Is this the end of Ron Paul?

[Dos Equis]

yeah, beach, for 6 years, you've taken the official party position on just about everything, so yeah, we welcome you bashing ron paul.

to be honest, to the swing voters reading get big... seeing you trash ron paul, while memebrs ranging from hugo and 240, to 33 and Fury, all endorsing ron paul, really speaks volumes.

you were the one who always defended the establishment - and we saw where that got us.  People look at a low-spending, anti-war candidate like Paul, and they say "well, we tried beach bum's candidates, and we see what that got us.  Let's see what we can get with a guy who is supported by just about everyone else from all sides of the spectrum.

Carry on - your bashing of paul only makes us think he might be the RIGHT guy. 

LOL!  Meltdown.  If I happen to get bored and feel like responding, I'll actually quote what the board's resident Obama apologist (you) has said, instead of just being a lying liar (you again).  Until then, I will continue to LOL.   

[240 is Back]

  no worries man.

seriously tho - you've trumpeted the 'establishment' thing very well.  And most voters have decided the establisment options aren't all that diff and won't offer all that much change.

If anti-establishment vote wins in 2012, then Ron Paul wins in 2012.   

[Freeborn126]

LOL!  Meltdown.  If I happen to get bored and feel like responding, I'll actually quote what the board's resident Obama apologist (you) has said, instead of just being a lying liar (you again).  Until then, I will continue to LOL.   

Neo cons have to face reality.  The era of perpetual war and nation building is over.  You guys would follow Rumsfeld and Cheney off a cliff if it came down to it. 

[240 is Back]

holy fucknig shit...............

538 predicts that??

oh geez, they nailed every single state in 2008, didn't they?  had the electoral vote 100% predicted right?


GEEZ, that's unreal.

[240 is Back]

LOL @ "This is not something you'd typically see on CNN..."

They don't even hide their obvious bias against him.   So cute.

[Soul Crusher]

holy fucknig shit...............

538 predicts that??

oh geez, they nailed every single state in 2008, didn't they?  had the electoral vote 100% predicted right?


GEEZ, that's unreal.

I dont agree with RP  on everything, however - on most issues - if you go issue by issue down the line - he is the best choice.  

1.   Spending - check
2.  Bill of rights - check
3.  Environmental bullshit - check
4.  Health Care - check
5.  Rendition law - check
6.  Consistency and trust - check
    

[240 is Back]

Ron Paul's base ain't going anywhere.  that's a huge key factor.  They are 20% in every state.   

You can't say the same for newt, perry, or bachmann.  But you can for Mitt.


AND you can say that 80% of the GOP voters have been looking for an anti-Mitt for about a year now. 

Ron paul might be the guy.  yeah, he's not perfect, but he's the only guy in the race who isn't - ready for it?  -  A lying asshole.

So I'll take the honest guy with some quesiton marks, over the rest of the phony lying bought-and-paid-for liars.

[Dos Equis]

Neo cons have to face reality.  The era of perpetual war and nation building is over.  You guys would follow Rumsfeld and Cheney off a cliff if it came down to it. 

What exactly does that clip have to do with whether Ron Paul can win the nomination?  Huckabee won it on 2008.  

And you 911 Troofers are not doing Ron Paul any favors.  He asked you in 2008 to leave him alone.  

[240 is Back]

I dont think Huck had that kind of 20%-no-matter-what base in 2008 that Ron Paul has now.

You know what I mean?  Ron paul could club a baby seal before every speech, and they'd cheer him for keeping stages safe from seal attacks.

his supporters are rabid, dude.  They chased sean hannity down the street, remember?

I don't think huck enjoyed that kind of support loyalty, and I dont think he had ron paul kinds of $ either.  RPaul is dumping a ton of money into new hampshire next week, right?

[Soul Crusher]

I dont think Huck had that kind of 20%-no-matter-what base in 2008 that Ron Paul has now.

You know what I mean?  Ron paul could club a baby seal before every speech, and they'd cheer him for keeping stages safe from seal attacks.

his supporters are rabid, dude.  They chased sean hannity down the street, remember?

I don't think huck enjoyed that kind of support loyalty, and I dont think he had ron paul kinds of $ either.  RPaul is dumping a ton of money into new hampshire next week, right?

The reason we need ron paul is simple - V E T O 



he wont rubber stamp the treason coming from the congress.   BTW anyone who thinks Newt/Romney will be any different than obama on these issues is delusional.   

[240 is Back]

I think the congress will shut down some of the more potentially dangerous ron paul actions.  If they really wanna bomb congress, then they'll need 70 member of the senate to sign off on it.  Big deal there.

agreed with you on newt/romney... we'll get exactly what we have from obama with them - the only diff is the money will dry up from the poor folks and will go to the rich folks.  Middle class will keep getting raped, no doubt.

[Hugo Chavez]

LOL.  Credibility talking about Ron Paul?  That's funny.   

How about I say whatever the heck I want?  That seems to work just fine.   

for giving everyone a headache, yes it works great.  Now STFU

[Fury]

Ron Paul Walks Out of CNN Interview When Asked About Newsletters

“It’s legitimate, it’s legitimate. These things are pretty incendiary,” Borger pressed.
“Because of people like you,” Paul riffed.

Is that his actual, considered position? That the newsletters are incendiary only due to a Liberal Media making them so?

He actually has made that claim before. When these first came to light, he did not disclaim authorship. He simply said you had to read them all "in context" and not seize upon any particular sentence, but read everything he's said "in context."

So he has in fact attempted to claim that these newsletters, like the Ron Paul Survival Report (!!!), were not actually a problem at all as far as substance.

