Brazil overtakes UK as sixth-largest economy

[Tito24]

the economy of infidels

[OptimusPrime1980]

the thing that ruins brazil is corruption... there is money... it just goes in the pockets of the politicians....
it happens on regional level, state level and nationwide level...
but! it is growing as a country... fast....
and europe and the usa are crashing... lol... really fun to watch from a dictance... 
i mean the usa lives on borrowed money from China... lol even brazil central bank has a large portion of us treasure as does uk and japan...
about 47% of us debt is in forreign hands if i'm not mistaken...what if they want their money back all at once??
europe was helped a lot by the IMF, which lended it money, a large portion of this money was Brazilian.

[NeilGM]

the thing that ruins brazil is corruption... there is money... it just goes in the pockets of the politicians....
it happens on regional level, state level and nationwide level...
but! it is growing as a country... fast....
and europe and the usa are crashing... lol... really fun to watch from a dictance... 
i mean the usa lives on borrowed money from China... lol even brazil central bank has a large portion of us treasure as does uk and japan...
about 47% of us debt is in forreign hands if i'm not mistaken...what if they want their money back all at once??
europe was helped a lot by the IMF, which lended it money, a large portion of this money was Brazilian.

The debt is irrelivent it could be wiped out over night should they so choose, it is only numbers on a screen remember. This is only a bubble. Uk, USA and even EU would wage war on countries like brazil should they have an advantage over them. Just remember who is buying all the oil off them, what in international language is and what currency they all use to do this.

[Red Hook]

The debt is irrelivent it could be wiped out over night should they so choose, it is only numbers on a screen remember. This is only a bubble. Uk, USA and even EU would wage war on countries like brazil should they have an advantage over them. Just remember who is buying all the oil off them, what in international language is and what currency they all use to do this.

Brazil is an interesting place, I saw a recent report on 60 minutes that details that rate of growth and it is astronomical.

Also, everyone seems to forget that they had to default on their loans in order to move forward. That is a distant advantage over other countries that saddled with similar loans. Oil, Oil, Oil and cheap labor for the ever expanding agricultural exports. The US is a dieing economy and the population needs to prepare a Spain like fall.

The US need to buy US produced goods.
We need a $3+ surcharge on gas, this will force people to buy more efficient cars and speed up the adoption of electric cars.
Reduce military spending by 2% each year for the next 10 years.

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

Means sweet fuck all really, people still have no money for shoes over there, live in huts. Its not how much money you have it is how you use it to create. They need to invest heavily into creating sustainable jobs and technology if they are to survive. The Saudi's are doing a good job of this but given 20 -40 years or so when their reserves are up because they are raping their supplys, you watch how quickly they slip down the ladder. All them fancy holiday destinations will not account for anything when that oil drys up. All the same these emerging oil countries, they will have a few good years until the oil starts to dry up. All the big reserves are in the poles, lets face it they arn't going to get anywhere near them places as there are a few old age countries with big military equipment saying fuck off that's ours. The west has a huge lead on these countries in time, experiance and technology, there are many ideas already in the pipe line to replace oil, it's just at the moment oil is soo cheap and everything is geared up around it. I bet most of these countries like Brazil and Saudi fuck it up with poor investments and all the riches get distrubuted around a few people and fancy buldings.

Lets look at it in a logical sense. Oil & Gas is cheap as hell to drill... The innitial out lay maybe getting higher but when they invest $400,000,000 into a well that has 23,000,000,000 barrells at $100 a barrell.. well you do the maths. This stuff is not running out any time soon there is loads of it. The largest supplies have yet to be found and these are going to be controlled by the countries with big guns, lets face it, when it comes down to it if a country needs it, it will do anything to get it. Can you see the Saudi's winning a fight with EU, UK, USA, Russia or China? Nope not a chance.
So lets imagine a day when the cost of drilling outways the cost to produce something like hydrogen gas, then guess what we will be using that. All you need is water, initial power and a big machine and you got allot of energy that can be used (with upgrades) for fuel in homes, cars, powerplants etc.
Now lets imagine a country such as Brazil finds that much oil under its feet that it can disrupt the distrubution of power from lets say the USA... what will happen? One of two things if not both:

1) Properganda.. Some "Brazilian Extreamist" will attack the USA killing thosands of innoccent civilians or something simular and the USA have no choice but to wipe them off the map with its huge arsnal of weapons and claim its lands as its own to help "rebuild" their country etc etc and take all the oil.

2) They will just pull something out of the hat that is cheaper to produce than it is to drill and now oil becomes something of the past other than for industrial applications.

Brazil should have more money than the UK as there are 3 times as many people who can work etc but yet it has only just over taken in. The only reason these countries have cars, mobile phones, internet etc is because the west introduced it to them to expand. They use our systems and use or technologys to "better" them selves. They will never and I repeat never be in control of anything. They will have more say in the world and have bigger economies but that doesn't mean a thing when the person who is telling you what to do is pointing a loaded gun. They will not head the table when globalisation comes into play

System/ technology? could you be more specific? Well if Brazil uses that it is because they have the money to do it... or do you think its free? most of America stuff was created by foreigners that came to America after war.

 Loaded gun? guess you never heard about BRIC.  bring it on.

 

The debt is irrelivent it could be wiped out over night should they so choose, it is only numbers on a screen remember. This is only a bubble. Uk, USA and even EU would wage war on countries like brazil should they have an advantage over them. Just remember who is buying all the oil off them, what in international language is and what currency they all use to do this.

 Did you forgot about the  Nixon, OPEP deal?

 Do you know why Sadan was killed? he was pushing to have gold as an currency to buy oil.

 What do you think if the countries that hold the oil suddenly drops the dollar and start using gold.

 Do you have enough gold?

 What country depend the most in Oil? can not spread democracy without money and oil. sorry.

 Do you think America is the only country that can pay for oil? oil can be sell to anybody... the line for oil its huge.


 Btw: stop melting.
 

[G_Thang]

Another Brasil thread  .  Just save Fernanda for me.

 

[OptimusPrime1980]

The debt is irrelivent it could be wiped out over night should they so choose, it is only numbers on a screen remember. This is only a bubble. Uk, USA and even EU would wage war on countries like brazil should they have an advantage over them. Just remember who is buying all the oil off them, what in international language is and what currency they all use to do this.

the debt can be wiped out overnight???/ lolol!
sure if these countries want their money back overnight usa has a big problem.
and EU = bankrupt man.... you will see... lending money to cripple countries who will never pay back was a dumb thing to do!
yes usa buys oil from brazil.... so? brazil can be selfsufficient with there oil.... usa??? well no! and there are  always cutomers for oil dude....
also brazil has a growing ethanol industry.
and international language?? lol.... what does that have to do with it??? there are 2 btw... english and spanish.
and it's english, not american btw... your language is raped british english
currency?? yeah they are so happy with the dollar ..... euro sucks to... it's all falling down.
but i can pay here with the euro no problem... they rather have the euro btw.
 

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Brazil may just be the place to move to.  Hey I even would have a chance to get laid there for free.  I don't see the economy here in the U.S. improving but rather it'll continue tanking.  It's the sold off politicians serving the rich and the bankers.

Very high levels of Toxoplasmosis in Brazil. There's a shit load of "spraying" going on in the skies of Brazil. The Hierarchy is trying to kill off half of the population there one way or another.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/08/080814154437.htm