Human Growth Hormone "blast" protocol for size and weight gain

[Swlabr]

BFG what about diet? Training?

[BFG]

BTW does anybody feel a difference between IM and Sub-q injections? I've never injected HGH into a muscle but might try switching it up a bit.

You will probably just get very sleepy within 15-30 minutes of the IM injection.

[aesthetics]

oh-oh- the 5 gram a week of test user is upset.

dont want to upset a monster like you- i mean, you must be a real MONSTER if your running 5 gram test cycles. either that or your genetics are for shit. which is it, MONSTER? with arms bigger than arnolds with better shape you must be a real sight to behold. lol

oh brother  

i don't know what i did to make you so upset to result in such pathetic attempts to infeebly insult me, i mean, at this point you are just editing prior posts of mine and cutting words out of them as well as blatantly making things up. i think it's hilarious because i can't imagine how pathetic a person would have to stoop to these levels over internet-honor, or whatever it is in your mind that is compelling you (maybe it is unrequited love, lol) but speaking in total earnesty, i am laughing at you at this point so you may want to try another approach in attempting to garner my affection.

[BFG]

BFG what about diet? Training?

To become pro size here are the necessary factors, in order of importance:

1. Food
2. Drugs
3. Genetics
4. Training
5. Sleep

In regards to dietary advice, 99 percent of guys who never reach their true potential no matter how many drugs they take fall short due to simply not eating enough. The effect of grams of hormones and large quantities of GH has on metabolism is profound. Add in insulin which will inevitably exponentially increase your overall caloric intake due to the new carbohydrate demands and you can be expected to eat around 8-10,000 calories per day.

A high carbohydrate, high protein and moderate fat diet is ideal and then if gains are not consistent, slowly adding in more fat sources to every meal. In terms of numbers, I am talking 600-700 grams of carbohydrates per day, 500-600 grams of protein per day and around 300-400 grams of fat. A couple fast food meals every day is a great way to keep the calories high, try to eat 2lbs of burger meat from fast food every day (i.e. 2 meals per day would consist of 2 double quarter pounders per fast food meal). Protein sources should mainly be from red meat and whole eggs. Carbohydrate sources should be primarily oatmeal, brown and white rice, pasta. Fat sources will mostly be obtained through the red meat and whole eggs but additional fat sources such as macademia nut oil or extra virgin olive oil is ideal.

In terms of training, I do not recommend training more than 4 days per week and for most, 3 days would be optimal. Do not do countless sets and reps of isolation exercises. Use compound exercises to lift heavy weights to failure and then rest.

[QuakerOats]

i don't know what i did to make you so upset to result in such pathetic attempts to infeebly insult me, i mean, at this point you are just editing prior posts of mine and cutting words out of them as well as blatantly making things up. i think it's hilarious because i can't imagine how pathetic a person would have to stoop to these levels over internet-honor, or whatever it is in your mind that is compelling you (maybe it is unrequited love, lol) but speaking in total earnesty, i am laughing at you at this point so you may want to try another approach in attempting to garner my affection.

no one has proven over and over his knowledge and experience in the game, what exactly have you proven again twinkie?

[aesthetics]

You will probably just get very sleepy within 15-30 minutes of the IM injection.

which differs from sub-cut injections how, exactly?

also, why exactly are you suggesting supplementation of t3 on gh when gh doesn't reduce t3 levels but increases deiodinases which subsequently increases t4 to t3 conversion and reduces reverse t3 so t3 rates elevate and as a result tsh drops to keep t3 levels in nominal. most of the side effects people get from growth hormone are due to an increase in prolactin levels, which can be remedied by dopamine agonists or mucuna pruriens.

go away bfg

[aesthetics]

no one has proven over and over his knowledge and experience in the game, what exactly have you proven again twinkie?

i haven't seen him say anything remotely intelligent he just follows me around into every thread and copy pasting posts i made after he edits them. clearly, he's a real rhode scholar

[BFG]

which differs from sub-cut injections how, exactly?

also, why exactly are you suggesting supplementation of t3 on gh when gh doesn't reduce t3 levels but increases deiodinases which subsequently increases t4 to t3 conversion and reduces reverse t3 so t3 rates elevate and as a result tsh drops to keep t3 levels in nominal. most of the side effects people get from growth hormone are due to an increase in prolactin levels, which can be remedied by dopamine agonists or mucuna pruriens.

go away bfg

I have to admit, I find it comical that you think velvet beans from vitamin shoppe can combat the side effects of 40iu's of GH.

