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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #50 on: December 22, 2011, 09:51:28 AM »
He actually handled well I thought. He has more patiance then I do thats for sure. When you put it context though, in 40 years of being in the public this is the worst they could find, 4 sentences. If he was what they are making him out to be you'd think there would be more. I have to admit though that I would rather nothing like this was attached to him in any way.

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Saw this yesterday.  Walking out of an interview over tough questions?  Seriously?  I don't believe he's a racist, but those were legitimate questions.  And this is politics.  Dirty business.  How is he going to handle things when it really gets rough if he cannot handle a few minutes of questions like this?   

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #51 on: December 22, 2011, 09:55:11 AM »
Saw this yesterday.  Walking out of an interview over tough questions?  Seriously?  I don't believe he's a racist, but those were legitimate questions.  And this is politics.  Dirty business.  How is he going to handle things when it really gets rough if he cannot handle a few minutes of questions like this?   

Kind of reminds me of Palin getting her panties in a twist when she was asked what she reads or what she thinks about the Bush Doctrine

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #52 on: December 22, 2011, 10:01:08 AM »
Kind of reminds me of Palin getting her panties in a twist when she was asked what she reads or what she thinks about the Bush Doctrine

He should have done what obama did when asked about Rev. Wright - just lie about it.   

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #53 on: December 22, 2011, 04:47:35 PM »
Saw this yesterday.  Walking out of an interview over tough questions?  Seriously?  I don't believe he's a racist, but those were legitimate questions.  And this is politics.  Dirty business.  How is he going to handle things when it really gets rough if he cannot handle a few minutes of questions like this?   

 I could post 4 different CNN interviews over the last 2 days where he answered the questions in full. What more do they want?

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #54 on: December 22, 2011, 04:56:39 PM »
I thought he handled it great.   Looked stone cold.    Gloria Borger is a joke. 

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #55 on: December 22, 2011, 05:03:42 PM »
I thought he handled it great.   Looked stone cold.    Gloria Borger is a joke. 

lol

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #56 on: December 22, 2011, 05:04:38 PM »
lol

He showed some balls and vigor.   That's good.  Screwe these leftists

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #57 on: December 22, 2011, 05:08:48 PM »
He showed some balls and vigor.   That's good.  Screwe these leftists

People should look up who her husband is.

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #58 on: December 22, 2011, 05:09:49 PM »
People should look up who her husband is.

for fucks sake - the economy is on the eve of the abyss and this is the bullshit they want to discuss?   I mean really. 

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #59 on: December 22, 2011, 05:23:21 PM »
Ron Paul Racist Rant Caught On Tape!!!    :)



I knew it!  Ron Paul is darn racist!  I hate racists.........and Hispanics...   >:(



...Nah, I kid I kid!    :)

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #60 on: December 22, 2011, 05:39:40 PM »

CNN Poll: Ron Paul Most Popular Republican Amongst Non-Whites


While the establishment media continues to hype a 15-year-old story concerning decades old newsletters as part of a dirty tricks campaign to smear Ron Paul as a racist, the latest CNN poll shows that Paul has the most support from non-whites out of all the Republican candidates.
 
The latest CNN/ORC poll released Tuesday finds that Congressman Paul scores highest amongst minorities when matched up against Barack Obama in a hypothetical election head to head.
 
Paul scores 25% of the vote amongst non-whites, whereas Romney polls at 20% and Gingrich gets 15%.

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #61 on: December 22, 2011, 06:08:31 PM »
I could post 4 different CNN interviews over the last 2 days where he answered the questions in full. What more do they want?

To answer the question if another reporter is asking.  It's not that difficult.  This stuff has been out there for years.  He should have a canned response ready for them.  Answer the questions.  Then move on more important stuff.  If he's going to get flustered over what happened in that clip he will have trouble managing multiple real crises in the White House. 

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #62 on: December 22, 2011, 07:05:38 PM »
To answer the question if another reporter is asking.  It's not that difficult.  This stuff has been out there for years.  

From the same network?   ::) And he's been asked about it a million times, even when he was low in the polls, (in 2008), so this has nothing to do with "being at the top and should be expected" and more to do with making him out to be a racist, which he is not.  Its a total waste of time on tabloid journalism.

