Human Growth Hormone "blast" protocol for size and weight gain

[BFG]

I would be grateful if you could explain the nutritional science behind is protocol while on DNP. Theoretical dosages also.  Yes,much respect to Farrah this guy brings his guys on the money.  I'd like to see Heath work with Farrah eventually.

I'm assuming you have a general idea of what DNP does in the human body. Understand that the fat loss that DNP induces is basically a symptom of poisoning. DNP will take the fat off regardless of what you eat (generally speaking) but when we are discussing contest prep for the Olympia there is little room for error and that last 0.5% of fat on your glutes may cost you. The most effective way for DNP to work on adipose tissue is once glycogen has been depleted. This means that a short term ketosis diet in combination with a few full body high rep workouts are necessary during the onset of the DNP. Once depletion is achieved, carbohydrates can be reintroduced to the diet because by then the DNP will have induced mitochondrial uncoupling. The more carbohydrates (especially simple carbs) on DNP, the more it will amplify your body's internal temperature and cause greater fat loss. During the 2-3 week DNP cycles that the athletes run, the diet is very low in fat, about 60-70 percent carbohydrates (a lot of fruit in particular) and the rest protein. The DNP doses are usually ramped up with the top end being about 500mg. After completion of the DNP cycle there is usually a carb up day and then the contest prep goes on as usual.

[arce1988]

 use 18 i.u. Ser daily

[aesthetics]

I'm assuming you have a general idea of what DNP does in the human body. Understand that the fat loss that DNP induces is basically a symptom of poisoning. DNP will take the fat off regardless of what you eat (generally speaking) but when we are discussing contest prep for the Olympia there is little room for error and that last 0.5% of fat on your glutes may cost you. The most effective way for DNP to work on adipose tissue is once glycogen has been depleted. This means that a short term ketosis diet in combination with a few full body high rep workouts are necessary during the onset of the DNP. Once depletion is achieved, carbohydrates can be reintroduced to the diet because by then the DNP will have induced mitochondrial uncoupling. The more carbohydrates (especially simple carbs) on DNP, the more it will amplify your body's internal temperature and cause greater fat loss. During the 2-3 week DNP cycles that the athletes run, the diet is very low in fat, about 60-70 percent carbohydrates (a lot of fruit in particular) and the rest protein. The DNP doses are usually ramped up with the top end being about 500mg. After completion of the DNP cycle there is usually a carb up day and then the contest prep goes on as usual.

if you are going to make up pro cycles that's one thing because it's implied it's fictional and you are guessing. but if you are going to state things like this as if they are empirical fact about how carb depletion and carb loading increases dnp effectiveness (because of heat?? lol  ) at least do a 5 second google search for concillitator's posts where he's talked ad nauseum about the mechanics of dnp and disproven this myth entirely. anyone who understands the mechanics of atp generation and how the metabolism works or even just ran dnp would know it's entirely irrelevant what you eat but i guess that is lost on you since you just copy 10 year old logic from elitefitness that you've never tried your self and has since then been disproven

also, 500mg max dosage? for a pro nonetheless, coming from the guy who suggests 10grams a week and 40iu of serostim IV only once a day? lol, where the hell are you getting this shit? at least if you are going to plagiarize other people's ideas and theories at least steal some that are somewhat correct, i don't know if you are purposely trying to be wrong and just trolling people because a broken clock is right twice a day and you are 0/70 posts

[BFG]

if you are going to make up pro cycles that's one thing because it's implied it's fictional and you are guessing. but if you are going to state things like this as if they are empirical fact about how carb depletion and carb loading increases dnp effectiveness (because of heat?? lol  ) at least do a 5 second google search for concillitator's posts where he's talked ad nauseum about the mechanics of dnp and disproven this myth entirely. anyone who understands the mechanics of atp generation and how the metabolism works or even just ran dnp would know it's entirely irrelevant what you eat but i guess that is lost on you since you just copy 10 year old logic from elitefitness that you've never tried your self and has since then been disproven

also, 500mg max dosage? for a pro nonetheless, coming from the guy who suggests 10grams a week and 40iu of serostim IV only once a day? lol, where the hell are you getting this shit? at least if you are going to plagiarize other people's ideas and theories at least steal some that are somewhat correct, i don't know if you are purposely trying to be wrong and just trolling people because a broken clock is right twice a day and you are 0/70 posts

I noticed that you became very hostile toward me when I pointed out that you most likely lack the genetic response to hormones to build a quality physique. I did not mean anything offensive by it.