[wes]

no one has proven over and over his knowledge and experience in the game, what exactly have you proven again twinkie?

He`s proven he can read books and parrot info...........oh yeah,he can use big words too. 

[aesthetics]

I have to admit, I find it comical that you think velvet beans from vitamin shoppe can combat the side effects of 40iu's of GH.

i didn't state that because a.) no one is ever going to run any of these ridiculous theoretical cycles you post, they are truly ludicrous man, you have to admit that: a.) 10k grams a week, and 40iu serostim IV is a very, very heavy cycle coming with a lot of sides. also that's a $30,000+ a year dosing protocol, no one except the very top pros or the very few select sponsored bodybuilders can afford this. b.) it's not necessary to reach pro size and the side effects from such a cycle will be unbearable. i'm not going to talk about my own experience on high dosages but i know a lot of gym rats who cannot handle high dosages of even half that or 1/3rd that dosage, for even short amounts of time, let alone for half the year.

you are right though, if someone is using 40iu of gh a day, of something as potent as serostim nonetheless, they'll need something stronger than the mucuna pruriens, like caber/prami but for most people's gh usage mucuna pruriens will be sufficient and doesn't come with the sides of dopamine agonists.

i have an earnest question for you bfg, what good is giving advise if no one will ever have a use for it or ever use it? why not tailor your advice to the average user here, and not the 0.000001% of the human population who weighs 280 pounds at 5% bodyfat and is looking to win the olympia by pulling out all the stops and spending more than the average american income on steroids, gh and ancillaries to do it?

[irishdave]

You will probably just get very sleepy within 15-30 minutes of the IM injection.

Yeah bro, but what are the benefits of doing it?
Also, you think 5-7iu is too low for any significant changes? I started on kigs in the last month and it's better quality HGH than my previous brand which I was on for 6-7 months and am retaining less water on it for sure. I am 6'5" and 250lbs just coming off a light enough cycle of test/eq.
Anyone think doing 10-12iu EOD is better than me running the 5-7iu ED?

[aesthetics]

He`s proven he can read books and parrot info...........oh yeah,he can use big words too. 

Nanos Gigantium Humeris Insidentes
 
 

[BFG]

i didn't state that because a.) no one is ever going to run any of these ridiculous theoretical cycles you post, they are truly ludicrous man, you have to admit that: a.) 10k grams a week, and 40iu serostim IV is a very, very heavy cycle coming with a lot of sides. also that's a $30,000+ a year dosing protocol, no one except the very top pros or the very few select sponsored bodybuilders can afford this. b.) it's not necessary to reach pro size and the side effects from such a cycle will be unbearable. i'm not going to talk about my own experience on high dosages but i know a lot of gym rats who cannot handle high dosages of even half that or 1/3rd that dosage, for even short amounts of time, let alone for half the year.

you are right though, if someone is using 40iu of gh a day, of something as potent as serostim nonetheless, they'll need something stronger than the mucuna pruriens, like caber/prami but for most people's gh usage mucuna pruriens will be sufficient and doesn't come with the sides of dopamine agonists.

i have an earnest question for you bfg, what good is giving advise if no one will ever have a use for it or ever use it? why not tailor your advice to the average user here, and not the 0.000001% of the human population who weighs 280 pounds at 5% bodyfat and is looking to win the olympia by pulling out all the stops and spending more than the average american income on steroids, gh and ancillaries to do it?

None of what I am posting is advice. There is an obsessive curiosity on this board about what the pros are doing so I simply post facts that people can read and satisfy their curiosity with.

[BIG_STI]

IGF-1 is not really talked about that much.  I understand that gh, slin and IGF-1 work in synergy with the sum greater than the individual parts.  How important is it at the pro level and what does it do?

You are a fat lazy drug addict that doesn't lift weights or have a job. So STFU with the Bro science

[irishdave]

You are a fat lazy drug addict that doesn't lift weights or have a job. So STFU with the Bro science

A lot of hate on this board. I'm a real asshole but the amount of abuse thrown back and forth here is epic!

[goomba420]

bfg is a classy guy  

bfg = big fuckin gorilla = kai greene

dismised ,,

[aesthetics]

None of what I am posting is advice. There is an obsessive curiosity on this board about what the pros are doing so I simply post facts that people can read and satisfy their curiosity with.

alright dude, fair enough.

do you work with pros or know them in person? i suppose i came off as hostile previously and, admittedly, it was due to tren + npp + insomnia and i was just having a little fun trash talking so with that in mind and disregarding my previous provocations, i am asking this question complete earnestly. i'm not looking to again start something nor am i seeking to discredit you, check credentials or anything insidious by this question. merely curious because i see people stating that you are well vetted and your statements are accurate even though you only have a few posts here, so i am wondering if you went by other names, or if you post on other boards or even if you are a known person in real life?  