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #63 on: December 22, 2011, 07:19:54 PM »
CNN Poll: Ron Paul Most Popular Republican Amongst Non-Whites

33,

Do you think RP can peel back some of that 95% african american base?  I think he can

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #64 on: December 22, 2011, 07:21:23 PM »
33,

Do you think RP can peel back some of that 95% african american base?  I think he can

If he pushes free crack, coke, weed, 40's, and do whatever the fuck you want ?    a ton will sign up for that. 

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #65 on: December 22, 2011, 07:22:08 PM »
If he pushes free crack, coke, weed, 40's, and do whatever the fuck you want ?    a ton will sign up for that. 

seriously - when ron paul gets on tv and says "the wars gotta end, we need the money and jobs here"

I dont care what color you are, you'll get behind it.

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #66 on: December 22, 2011, 08:41:42 PM »
To answer the question if another reporter is asking.  It's not that difficult.  This stuff has been out there for years.  He should have a canned response ready for them.  Answer the questions.  Then move on more important stuff.  If he's going to get flustered over what happened in that clip he will have trouble managing multiple real crises in the White House. 

Ron Paul did answer her question twice in the video.  He said twice that he did not write them, that he did not read them until 10 years later, and that he does not agree with them.  She is the one that would not move on to the more important stuff and kept asking the same question over and over. 

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #67 on: December 23, 2011, 10:57:27 AM »
Ron Paul did answer her question twice in the video.  He said twice that he did not write them, that he did not read them until 10 years later, and that he does not agree with them.  She is the one that would not move on to the more important stuff and kept asking the same question over and over. 

Loco she didn't really keep asking the same question.  Here is what she asked:

- Did you ever read the letters?

- Did you ever object to any of them?

- Did you make any money off of them?

- There are reports you made $1 million in 1993?

- You read them, but didn't do anything about them?

- Is it a legitimate question to ask? 

I understand him getting irritated, but terminating the interview?  Did not look good at all. 

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #68 on: December 23, 2011, 10:58:43 AM »
Ron Paul Letter Warned 'Race War' Coming
Thursday, 22 Dec 2011

A direct-mail solicitation for Ron Paul's political and investment newsletters two decades ago warned of a "coming race war in our big cities" and of a "federal-homosexual cover-up" to play down the impact of AIDS.

The eight-page letter, which appears to carry Paul's signature at the end, also warns that the U.S. government's redesign of currency to include different colors - a move aimed at thwarting counterfeiters - actually was part of a plot to allow the government to track Americans using the "new money."

The letter urges readers to subscribe to Paul's newsletters so that he could "tell you how you can save yourself and your family" from an overbearing government.

The letter's details emerge at a time when Paul, now a contender for the Republican nomination for president, is under fire over reports that his newsletters contained racist, anti-homosexual and anti-Israel rants.

Reports of the newsletters' contents have Paul's campaign scrambling to deny that he wrote the inflammatory articles.

Among other things, the articles called the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. a "world-class philanderer," criticized the U.S. holiday bearing King's name as "Hate Whitey Day," and said that AIDS sufferers "enjoy the attention and pity that comes with being sick."

As Paul made a campaign stop in Manchester, Iowa, on Thursday, his Iowa chairman, Drew Ivers, repeated Paul's assertions that he did not write the articles that resurfaced this week in a report in the Weekly Standard magazine.

Paul has said that he is not sure who wrote the articles that were published under his name. He has said the articles do not reflect his views, and noted that his public stances - supporting gays in the military for example - have run counter to the incendiary statements in the newsletters.

In an interview with CNN's Gloria Borger on Wednesday, Paul said of the newsletter's articles: "I didn't write them. I didn't read them at the time and I disavow them."

When Borger continued to pursue the subject, Paul removed his microphone and walked out of the interview.

"It is ridiculous to imply that Ron Paul is a bigot, racist, or unethical," Ivers said.

However, Ivers said, Paul does not deny or retract material that Paul has written under his own signature, such as the letter promoting Paul's newsletters.

When asked whether that meant Paul believed there was a government conspiracy to cover up the impact of AIDS, Ivers said, "I don't think he embraces that."

Paul's newsletters "showed good factual information and investment information," Ivers said. "It was a public service, helping people understand and equip them to avoid an unsound monetary policy."