[aesthetics]

i never read that post, and even so, i have such little respect for you after reading your posts i don't care at all about your opinions. you would be the equivalent if anthony roberts and ron harris had a baby

also, don't cry about people being mean to you in the thunderdome, you big weepy vagina lol

[arce1988]

 shgh via i.v.?

[The Wizard of Truth]

BFG I will try the iv gh after Christmas. Which veins do I hit? I mean 40iu is four 1ml insulin needles worth do how will I spread it out? Thank you

[Brocty]

BFG I will try the iv gh after Christmas. Which veins do I hit? I mean 40iu is four 1ml insulin needles worth do how will I spread it out? Thank you

that big juicy vein running up your forearm to the inside of elbow.  Easy to hit.  Any one will do though. 

[aesthetics]

BFG I will try the iv gh after Christmas. Which veins do I hit? I mean 40iu is four 1ml insulin needles worth do how will I spread it out? Thank you

40iu of gh in one dosage, especially serostim, is overkill. you actually over saturate your hgh receptors to such an extent at that dosage that you begin to disable them.

anyways, you don't need 1ml of fluid to dissolve a 10iu vial of gh powder, you can dissolve it in 0.5ml or maybe a little less it just takes a bit longer to fully dissolve. saline solution would work, it's more isotonic, which probably won't matter if you are only doing a few iu a day. saline is not bacteriostatic though but if you are going to blast a few vials a day it doesn't matter since it won't be enough time to allow bacteria to grow.

also you'll get better results breaking that dosage up and dosing multiple times a day, to allow the gh receptors to "recharge" so to speak and since the window for satellite cell proliferation stays elevated for roughly ~36 hours post training (varies depending on factors), it's not imperative to dose immediately after training.

[Mjolnir]

i never read that post, and even so, i have such little respect for you after reading your posts i don't care at all about your opinions. you would be the equivalent if anthony roberts and ron harris had a baby

also, don't cry about people being mean to you in the thunderdome, you big weepy vagina lol

Well why don't you fcuk off out of his threads and stop commenting then.  If you don't care about his opinions don't read and stop stalking him because people who know about this stuff from personal experience are reading it and don't want your dribble in the thread.

[suckmymuscle]

  You guys are crazy. Steroids are one thing, but when you combine it with GH and insulin you have made a real gambit of your health for a degree of muscular development that 99.9999% of all people think is ugly. You people who think that taking steroids + insulin + GH will have no long term consequences for your health are crazy. Expect to lose between 20 to 40 years from your lifespan.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Stavios]

I tried it and i liked it

[makaveli25]

  You guys are crazy. Steroids are one thing, but when you combine it with GH and insulin you have made a real gambit of your health for a degree of muscular development that 99.9999% of all people think is ugly. You people who think that taking steroids + insulin + GH will have no long term consequences for your health are crazy. Expect to lose between 20 to 40 years from your lifespan.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

If you're a gymrat you have no business blasting 40ius of gh in your veins it's ridiculous. A few i.u of gh and decent cycle is all that a gymrat should use. Doesn't all that gh make the ventricles in your heart grow?

If you're making a living off your body I can understand it. I bet a lot of the top pros have good doctors keeping an eye on them.

[njflex]

If you're a gymrat you have no business blasting 40ius of gh in your veins it's ridiculous. A few i.u of gh and decent cycle is all that a gymrat should use. Doesn't all that gh make the ventricles in your heart grow?

If you're making a living off your body I can understand it. I bet a lot of the top pros have good doctors keeping an eye on them.

this,,,,if ur blasting some of these cycles mentioned to be the biggest guy in your gym or to go clubbing u got problems and will down the road maybe and then look like u never trained in the 1st place...

[SamsonD]

So straight up I'm NOT going to IV GH, but I don't have access to serostim or any other pharm grade so that would be why.
I've been doing 10IU Kigs followed by 10IU slin PRE workout for about a week now.  Loving the pumps and fullness with this protocol.  On non workout days I take neither.
I do the GH IM and the slin SQ.

BFG, do you think I would get more bang out of the GH if I dosed it POST workout instead of pre?  I'm doing 10 now because it wipes me out with tiredness.  Working my way up to 15 and then 20IU.

[QuakerOats]

Please, that's about $50 a day or more in GH.  What are you guys millionaires?

hahaha, you beat me to it, either these guys have a money tree in their backyards or stormed Eli Lilly labs with machine guns and stole their entire inventory, lol, im still cracking up "40 iu a day".

