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« on: December 23, 2011, 07:16:41 AM »

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The U.S. troop withdrawal leaves behind a country embittered by an occupation that's cost thousands of lives and billions of dollars. And as U.S. soldiers return home for Christmas, the mood is far from joyful among veterans struggling to deal with the personal aftermath of the war. With soaring suicide rates, it's still too early to estimate the true cost of the invasion. Our correspondent Liz Wall reports.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmH0PF1IiaI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmH0PF1IiaI</a>
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2011, 07:19:41 AM »

Did they create that Russia Today news station specifically to troll the USA? lol Those Russians have nothing to say when it comes anything regarding morals or ethics in reporting and aything else for that matter. You should be ashamed of yourself for even watching that shit.
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2011, 07:23:27 AM »

How does war make u wanna kill yourself?
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2011, 07:25:16 AM »

How does war make u wanna kill yourself?

seriously?

America seems to be notorious for not giving a fuck about soldiers when they get back. Only when getting them to leave. Or have I gotten the wrong impression? gotten that impression from movies and all he damn charities which shouldn't imo be necessary at all. if you spend 200 million a day on a damn war for 10 years you should put a side a few million for the people that get home and needs help.

I dont like war and that shit still pisses me of.
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2011, 07:51:51 AM »

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The U.S. troop withdrawal leaves behind a country embittered by an occupation that's cost thousands of lives and billions of dollars. And as U.S. soldiers return home for Christmas, the mood is far from joyful among veterans struggling to deal with the personal aftermath of the war. With soaring suicide rates, it's still too early to estimate the true cost of the invasion. Our correspondent Liz Wall reports.
Am I missing something - were they forced to be soldiers and slaughter 100,000's of civilians - Are they disapointed they didn't bag enough towel heads.  Oh, and by the way, it wasnt a war, it was a massacre of disturbing and sickening nature - Americans will be hated for eternities to come.  I'm Australian, and I hate the fact we allied with the must psychotic nation on Earth who has a sadistic greedy need to rape and pillage the most vulnerable people in the world.
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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2011, 07:56:47 AM »

This only proves  that war is not natural, just an evil and selfish stunt created through man. Just utter madness.
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« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2011, 08:02:04 AM »

This only proves  that war is not natural, just an evil and selfish stunt created through man. Just utter madness.

killing toddlers isn't natural either that's for sure..

http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-mainmenu-26/asia-mainmenu-33/8838-reports-us-troops-killed-5-children-in-iraq-raid

"mong them were 28-year-old farmer Faiz Khalaf, his young wife, and all three of their children — aged five, three, and five months. Khalaf’s 74-year-old mother, his sister, and his two nieces — five and three years old — were also killed after being placed in handcuffs,"


http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/08/31/122789/wikileaks-iraqi-children-in-us.html

"Iraqi children in U.S. raid shot in head, U.N. says"

and people doesn't understand how american presence makes the taliban stronger :/
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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2011, 08:04:13 AM »

does russia today report on the their exploits in Chechnya?
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« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2011, 08:06:27 AM »

killing toddlers isn't natural either that's for sure..

http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-mainmenu-26/asia-mainmenu-33/8838-reports-us-troops-killed-5-children-in-iraq-raid

"mong them were 28-year-old farmer Faiz Khalaf, his young wife, and all three of their children — aged five, three, and five months. Khalaf’s 74-year-old mother, his sister, and his two nieces — five and three years old — were also killed after being placed in handcuffs,"

Yeah I've seen that, don't change the subject all of a sudden.

Lol @ everyone who thinks war is a necessity in humanity to make profit and money  Roll Eyes

Anyone watched the southpark episode where aliens brang fake space money to the planet? All of a sudden nations started building new hospitals and factorys, theme parks etc etc etc. money was glooming. But the aliens told them that it's not space money, just worthless junk and that people gave the space junk the value they wanted to give it , nothing more.

war is just plain evil, nothing more.
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« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2011, 08:16:42 AM »

Yeah I've seen that, don't change the subject all of a sudden.

