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Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« on: December 20, 2011, 06:31:48 PM »
Gallup: Number of Americans Who View Country Through Class-Warfare Prism Declines To Pre-Obama Levels

Fewer Americans See U.S. Divided Into "Haves," "Have Nots"
The majority would put themselves in the "haves" category if they had to choose
by Lymari Morales

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Americans are now less likely to see U.S. society as divided into the "haves" and "have nots" than they were in 2008, returning to their views prior to that point. A clear majority, 58%, say they do not think of America in this way, after Americans were divided 49% to 49% in the summer of 2008.



The shift, documented by a Gallup poll conducted Nov. 28-Dec. 1, is noteworthy in that it came after 3 ½ years of economic turmoil in which more Americans have become unemployed and more have become negative about their personal finances. The current poll was also conducted as the Occupy Wall Street movement continues to focus on the disparities between the wealthiest 1% of Americans and everyone else.

If they had to choose, 58% of Americans would say they are in the "haves," rather than the "have nots" group. This breakdown has held remarkably steady over the past two decades of economic boom and bust, with a record-high 67% of Americans putting themselves in the "haves" category during the strong economic times of the late 1990s.



Not surprisingly, Republicans and Democrats are on opposite ends of the spectrum in both cases, with Democrats more likely than Republicans to say society is divided into haves and have nots, and more likely to see themselves in the "have nots" group. However, it is independents and moderates who since 2008 have grown significantly less likely to see society this way.



Postgraduates and those making $75,000 or more per year join Republicans as those most likely to label themselves as "haves." Americans making less than $30,000 per year, nonwhites, those with a high school education or less, and those not employed join Democrats as the groups most likely to label themselves as "have nots."



Implications

Americans' views of their own position as "haves" or "have nots" have been remarkably stable, even as the nation's economic problems have intensified. Still, the finding that fewer Americans now than in 2008 consider U.S. society as divided into "haves" and "have nots" suggests a decreasing -- rather than increasing -- level of worry about unfair income distribution in the U.S. at this time.

As populists and politicians have made inequality more of a political issue, moderates and independents in particular are turning away from the idea of a society divided in two. Thus, Americans as a whole are no more likely to see the country as divided into haves and have nots than at any time in the past two decades.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/151556/Fewer-Americans-Divided-Haves-Nots.aspx



What strategy will they gravitate towards next?



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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2011, 06:47:54 PM »
Where does Gallup say "leftist class warfare"?

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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2011, 06:58:49 PM »
who pushes the haves and have nots kind of agenda straw?

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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2011, 07:01:47 PM »
who pushes the haves and have nots kind of agenda straw?

The people who can afford lobbyists

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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2011, 07:09:14 PM »
The people who can afford lobbyists
LOL orrrrrrrrrr

Obama
pelosi
schwartz
jackson lee
reid
etc.
etc..
etc...

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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2011, 07:16:07 PM »
LOL orrrrrrrrrr

Obama
pelosi
schwartz
jackson lee
reid
etc.
etc..
etc...

LoL right back

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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2011, 07:23:18 PM »
Looks like right wing class warfare is still working fine

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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2011, 07:43:52 PM »
thats funny whats that sharp increase under clinton doing there?

how much is their "fair" share straw?

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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2011, 08:11:43 PM »
thats funny whats that sharp increase under clinton doing there?
how much is their "fair" share straw?

no idea

nothing in anything you or I posted talks about fairness

still looking for the part where Gallup says the "leftist clas warfare strategy" isn't working

I can't even find leftist or class warfare

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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2011, 08:18:52 PM »
no idea

nothing in anything you or I posted talks about fairness

still looking for the part where Gallup says the "leftist clas warfare strategy" isn't working

I can't even find leftist or class warfare
LOL does the term "fair share" mean anything to you?

whos been yelling that phrase for 3 years now?

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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2011, 08:21:03 PM »
LOL does the term "fair share" mean anything to you?

whos been yelling that phrase for 3 years now?

who has been yelling that?

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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2011, 03:36:32 AM »
who has been yelling that?

ARE YOU FUCKING JOKING?

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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2011, 07:57:43 AM »
ARE YOU FUCKING JOKING?
No

I see neither you nor Tony has an answer


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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2011, 08:02:38 AM »
No

I see neither you nor Tony has an answer



Straw - do you consider yourself informed?

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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2011, 08:29:39 AM »
Straw - do you consider yourself informed?

I consider him one of the five dumbest people on this board.

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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2011, 09:04:24 AM »
still waiting for someone to show anyone YELLING about "fair share" and how that is actually class warfare

Does anyone here think it was class war far when Clinton raised taxes.   

How about when Bush 1 did it?

How about when Reagan did it....multiple times

The whole idea of class warfare is classic Orwellian projection where the people who are doing something attempt to deflect attention by accusing others of doing the very same thing and you can quite cleary see the results of their efforts

To be clear, raising marginal tax rates a few % points back to the place where they were in the 1990's is not class warfare

taxing investment is the same way that we tax wages (you know stuff you get for actually work) is not class warfare


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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2011, 09:05:17 AM »
still waiting for someone to show anyone YELLING about "fair share" and how that is actually class warfare

Does anyone here think it was class war far when Clinton raised taxes.   

How about when Bush 1 did it?

How about when Reagan did it....multiple times

The whole idea of class warfare is classic Orwellian projection where the people who are doing something attempt to deflect attention by accusing others of doing the very same thing and you can quite cleary see the results of their efforts

To be clear, raising marginal tax rates a few % points back to the place where they were in the 1990's is not class warfare

taxing investment is the same way that we tax wages (you know stuff you get for actually work) is not class warfare



Why do we need to raise taxes?

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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2011, 09:09:10 AM »
Why do we need to raise taxes?

you failed my test yesterday so no more responses to your stupid question

if you want to re-test that's fine

you can even take the same test and now that you know the answer you might have a better chance this time around

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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2011, 09:12:10 AM »
you failed my test yesterday so no more responses to your stupid question

if you want to re-test that's fine

you can even take the same test and now that you know the answer you might have a better chance this time around

FAIL - why raise taxes Straw? 

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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2011, 09:17:43 AM »
FAIL - why raise taxes Straw? 

yes you failed

usually I would require a 30 day waiting period but I'll make an exception for you

would you like to re-test?

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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2011, 09:38:08 AM »
yes you failed

usually I would require a 30 day waiting period but I'll make an exception for you

would you like to re-test?

Hahaha, what a tool this guy is.

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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2011, 09:39:34 AM »
Hahaha, what a tool this guy is.

next test is for you


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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2011, 09:43:53 AM »
next test is for you



Sorry, you reduced yourself to joke status with your claims about the post office and George Washington.

As it stands, I find it entertaining to watch you waste so much time and effort avoiding defending any of your childish points.

You seem to think you're special on here when in reality you're a loser.

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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2011, 09:47:33 AM »
Sorry, you reduced yourself to joke status with your claims about the post office and George Washington.

As it stands, I find it entertaining to watch you waste so much time and effort avoiding defending any of your childish points.

You seem to think you're special on here when in reality you're a loser.

LoL

whatever you say short bus

If you have a problem with my posts then you're free to not read them or respond


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Re: Gallup: The leftist "class warfare" strategy isn't working
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2011, 09:50:53 AM »
LoL

whatever you say short bus

If you have a problem with my posts then you're free to not read them or respond



Straw - if we raise taxes and still have a 1.4 Trillion dollar deficit?   Whats the point?