Nasser Dwarfs Kevin!!..

[el numero uno]

When did Steve Carell compete?

Haha!

[bigbobs]

Do we have to do this again..? Post their head to head stats and show that kevin routinely beat Nasser for years ?

what does "when he was ON" mean...when he won the contest? LOLOLOLOL...my god you guys are thick

I'm sure you're smart enough to understand the difference between discussing who is better at their best vs. who maintained their best look for more years but your posts seem to prove me wrong 

Nasser was ' ON ' in 1995 and lost to Kevin

He was still improving, wasn't at his best.

[bigbobs]

strength + good shape is what i care about..

These are actually two very good criteria and you excel in both!  Should even modify strength to "strength / bodyweight" which you probably have the best of in all of getbig and combine that with Arab genetics, good looks, family man, etc. makes you untouchable!
 

[bigbobs]

I'm sure Kevin, Flex , Ronnie and Dorian were all petrified as their names were all called ahead of Nasser's on a regular basis 

lol I noticed you modified your post after I pointd out that Kevin lost in the show of the picture you posted to now say "kevin, Flex, Ronnie and Dorian."  Except for Dorian who only did the first three shows, the rest of the names you mentioned also lost to Nasser in the 96 GP shows.

[Palpatine Q]

I'm sure you're smart enough to understand the difference between discussing who is better at their best vs. who maintained their best look for more years but your posts seem to prove me wrong 

He was still improving, wasn't at his best.

Levrone has 4 2nd place Mr Olympia finishes to Nasser's 1...and a better average finish

Levrone has more grand prix victories...and a better average finish

Levrone has more Arnold classic victories....and a better average finish

Head to head Levrone bested him regularly

No matter how you slice it... Levrone was better.

and your argument is ...'yeah but when Nasser was better, he was REALLY, REALLY better"  

you guys are fucking brainwashed...it's retarded

[Parker]

lol Dillet's back was worse than nasser's, even though nasser gets a hard time for his back.  Plus Nasser was bigger than paul despite the height disadvantage.   They shouldn't even really be put in the same sentence together.

I actually was referring to what Swami had said, which is a valid point...as far Dillet's back, that is the exact reason why they should be in the same sentence...they both had shitty backs. As far as their weight, Dillet looked more impressive due to his shape and small waist, making him look more "cartoony".

[bigbobs]

Levrone has 4 2nd place Mr Olympia finishes to Nasser's 1...and a better average finish

Levrone has more grand prix victories...and a better average finish

Levrone has more Arnold classic victories....and a better average finish

Head to head Levrone bested him regularly

No matter how you slice it... Levrone was better.

and your argument is ...'yeah but when Nasser was better, he was REALLY, REALLY better"  

you guys are fucking brainwashed...it's retarded

Guess I overestimated your intelligence in my earlier post but you proved me wrong.

I'm sure you're smart enough to understand the difference between discussing who is better at their best vs. who maintained their best look for more years

By the way picking stats you can say Francois was shit because he never even had a single top 6 finish.  Just giving an example.

[bigbobs]

I actually was referring to what Swami had said, which is a valid point...as far Dillet's back, that is the exact reason why they should be in the same sentence...they both had shitty backs. As far as their weight, Dillet looked more impressive due to his shape and small waist, making him look more "cartoony".

Yet he routinely lost to Nasser once Nasser grew passed 250 lbs?  

BTW I chatted with Paul for quite a while after his retirement because he was at a local supplement store for promotion a few years ago and he's a pretty friendly, down to earth guy...he himself would not even claim to look better than Nasser.

[Palpatine Q]

lol I noticed you modified your post after I pointd out that Kevin lost in the show of the picture you posted to now say "kevin, Flex, Ronnie and Dorian."  Except for Dorian who only did the first three shows, the rest of the names you mentioned also lost to Nasser in the 96 GP shows.

Yeah I modified it after you posted how "scary" it must have been to see Nasser backstage...and i pointed out that these guys probably weren't so scared  

If you want to focus on one fucking contest i could pick one of MANY that Levrone beat Nasser and write ridiculous paragraph after paragraph about how "dominant" Levrone was that day  

I'm actually embarrased that an intelligent, grown ass man such as yourself makes such a fool of himself  sticking up for his Hero in bodybuilding contests from 15 years ago

[Palpatine Q]

Guess I overestimated your intelligence in my earlier post but you proved me wrong.

By the way picking stats you can say Francois was shit because he never even had a single top 6 finish.  Just giving an example.

Really? ......dispute one stat  they aren't cherry picked..they encompass their entire careers

who cares about Francois...that's not the subject here.....moving the goalposts are we ? 