Lol @ everyone who thinks war is a necessity in humanity to make profit and money  Roll Eyes

Anyone watched the southpark episode where aliens brang fake space money to the planet? All of a sudden nations started building new hospitals and factorys, theme parks etc etc etc. money was glooming. But the aliens told them that it's not space money, just worthless junk and that people gave the space junk the value they wanted to give it , nothing more.

war is just plain evil, nothing more.

Brang? Wtf?


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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2011, 08:17:55 AM »

Yeah I've seen that, don't change the subject all of a sudden.

Lol @ everyone who thinks war is a necessity in humanity to make profit and money  Roll Eyes

Anyone watched the southpark episode where aliens brang fake space money to the planet? All of a sudden nations started building new hospitals and factorys, theme parks etc etc etc. money was glooming. But the aliens told them that it's not space money, just worthless junk and that people gave the space junk the value they wanted to give it , nothing more.

war is just plain evil, nothing more.


Isn't it funny how South Park has a more objective and reliable point of view than many news sources.
They should make South Park TV and have a Cartman news anchor make the news hilarious.
 
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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2011, 08:24:40 AM »

How does war make u wanna kill yourself?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posttraumatic_stress_disorder
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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2011, 08:35:08 AM »

The vast majority of US soldiers are good people. However, many are semi-iliterate morons who entered the armed services be tehy could not get a job anywhere else.

So they get a gun and some "authority" and watch out. They act with little supervision in these ass backwards countries and think that they are superior. therefore, they feel they can steal, rape and kill.

once they return home. they are still idiots with no prospect of getting a job. So they start drinking heavy and blame PTSD. The government has to spend our money on already - billionaires, so they treat them like shit and BOOM....9 mm facial.

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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2011, 08:42:46 AM »

Did they create that Russia Today news station specifically to troll the USA? lol Those Russians have nothing to say when it comes anything regarding morals or ethics in reporting and aything else for that matter. You should be ashamed of yourself for even watching that shit.

Yea.... as if fukin Fox News wasn't solely for bashing Russians..  Roll Eyes

They fukin' showed video of street riots in Greece and claimed them being from Moscow!! what a great neutral news station  Cheesy
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« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2011, 08:50:02 AM »

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The U.S. troop withdrawal leaves behind a country embittered by an occupation that's cost thousands of lives and billions of dollars. And as U.S. soldiers return home for Christmas, the mood is far from joyful among veterans struggling to deal with the personal aftermath of the war. With soaring suicide rates, it's still too early to estimate the true cost of the invasion. Our correspondent Liz Wall reports.
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmH0PF1IiaI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmH0PF1IiaI</a>

It's no different than any other war genius. BTW, a day or two after your "president" pulled the troops out of Iraq the country is imploding.
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« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2011, 09:06:17 AM »

Yea.... as if fukin Fox News wasn't solely for bashing Russians..  Roll Eyes

They fukin' showed video of street riots in Greece and claimed them being from Moscow!! what a great neutral news station  Cheesy

I am talking about RT news as a news station. Not fox cnn bbc.... but RT, where did i bring in FOX? where did i say america is the greatest and russia sux? stay on topic for a second. it can be hard cause RPGs and Kalashnikovs are loads of fun to worship. look at RTs youtube channel...every story is negative about the USA lol.
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« Reply #16 on: December 23, 2011, 09:36:52 AM »

It's no different than any other war genius. BTW, a day or two after your "president" pulled the troops out of Iraq the country is imploding.
Still maintaining your Mexican citizenship, eh Theo Juan?
You are just mad that Obama's looking to deport your dumb ass back to Guadalajara and you have to live your life on the run. Grin We need immigrants with advanced degrees who can help America grow and continue to innovate, not idiots like you who can be replaced by a well-trained armadillo.

No one but you and a handful of your moronic Bush-loving neo-cons want America to still be in Iraq.  Roll Eyes If they blow themselves up, that's their problem and they are going to have to solve it. Fuck 'em...after nine years, we're done.
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« Reply #17 on: December 23, 2011, 09:44:02 AM »

This only proves  that war is not natural, just an evil and selfish stunt created through man. Just utter madness.