[BFG]

alright dude, fair enough.

do you work with pros or know them in person? i suppose i came off as hostile previously and, admittedly, it was due to tren + npp + insomnia and i was just having a little fun trash talking so with that in mind and disregarding my previous provocations, i am asking this question complete earnestly. i'm not looking to again start something nor am i seeking to discredit you, check credentials or anything insidious by this question. merely curious because i see people stating that you are well vetted and your statements are accurate even though you only have a few posts here, so i am wondering if you went by other names, or if you post on other boards or even if you are a known person in real life?  

No hard feelings, this is just an anonymous message board on the internet.

Since most bodybuilding drugs are illegal, I do not feel comfortable giving out much information about myself or where the stacks I have posted come from or who is implementing them. I am well acquainted with the upper echelon of competitive bodybuilding.

[no one]

i don't know what i did to make you so upset to result in such pathetic attempts to infeebly insult me, i mean, at this point you are just editing prior posts of mine and cutting words out of them as well as blatantly making things up. i think it's hilarious because i can't imagine how pathetic a person would have to stoop to these levels over internet-honor, or whatever it is in your mind that is compelling you (maybe it is unrequited love, lol) but speaking in total earnesty, i am laughing at you at this point so you may want to try another approach in attempting to garner my affection.

ill stick with this one. thanks.

[no one]

He`s proven he can read books and parrot info...........oh yeah,he can use big words too. 

hes the next fat panda im telling you!!!

something about him just doesnt 'jive'.

i cant wait till this twink gets exposed- they all do in time. and it will be monumentally epic as it always is.

[farrellzach]

hes the next fat panda im telling you!!!

something about him just doesnt 'jive'.

i cant wait till this twink gets exposed- they all do in time. and it will be monumentally epic as it always is.

[no one]

which differs from sub-cut injections how, exactly?

also, why exactly are you suggesting supplementation of t3 on gh when gh doesn't reduce t3 levels but increases deiodinases which subsequently increases t4 to t3 conversion and reduces reverse t3 so t3 rates elevate and as a result tsh drops to keep t3 levels in nominal. most of the side effects people get from growth hormone are due to an increase in prolactin levels, which can be remedied by dopamine agonists or mucuna pruriens.

go away bfg

I have to admit, I find it comical that you think velvet beans from vitamin shoppe can combat the side effects of 40iu's of GH.

 

dont pay him any attention. hes a lonely kid trying to fit in.

[tbombz]

To become pro size here are the necessary factors, in order of importance:

1. Food
2. Drugs
3. Genetics
4. Training
5. Sleep

In regards to dietary advice, 99 percent of guys who never reach their true potential no matter how many drugs they take fall short due to simply not eating enough. The effect of grams of hormones and large quantities of GH has on metabolism is profound. Add in insulin which will inevitably exponentially increase your overall caloric intake due to the new carbohydrate demands and you can be expected to eat around 8-10,000 calories per day.

A high carbohydrate, high protein and moderate fat diet is ideal and then if gains are not consistent, slowly adding in more fat sources to every meal. In terms of numbers, I am talking 600-700 grams of carbohydrates per day, 500-600 grams of protein per day and around 300-400 grams of fat. A couple fast food meals every day is a great way to keep the calories high, try to eat 2lbs of burger meat from fast food every day (i.e. 2 meals per day would consist of 2 double quarter pounders per fast food meal). Protein sources should mainly be from red meat and whole eggs. Carbohydrate sources should be primarily oatmeal, brown and white rice, pasta. Fat sources will mostly be obtained through the red meat and whole eggs but additional fat sources such as macademia nut oil or extra virgin olive oil is ideal.

In terms of training, I do not recommend training more than 4 days per week and for most, 3 days would be optimal. Do not do countless sets and reps of isolation exercises. Use compound exercises to lift heavy weights to failure and then rest.

LMAO

[jude2]

LMAO

Why?

[JZMB]

bfg is a classy guy  

bfg = big fuckin gorilla = kai greene

dismised ,,

LMAO

bfg just owned the little kid justin biber
IMO just another little attention whore trying to fit in the bodybuilding context by saying at evry single post that he uses a massive dose of all kind of bodybuildng drugs lol such a joke