was a term coined by the CIA itself.

My point is that if you think Ron Paul is nutty, then you must call the CIA nutty for believing in blowback and for having someone who believes blowback caused 9/11 head their Bin Laden Unit.

I don't debate that garbage.  It's arguably the stupidest conspiracy theory (or any theory) I have ever heard.  If that crap gets on Ron Paul's shoes he will be completely marginalized. 

Here is Ron Paul, being smart enough to reject that nonsense:

Here is Ron Paul telling 911 Troofers to leave him alone:

Had you actually watched the video I posted you would have noticed it had nothing to do with 9/11 "truthers."

[Dos Equis]

I don't agree with everything he says, he is not a leftist but a conservative, and of course he agrees with "blowback," since blowback was a term coined by the CIA itself.

My point is that if you think Ron Paul is nutty, then you must call the CIA nutty for believing in blowback and for having someone who believes blowback caused 9/11 head their Bin Laden Unit.

Had you actually watched the video I posted you would have noticed it had nothing to do with 9/11 "truthers."

My comments specifically related to how 911 Troofers will prevent Ron Paul from ever getting off the ground. 

[howardroark]

My comments specifically related to how 911 Troofers will prevent Ron Paul from ever getting off the ground. 

You said that Ron Paul's "911 nuttiness" will kill his campaign even though you acknowledge that he isn't a "truther," soooo what is it?

[Dos Equis]

You said that Ron Paul's "911 nuttiness" will kill his campaign even though you acknowledge that he isn't a "truther," soooo what is it?

That's not what I said.  Here is what I said:

Nah.  I don't think this will hurt him much.  It's the 911 nuttiness that will kill him.  If he wins Iowa, people will be all over that stuff (appearing on the Alex Jones show, etc.). 

I then posted two clips where Ron Paul expressly rejected that ignorant crap.  So no, I don't think Ron Paul is a 911 Troofer.  He's too smart for that.  It's the fact he has a large 911 Troofer following and he appeared on a 911 Troofer's show that would hurt him. 

[Skip8282]

Look, I don't think he had much of a chance anyway-- but I still had his back.

What say you getbiggers?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57345702-503544/ron-paul-disavows-racist-newsletters-under-his-name/

I doubt it.  But I do feel ashamed for laughing at that racist joke in the first paragraph.

[Straw Man]

Since when do Repubs or for that matter TBaggers give a shit about racism

If anything, this should get him more votes

[howardroark]

Since when do Repubs or for that matter TBaggers give a shit about racism

If anything, this should get him more votes

 

You know how I know that you don't know any Republicans or Tea Partiers?

[Straw Man]

You know how I know that you don't know any Republicans or Tea Partiers?

I know TONS

pretty much everyone I work with and most of my neighbors

I wasn't referring to them or you

just a certain segment, examples of whom sometimes post on this board occasionally

they know I'm right....about them

[howardroark]

I know TONS

pretty much everyone I work with and most of my neighbors

I wasn't referring to them or you

just a certain segment, examples of whom sometimes post on this board occasionally

they know I'm right....about them

C'mon - I acknowledge that there are racist people out there, but if you make a racist remark in a caucus or primary you'll win some, you'll lose some. Most likely, you'll lose more votes than you gain UNLESS it's a case where people feel like you're being unfairly attacked over an out-of-context remark or something similar.

[Straw Man]

C'mon - I acknowledge that there are racist people out there, but if you make a racist remark in a caucus or primary you'll win some, you'll lose some. Most likely, you'll lose more votes than you gain UNLESS it's a case where people feel like you're being unfairly attacked over an out-of-context remark or something similar.

yeah but aren't we talking about a racist comment written in a newsletter 25+ years ago which RP may or may not have even written?

this is my opinion..... I don't think it will hurt him among people who already support him or are "attracted" to what he is selling

also, I personally do not think he is a racist so that is biasing my opinion as well

[240 is Back]

he's not a truther, and mccain's not a truther.

both ron paul and mccain have gone on Alex Jones show, along with many other politicians.

DIdn't hurt mccain in 2008.

[Hugo Chavez]

Look, I don't think he had much of a chance anyway-- but I still had his back.

What say you getbiggers?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57345702-503544/ron-paul-disavows-racist-newsletters-under-his-name/

Way old news and it's been brought up in the media one a month at least.  No it's not the end of him, there's even videos of blacks defending him on this.  Everyone that knows him knows he wasn't behind the shit in those newsletters.  It's not in his character at all and I think most believe him when he says he didn't write it or know about it when it happened.

[Hugo Chavez]

Nah.  I don't think this will hurt him much.  It's the 911 nuttiness that will kill him.  If he wins Iowa, people will be all over that stuff (appearing on the Alex Jones show, etc.).  

your cred talking about Paul is below zero...  How about we just assume you're going to talk shit on Paul which is a fucking givin at this point and you skip the thread.  

[Hugo Chavez]

Ron Paul saying that he wouldn't round up the millions of illegal immigrants in this country and send them back to their homelands:

Ron Paul calling a border fence or wall "offensive" and coming out in support of free and open immigration as long as welfare is eliminated first:

Ron Paul saying he supports free trade with Cuba and the right to travel freely to and from Cuba:

Ron Paul supporting free trade:

Ron Paul: "we could be a lot more generous about letting immigrants come here"

Are these positions a racist takes?

Good clips giving a good overview of Paul on the topic...

[Dos Equis]

your cred talking about Paul is below zero...  How about we just assume you're going to talk shit on Paul which is a fucking givin at this point and you skip the thread.  

LOL.  Credibility talking about Ron Paul?  That's funny.   

How about I say whatever the heck I want?  That seems to work just fine.   

[240 is Back]

yeah, beach, for 6 years, you've taken the official party position on just about everything, so yeah, we welcome you bashing ron paul.

to be honest, to the swing voters reading get big... seeing you trash ron paul, while memebrs ranging from hugo and 240, to 33 and Fury, all endorsing ron paul, really speaks volumes.

you were the one who always defended the establishment - and we saw where that got us.  People look at a low-spending, anti-war candidate like Paul, and they say "well, we tried beach bum's candidates, and we see what that got us.  Let's see what we can get with a guy who is supported by just about everyone else from all sides of the spectrum.

Carry on - your bashing of paul only makes us think he might be the RIGHT guy.