"EXTRAORDINARY SOURCES"

The letter promoting Paul's newsletters was written about 1993. It was during a period in which Paul - who left Congress in 1985 after serving about eight years - returned to Washington after a decade's absence.

(For a PDF of the solicitation letter see link.reuters.com/vud75s)

The letter was provided to Reuters by James Kirchick, a contributing editor for The New Republic magazine. He says he found the letter in archives of political literature maintained by the University of Kansas and the Wisconsin Historical Society.

Early in the 2008 presidential campaign - in which Paul was a candidate - Kirchick published an article in The New Republic in which he described Paul as "not the plain-speaking antiwar activist his supporters believe they are backing - but rather a member in good standing of some of the oldest and ugliest traditions in American politics."

The letter promoting Paul's newsletters claims that Paul - through what he describes as a network of "extraordinary sources" in Congress, the White House, the Treasury and Justice departments, the Federal Reserve and the Internal Revenue Service - had acquired unique insider information that would his subscribers to "neutralize" the plans of "powerbrokers."

Paul's letter went on to describe various plots and schemes that he had "unmasked," including a "plot for world government, world money and world central banking." He also claimed to have exposed a plan by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to "suspend the Constitution" in a falsely declared national emergency.

Despite being "told not to talk," Paul wrote that his newsletters also "laid bare" the "Israeli lobby, which plays Congress like a cheap harmonica," and a "federal-homosexual cover-up on AIDS."

Paul claimed that his "training as a physician" helped him "see through" this alleged cover-up.

Paul also suggested that a planned U.S. currency with new notes designed to curb counterfeiting and money laundering would result in the distribution of "totalitarian bills" that "were tinted pink and blue and brown, and blighted with holograms, diffraction gratings, metal and plastic threads and chemical alarms."

Paul said the money was designed to allow authorities to "keep track of American cash and American citizens."

He urged the letter's readers to send in $99, which would buy subscriptions to his monthly political and investment newsletters, a copy of his book "Surviving the New Money," an investment manual and access to the "unlisted phone number of my Financial Hotline for fast breaking news."

http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/paul-race-war-newsletter/2011/12/22/id/421943

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #69 on: December 23, 2011, 11:01:25 AM »
He is absolutely right, sadly.  Once the nations' financial system collapses, as it will, and the welfare checks and govt stops functioning etc, we are 3 weeks away from civil war and chaos.

 

 

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #70 on: December 23, 2011, 11:05:47 AM »
He is absolutely right, sadly.  Once the nations' financial system collapses, as it will, and the welfare checks and govt stops functioning etc, we are 3 weeks away from civil war and chaos.

 

 
shhhhh... don't ruin BB's moment... He thinks he's delivering something special that others haven't already seen lol...  I'll let him feel special for a moment and then kick him back in his corner.

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #71 on: December 23, 2011, 11:08:15 AM »
shhhhh... don't ruin BB's moment... He thinks he's delivering something special that others haven't already seen lol...  I'll let him feel special for a moment and then kick him back in his corner.

am i the only one so sick and tired of mealy mouth political speak and people saying a lot of words and you still have no idea WTF they really think on something?   

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #72 on: December 23, 2011, 11:15:33 AM »
Kinds seems like a lot of the stuff they describe is happening as we speak.

I.E. -

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Paul's letter went on to describe various plots and schemes that he had "unmasked," including a "plot for world government, world money and world central banking." He also claimed to have exposed a plan by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to "suspend the Constitution" in a falsely declared national emergency.


Makes you wonder.

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #73 on: December 23, 2011, 11:17:19 AM »
Kinds seems like a lot of the stuff they describe is happening as we speak.

I.E. -

Makes you wonder.

After the BS of Fast and Furious how anyone can think these ideas are outlandish is beyond me. 

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Re: Is this the end of Ron Paul?
« Reply #74 on: December 23, 2011, 11:21:19 AM »
After the BS of Fast and Furious how anyone can think these ideas are outlandish is beyond me. 
No doubt. How people can ignore, rationalize, or flat out accept the unconstitutional and illegal scandals in this administration is beyond me.

I get the feeling Obama could murder an innocent and people would find a way to praise him.