Nassoil was loading his bis, delts, calves and lats from as early as 95...its obvious. He never had and standout bodyparts, and never had that rounded, detailed 3D look that the elite BBers possessed ...he was big, very big...but that's all he had going for him...and he had a pathetic back. He was placed correctly...you guys can cry in your beer all night...he wasn't that good