[Stavios]

hahaha, you beat me to it, either these guys have a money tree in their backyards or stormed Eli Lilly labs with machine guns and stole their entire inventory, lol, im still cracking up "40 iu a day".

they just do that for a week tho

the guys he speaks about on the UK board, they just do 2-3 kits in a week and don't do any GH the rest of the month

so it's not more expensive than doing 10iu a day, it's just condensed in a week

[dustin]

Even though I'm not able to afford GH, given a bunch of kits I would still just pin it IM. Kigs, shitty generics, it doesn't matter... I'm fine with IM injections but pinning anything IV just seems desperate. I'm not scared of stigmas and taboo, but I just can't get over pinning anything IV unless it's critical

[QuakerOats]

they just do that for a week tho

the guys he speaks about on the UK board, they just do 2-3 kits in a week and don't do any GH the rest of the month

so it's not more expensive than doing 10iu a day, it's just condensed in a week

shit even doing that much takes a ton of $$$, 2-3 kits a month is between 300-450 bucks minimum, shit thats like a moderate car or rent payment and seems like 80 percent of this board claims to be on it.

[njflex]

shit even doing that much takes a ton of $$$, 2-3 kits a month is between 300-450 bucks minimum, shit thats like a moderate car or rent payment and seems like 80 percent of this board claims to be on it.

maybe momma and dadyo is paying,,,,imagine that breakfast conversation ,,hey dad pass the sugar free syrup for my hotcakes and btw where's my growth allowance this month....

[QuakerOats]

maybe momma and dadyo is paying,,,,imagine that breakfast conversation ,,hey dad pass the sugar free syrup for my hotcakes and btw where's my growth allowance this month....

lol and then going into a spoiled brat rage when they refuse, "goddman it, you told me to get a 20 hour a week job at Home Depot because i dropped out of community college and then you said you'd support my "bodybuilding career" now i want my damn GGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[Growth NOOB]

40 ius IV in a single shot.


Definitely not buying it.  I can see 40ius spread out throughout the day, but a single IV shot, no way in hell anyone does this. 


For one week when I was on 10ius spread throughout the day, I would IV and additional 10 ius in the afternoon.   Within about a half hour you get extremely lethargic to the point where you would have to pull over if you were driving.  I couldn't last more than a few days doing these 10iu IV shots, and I have an extremely strong constitution and will power. 

I am all for pushing the envelope and hefty cycles but 40iu IV in one shot is just absolute nonsense

[dustin]

The not-so-secret-secret is that they just buy more than they need and slang the rest to other gym rats. Those $400-$500 kits are no more than $200 max from a half decent source. Buy 5, 10, 20 or even more and you're paying pittens with the subsidy alone. Sell a few of those are full "retail" value and you break even. Sell more aggressively and you're banking money.

To do this though you have to have a lot of patience. Bodybuilders are fucking idiot losers and selling anything to them is a shit show. Most higher level competitors I know just stock way the fuck up, sell a few kits or some gear to newbies at twice the cost. If you can get away with paying for your drugs, you're set. But to be honest, because of how fucking lunatic most bodybuilders are the competitors I know at least turn to selling narcoticos. Much, much, muuuuuuch easier. Even a crackhead will be a more appreciated customer than a bodybuilder.

[njflex]

lol and then going into a spoiled brat rage when they refuse, "goddman it, you told me to get a 20 hour a week job at Home Depot because i dropped out of community college and then you said you'd support my "bodybuilding career" now i want my damn GGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

lol,,,,

[no one]

40iu of gh in one dosage, especially serostim, is overkill. you actually over saturate your hgh receptors to such an extent at that dosage that you begin to disable them.

anyways, you don't need 1ml of fluid to dissolve a 10iu vial of gh powder, you can dissolve it in 0.5ml or maybe a little less it just takes a bit longer to fully dissolve. saline solution would work, it's more isotonic, which probably won't matter if you are only doing a few iu a day. saline is not bacteriostatic though but if you are going to blast a few vials a day it doesn't matter since it won't be enough time to allow bacteria to grow.

also you'll get better results breaking that dosage up and dosing multiple times a day, to allow the gh receptors to "recharge" so to speak and since the window for satellite cell proliferation stays elevated for roughly ~36 hours post training (varies depending on factors), it's not imperative to dose immediately after training.

shut the fuck up.

thanks in advance.