War should only be done to protect life. The point of the wars led by americans in the middle east is to destroy the islamist, terrorist threat, radical islam, to implement outposts right in the middle of the muslim world and to push nearby societies to choose "democracy". And to secure access to cheaper oil. There are several main ideologies fighting each others in the world, but ultimately they ll all form a global, unique ideology/philosophy/faith. The point is to christianize the whole planet, or else it would become muslim or communist.

 Back on subject,the fact is some people can deal with killing, seeing death, and others cant. Mostly because they dont have faith. Those with faith can justify their actions and fight. Those who dont believe in what they do will struggle to justify it afterwards, thinking it is or was absurd. The us army is so big a lot of soldiers arent really ready for what they re going to see and feel, even if they pass the recruitment tests. Also having a weak family structure, being uneducated, having no faith doesnt help either. Most of them kill themselves because the army is their family, and they have nothing else to do in life, they are useless when they re not soldiers. Some people can explain, justify to themselves, why they see what they re seeing, or do what they do. It's a lot easier to wage a war when you have faith, it acts as a shield. People who have no faith have lot more troubles dealing with what they see or do, as they dont understand the meaning of life. They re immature. Most come from shity families. Faith is required to do genuine good and deal with evil without being destroyed by it.

It's very very complicated cause tons of factors are at work, but let's just say that a lot of people wear army uniforms but arent soldiers.

You have guys destroyed by their war experience, and others who are strenghtened by it, even when joing the civilian society once they re done with the army. Lot of soldiers survived ww2 and became some of the most contributing to society individuals this last half century.
I guess good people become good soldiers and survive wars, while bad, evil, unfaithful people are destroyed by it.
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« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2011, 12:17:28 PM »

Still maintaining your Mexican citizenship, eh Theo Juan?
You are just mad that Obama's looking to deport your dumb ass back to Guadalajara and you have to live your life on the run. Grin We need immigrants with advanced degrees who can help America grow and continue to innovate, not idiots like you who can be replaced by a well-trained armadillo.

No one but you and a handful of your moronic Bush-loving neo-cons want America to still be in Iraq.  Roll Eyes If they blow themselves up, that's their problem and they are going to have to solve it. Fuck 'em...after nine years, we're done.

And to think your argument is STILL no argument.
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« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2011, 12:43:29 PM »


Isn't it funny how South Park has a more objective and reliable point of view than many news sources.
They should make South Park TV and have a Cartman news anchor make the news hilarious.
 
No, it's a way two passive-aggresive losers can make fun of people and get away with it...one can't keep a woman, and the other wanted to say some ish about Islam, but lost his balls...and I bet if you made fun of his kid, he'd be really pissed...

Besides, if you think South Park is very objective---it says a lot about our education system here in America.
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« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2011, 01:39:44 PM »

How does war make u wanna kill yourself?

Could you imagine being around dead bodies a lot, in a constant state of panic because you don't know what could happen i.e. land mines, suicide bombers, anyone with a gun. It would fucking destroy you until you were very mentally strong.
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« Reply #21 on: December 23, 2011, 01:43:31 PM »


Isn't it funny how South Park has a more objective and reliable point of view than many news sources.
They should make South Park TV and have a Cartman news anchor make the news hilarious.
 

I remember that episode it was very good, with the Alien criminal and Alien Police.

When the Alien Police land looking for the criminal and they deny seeing him 'Isn't this the first time you've seen an Alien? Shouldn't you be in more shock?' 'Oh hey everyone look, it's Aliens, wow!'

It was a play on an old Star Trek Episode of First Contact when a planet discovers warp speed (i am not a Trekkie by any means but i can watch some)

I saw a South Park Episode the other day where Cartman pretends he has Tourette's syndrome, i could not stop laughing it was amazing.
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« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2011, 02:48:17 PM »

How does war make u wanna kill yourself?

Post Traumatic Stress disorder is no joke
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« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2011, 02:49:05 PM »

This only proves  that war is not natural, just an evil and selfish stunt created through man. Just utter madness.

Good post.
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« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2011, 02:49:39 PM »

 ptsd
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