Combating sides and helping manage high dose gear

[The Wizard of Truth]

Ok so I thought it would be a good idea to start this thread about how we have our own methods of combating the side effects caused by gear, and other things we take to help our progression in bodybuilding.

1. Anxiety
Xanax or efexor xl work very well, Xanax are supposedly addictive though

2. Cholesterol
One guy here uses niacin each night, I use lecithin granules in my food twice a day and cholesterol is ideal

3. Eating more
Marijuana is used by many pros but a lot of us have fulltime jobs and can't go around stoned 24\7, gh15 recommends digestive enzymes with each meal and I like pineapple with each meal

4. Liver protection
Milk thistle as far as I know is most people's choice

5. Kidney protection
I dunno, I'd like some insight here

6. Low sex drive
Proviron at 100mg a day will sort this out

7. Spots
Never get them myself but light spots could be solved by sunbed use, heavy spot problems might take roactane

Feel free to add your own things to this thread

[ironneck]

is low sex drive the result of any roid except testo?

[The Wizard of Truth]

Deca in nandrolone decanoate form kills my sex drive, nandralone phenlypropionate and I've no problem

[ironneck]

i wanted to try tren for my planned cycle but gonna start with a friend of mine and hes to scared because of the libido thing so we agreed on testo

[kreator]

i wanted to try tren for my planned cycle but gonna start with a friend of mine and hes to scared because of the libido thing so we agreed on testo

i thought tren was supposed to make you a sexual T-rex

[ironneck]

ive read that tren makes your libido go to zero thats why most people stack it with testo

[notsureifsrs]

Cholesterol, lipids etc... -
all what you mentioned above + Fish oil

Liver protection -
Pineapple juice
Cranberry juice

Eating more -
all what you mentioned above + less 'clean' food


Low sex drive -
Proviron starting from the low 25mg (if legit it will do the job)
high dose of test
gh15 recommended once to use halo in this case

Spots -
B5, peroxide Benzoyl

[Omega]

Kidneys - Liv 52
Heart - CQ10

[SamsonD]

I eat a can of pinneaple bits almost every morning and it keeps me cleaned out and hungry the rest of the day it seems like.  I have a glass or two of orange and pinneaple juice also per day.

GH helps almost completely with trensomnia.  If you have legit tren your dick will be hard all day long.

I don't get anxiety from tren or EQ, athough I do get pretty aggressive if my test is high and or on tren.  I use jedi fucking mind tricks and deep breathing to get over that shit though.

[WillGrant]

ive read that tren makes your libido go to zero thats why most people stack it with testo

You wont know till you try mate.. Long esters give me limp dick so test and tren e but fast esters like test prop and tren A give me 24/7 wood and want to fuck any girl that moves - same drug but differing effect , lots say this is not possible but it happens to me and I know lots of other guys that have the same issue.. Cialis is good when using long esters but not needed with short ones 


Anyone know of anything to combat painful pumps in the forearms/hands ? First time Im upto 600mg of tren A - have always stayed at 400mg because of sides but third exercise into my back/chest workout tonight and I couldnt pick up the DBs on 2nd set of inclines , pump was so painful  - if theres nothing then I'll have to drop back to 400mgs 

[deceiver]

What about high bp and excess bloat?

[DK II]

What about high bp and excess bloat?

Cardio and eating less carbs should help.

[The Wizard of Truth]

What about high bp and excess bloat?

Arimidex helps me with bloat but I never get high bp so I can't help you there man

[Cleanest Natural]

I was never able to cope with sides when I tried bid dosages .. some people cope better. I ain't one of them. Viagra.. pain killers ... you falln into narcotics and it's just a fucked up cult.

You basically switch your body to run on synthetic everything just to look a certain way. Think about it honest long and hard and tell me if it is not retarded to do that to yourself.

[The Wizard of Truth]

I know it's retarded, but hey we all have our insanities. Some of my friends fight Mma and the injuries and shit they go through and they don't even get paid and will never make the UFC. We all have to have our stupid shit, normality is wrong

[L.L]

excellent post Imako..im one of those who take niacin and a baby aspirin  nightly...no low sex drive here becasue i dont fuck with progestins..also besides proviron , a low dose of stan  daily or eod will free up test big time. I think it does a much better job than proviron if you ask me

[L.L]

What about high bp and excess bloat?

for high bp ,the  natural way 2 go is to take Hawthorne Berry and for the bloat aromasin at 12.5 eod does the job for me...also clean your diet, and drink at least a gallon of water daily, fatty..

[Borracho]

Ok so I thought it would be a good idea to start this thread about how we have our own methods of combating the side effects caused by gear, and other things we take to help our progression in bodybuilding.

1. Anxiety
Xanax or efexor xl work very well, Xanax are supposedly addictive though

2. Cholesterol
One guy here uses niacin each night, I use lecithin granules in my food twice a day and cholesterol is ideal

3. Eating more
Marijuana is used by many pros but a lot of us have fulltime jobs and can't go around stoned 24\7, gh15 recommends digestive enzymes with each meal and I like pineapple with each meal

4. Liver protection
Milk thistle as far as I know is most people's choice

5. Kidney protection
I dunno, I'd like some insight here

6. Low sex drive
Proviron at 100mg a day will sort this out

7. Spots
Never get them myself but light spots could be solved by sunbed use, heavy spot problems might take roactane

Feel free to add your own things to this thread

WATER

[local hero]

baby asprin or the coated 75mg asprin is the only thing i use along side a cycle...


some of what has been mentioned can cause problems in its self, milk thistle is also toxic

[deadz]

Lower cholesterol with Red Yeast Rice. Mine went from 220 to 170 in three months.
Fish oil to help raise HDL

Kidney Health-Maintain BP

Liver Health- Milk thistle

Acne-Reduce DHT

Hair Loss- Propecia

Prostate-Saw Palmetto

[BIG_STI]

Doesn't Niacin become liver toxic after a few weeks?

[Big Worm]

i wanted to try tren for my planned cycle but gonna start with a friend of mine and hes to scared because of the libido thing so we agreed on testo

You guys and your Phucking drugs..I take this to fix that bvllsh!t.! Look good for the ladies,but my d!ck is broken..? LOL.. How about work out hard and everything is normal..?

[chaos]

Lol...I'm all for people doing whatever they want but damn I'm glad I never used steroids, reading about all the shit you have to take and do just for temporary gains is insane.

Fuck that noise!

[Swlabr]

good...thread...thanks.. .a...lot...

[che]

Lol...I'm all for people doing whatever they want but damn I'm glad I never used steroids, reading about all the shit you have to take and do just for temporary gains is insane.

Fuck that noise!

X 2 .
 I've never used steroids because I was always terrified of the side effects and I'm not talking about ,high blood pressure ,heart ,liver  or kidney problems ....etc .  I'm talking about  acne , losing my hair , stretch marks, varicose veins .....etc .

Vain much