Just this darned liberal media (and only this darned liberal media) making a stink about it.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/324942.php


Video at the link. He's going to have to toughen up if he wants to be president.

[Roger Bacon]

Neo cons have to face reality.  The era of perpetual war and nation building is over.  You guys would follow Rumsfeld and Cheney off a cliff if it came down to it. 

Good post, hope you're right about that though!

[240 is Back]

agreed - he's gonna have a problem with them in the general election.  however, how tough is it to find some texas good old boy to say "oh yeah, I wrote that, hell yeah", ya know?  He will find some way to manage that.

ron paul ain't perfect.   I like him because he is the only guy who isn't going to spend us into oblivion, it's that simple. 

[Fury]

agreed - he's gonna have a problem with them in the general election.  however, how tough is it to find some texas good old boy to say "oh yeah, I wrote that, hell yeah", ya know?  He will find some way to manage that.

ron paul ain't perfect.   I like him because he is the only guy who isn't going to spend us into oblivion, it's that simple. 

....he says after he demanded that the GOP raise the debt ceiling for Obama.

[Bindare_Dundat]

Ron Paul Walks Out of CNN Interview When Asked About Newsletters

“It’s legitimate, it’s legitimate. These things are pretty incendiary,” Borger pressed.
“Because of people like you,” Paul riffed.

Is that his actual, considered position? That the newsletters are incendiary only due to a Liberal Media making them so?

He actually has made that claim before. When these first came to light, he did not disclaim authorship. He simply said you had to read them all "in context" and not seize upon any particular sentence, but read everything he's said "in context."

So he has in fact attempted to claim that these newsletters, like the Ron Paul Survival Report (!!!), were not actually a problem at all as far as substance.

Just this darned liberal media (and only this darned liberal media) making a stink about it.

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/324942.php


Video at the link. He's going to have to toughen up if he wants to be president.

I agree that he doesnt handle this very well, (in the past he rambled on way to long), but I also understand that he`s been asked about it a million times. Funny how Obama can get away  with the church and so forth but Ron is gets nuked over it. As far as Im concerned its close to being the same thing.

[240 is Back]

....he says after he demanded that the GOP raise the debt ceiling for Obama.

i dont believe in half-assing things.

If the tea party would have crashed the got, it woudl have been for no good reason.  4 weeks of shit, then they agree to another extension.  That would have been it.

You can bet if Ron Paul crashes teh MFer, it's because we're about to see change across the board with no more business as usual.


Doesn't matter how many shitty little issues I disagree with RPaul on, if I agree with him on something like, say, not crashing the fucking US economy like the rest of these assclowns - Romney, newt, Obama, Hilary, etc - Will all do.

[Fury]

I agree that he doesnt handle this very well but I also understand that he`s been asked about it a million times. Funny how Obama can get away  with the church and so forth but Ron is gets nuked over it. As far as Im concerned its close to being the same thing.

There's no doubt that they're similar. Obama has the luxury of having the media in his pocket whereas Paul doesn't. Every Republican candidate has been raked over the coals to this point and it's only going to get worse for them from here on out. He has to learn to deal with the questions if he wants to be the front-runner as the media is going to be coming at him hard.

i dont believe in half-assing things.

If the tea party would have crashed the got, it woudl have been for no good reason.  4 weeks of shit, then they agree to another extension.  That would have been it.

You can bet if Ron Paul crashes teh MFer, it's because we're about to see change across the board with no more business as usual.


Doesn't matter how many shitty little issues I disagree with RPaul on, if I agree with him on something like, say, not crashing the fucking US economy like the rest of these assclowns - Romney, newt, Obama, Hilary, etc - Will all do.

Whatever you say, Mittack. 

[Bindare_Dundat]

He actually handled well I thought. He has more patiance then I do thats for sure. When you put it context though, in 40 years of being in the public this is the worst they could find, 4 sentences. If he was what they are making him out to be you'd think there would be more. I have to admit though that I would rather nothing like this was attached to him in any way.

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[Skip8282]

He actually handled well I thought. He has more patiance then I do thats for sure. When you put it context though, in 40 years of being in the public this is the worst they could find, 4 sentences. If he was what they are making him out to be you'd think there would be more. I have to admit though that I would rather nothing like this was attached to him in any way.

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Eh, bitch is annoying asking the same shit over and over.  But BF is spot on, he's got to handle this better.

[Bindare_Dundat]

Ron Paul Racist Rant Caught On Tape!!!   

[240 is Back]

no shit... over the years, ron paul has proven that it's all about EQUALITY. 

Some dipshit put something shady on a newsletter 25 years ago.   There's nothing to show Ron Paul has done anything to hurt minorities in his entire career.

One could argue that this kind of FAIRNESS trumps every other single candidate in the race - From EITHER party. 

NOW - I expected this kind of bullshit attacks from chris mathews - but from Levin and Hannity?  Disgusting!

[Soul Crusher]

He actually handled well I thought. He has more patiance then I do thats for sure. When you put it context though, in 40 years of being in the public this is the worst they could find, 4 sentences. If he was what they are making him out to be you'd think there would be more. I have to admit though that I would rather nothing like this was attached to him in any way.

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Geez.   No wonder we are so screwed up.  No questions on serious issues

[240 is Back]

Geez.   No wonder we are so screwed up.  No questions on serious issues

only one 2008 presidential candidate from either party nailed it when it came to predicting the economic collapse - Ron Paul.

They don't wanna talk about that.  They wanna play gotcha with some bullshit like this.

I wouldn't bat an eye if the libs were the ones doing it - I saw Mathews come at Rand paul with this nonsense last year.

however I sure didn't expect the republican voices to all call ron paul a racist over this.  Disgusting.  They don't want a repub - they want a corporate tool.