[bigbobs]

Yeah I modified it after you posted how "scary" it must have been to see Nasser backstage...and i pointed out that these guys probably weren't so scared  

If you want to focus on one fucking contest i could pick one of MANY that Levrone beat Nasser and write ridiculous paragraph after paragraph about how "dominant" Levrone was that day  

I'm actually embarrased that an intelligent, grown ass man such as yourself makes such a fool of himself  sticking up for his Hero in bodybuilding contests from 15 years ago

K to further explain the argument here (not sure why I have to but that's besides the point), pick when you think levrone was at his best and compare that to a 96 Nasser - that would make sense in the discussion of who was better at their best.  

And its a pro bodybuilder himself who said how "intimidating" Nasser looked when he was "on" and he's a better judge of it than you or me.

[bigbobs]

Really? ......dispute one stat  they aren't cherry picked..they encompass their entire careers

who cares about Francois...that's not the subject here.....moving the goalposts are we ? 

nope just trying to explain how looking at a few or even overall stats does not contribute at all to the point that was raised in this thread.

[Palpatine Q]

K to further explain the argument here (not sure why I have to but that's besides the point), pick when you think levrone was at his best and compare that to a 96 Nasser - that would make sense in the discussion of who was better at their best.  

And its a pro bodybuilder himself who said how "intimidating" Nasser looked when he was "on" and he's a better judge of it than you or me.

it's not necessary ...I think Levrone was head and shoulders better than Nasser...in any contest they were both in shape, and at their respective "bests"....you don't..and i'm not going to waste my breath arguing opinions...the STATISTICS support my argument, overwhelmingly.  

[bigbobs]

it's not necessary ...I think Levrone was head and shoulders better than Nasser...in any contest they were both in shape, and at their respective "bests"....you don't..and i'm not going to waste my breath arguing opinions...the STATISTICS support my argument, overwhelmingly.  

statistics don't prove anything when it comes to comparing who was better at their best Unless both bodybuilders were at their best in the same show

Agreed on the not going to convince each other part so its pointless to take this pages and pages like a few others tend to 

[Palpatine Q]

statistics don't prove anything when it comes to comparing who was better at their best Unless both bodybuilders were at their best in the same show

Agreed on the not going to convince each other part so its pointless to take this pages and pages like a few others tend to  

Statistics prove plenty. they both competed in the same era in dozens of competitions, there is a HUGE well from which to draw conclusions..

you make it as if they are bodybuilders from different eras, the fact is Levrone regularly beat him on any given day...what shape he brought to the contest is irrelevant...it was a major show and they  were both there to WIN...and kevin did more than Nasser.....end of story

You want to skew it so the only shows that MATTER are the ones where Nasser was at his absolute best...it doesn't work that way 

[NarcissisticDeity]

I'm sure you're smart enough to understand the difference between discussing who is better at their best vs. who maintained their best look for more years but your posts seem to prove me wrong 

He was still improving, wasn't at his best.

He wasn't improving because he looked his best at the 1995 Houston Pro , he was ON and lost to Kevin.

[bigbobs]

He wasn't improving because he looked his best at the 1995 Houston Pro , he was ON and lost to Kevin.

He was on in 95 but improved in 96 IMO.

[GigantorX]

So I take it that no-one really, actually looked at Nasser in the photo?

Some things seem a bit, oh I don't know, off.

[BILL ANVIL]

Statistics prove plenty. they both competed in the same era in dozens of competitions, there is a HUGE well from which to draw conclusions..

you make it as if they are bodybuilders from different eras, the fact is Levrone regularly beat him on any given day...what shape he brought to the contest is irrelevant...it was a major show and they  were both there to WIN...and kevin did more than Nasser.....end of story

Bodybuilding is a matter of opinion one guy sees a masterpiece the other guy sees a disaster blah blah blah this has been argued to hell and back. And Kevin got by on genetics mainly, they saved his ass when he came in 'off' on numerous occasions.

[Palpatine Q]

Bodybuilding is a matter of opinion one guy sees a masterpiece the other guy sees a disaster blah blah blah this has been argued to hell and back. And Kevin got by on genetics mainly, they saved his ass when he came in 'off' on numerous occasions.

and what did Nasser "get by on" ? 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Guess I overestimated your intelligence in my earlier post but you proved me wrong.

By the way picking stats you can say Francois was shit because he never even had a single top 6 finish.  Just giving an example.

He never had a top 6 finish? in what the Olympia? because he won his first 3 pro shows which speaks volumes.

[bigbobs]

He never had a top 6 finish? in what the Olympia? because he won his first 3 pro shows which speaks volumes.

Exactly my point!  Using certain statistics can be misleading

[Palpatine Q]

It seems these Nasser guys all have the same view...

"Nasser was a mass monster and we like him...so there"

and when you post a barrage of contest placings that show he was bested by quite a few bodybuilders...they say it again  

[NarcissisticDeity]

Exactly my point!  Using certain statistics can be misleading

We don't need to use ' certain statistics ' when comparing Kevin to Nasser because , Kevin just about smokes him everywhere

[NarcissisticDeity]

He was on in 95 but improved in 96 IMO.

I don't think so