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Ron Paul Right..AGain:"We(Israel) Can Defend Ourselves"
« on: December 26, 2011, 08:45:31 PM »
Again Ron Paul gets attacked and criticised for repeating what the Prime Minister of Israel clearly states here.


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Re: Ron Paul Right..AGain:"We(Israel) Can Defend Ourselves"
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2011, 11:18:44 PM »
Eye roll inb4 Seņora BB......  ::)

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Re: Ron Paul Right..AGain:"We(Israel) Can Defend Ourselves"
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2011, 11:55:56 PM »
i like his position.   Instead of trying ot keep iran down while they secretly build nukes...

You go in now and you make sure this shit doesn't happen for 100 years.
You let them do what they feel they need to do.

Do you think ANYONE could be stopping the USA from fucking up Mexico if they were shooting missiles into Texas?  Oh hellz no!

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Re: Ron Paul Right..AGain:"We(Israel) Can Defend Ourselves"
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2011, 04:43:10 AM »
This shit reminds me of an old Star Trek episode from the 60's, "A Private Little War."  If you don't know of it, it's oddly very appropriate to this discussion.

Backing someone up has numerous consequences.  Without our backing there could have been many other outcomes different than what we see today in the region.  As we stand today, we have a small country, Isreal, that is absolutely comfortable in making any decision it wants with our absolute backing--this absolutely has consequences.  Had Isreal been faced with their enemies on their own without our help there is actually a very good chance shit would be better off today.  They would be more compelled to use diplomacy and work out their issues.  As it stands today Israel feels like they don't have to give half an inch on jack shit and there's a reason for that... We got their back both financially and militarily and that also has consequences which blows back to us.

None of this crap would be a problem under Ron Paul's policy.


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Re: Ron Paul Right..AGain:"We(Israel) Can Defend Ourselves"
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2011, 04:42:49 PM »
This shit reminds me of an old Star Trek episode from the 60's, "A Private Little War."  If you don't know of it, it's oddly very appropriate to this discussion.

Backing someone up has numerous consequences.  Without our backing there could have been many other outcomes different than what we see today in the region.  As we stand today, we have a small country, Isreal, that is absolutely comfortable in making any decision it wants with our absolute backing--this absolutely has consequences.  Had Isreal been faced with their enemies on their own without our help there is actually a very good chance shit would be better off today.  They would be more compelled to use diplomacy and work out their issues.  As it stands today Israel feels like they don't have to give half an inch on jack shit and there's a reason for that... We got their back both financially and militarily and that also has consequences which blows back to us.

None of this crap would be a problem under Ron Paul's policy.






I think it's muddier than that.  Keep in mind, RP has no problems with us still being friends with Israel, he's just against our troops being over in that area.  And, to me at least, it's clear that Abu down at the falafel house still wants to dictate who we can and cannot be friends with.  If we're still trading with Israel and they're still our friends, I think it's still going to be viewed as support.  Maybe not, but I'm skeptical. 

At the very least, we can give RP's policy a chance, something it hasn't had.  If successful, then great. 

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Re: Ron Paul Right..AGain:"We(Israel) Can Defend Ourselves"
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2011, 10:36:24 PM »
U.S. presidential hopeful Ron Paul isn't anti-Israel, former aide says

Dr. Leon Hadar, an Israeli and U.S. citizen who advised the Republican presidential hopeful in 2008, rejects characterization of Paul by another ex-aide as wishing Israel 'did not exist at all.'

"We should remember it's the primaries, and the Republican party establishment is not happy about his popularity, because on many issues his positions run contrary to the traditional party's agenda," Hadar added.

The former aide also indicated that Rep. Paul was in favor of "economic cooperation with Israel, he was interested in the economic reforms in Israel."

"He will be glad to see the conflict resolved and he said it's the right of Israel to attack Iran if it thinks that is necessary - but it shouldn't expect the U.S. to clean the mess," he said, adding that Paul is "very familiar with Israel's history. I didn't hear his conversations with his former aide, but I personally have never heard him say anything against Israel or the Jews."

Referring to claims according to which Paul was in favor of "handing Israel back" to the Arabs, Hadar said it was "absurd to say he is more supportive of Arabs or Iran than Israel - he just thinks the U.S. shouldn't meddle in other countries issues."

"I think it's quite pro-Israeli, because the U.S. won't stay in the Middle East forever, and Israel should figure out how to deal with its challenges," Hadar said, adding that there "is little doubt the current campaign against him and the attempts to paint him as anti-Israeli might cause him harm among the Evangelicals, whose support is more significant during the primaries than the Republican Jewish support."


http://www.haaretz.com/news/u-s-elections-2012/u-s-presidential-hopeful-ron-paul-isn-t-anti-israel-former-aide-says-1.403946

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Re: Ron Paul Right..AGain:"We(Israel) Can Defend Ourselves"
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2011, 10:55:57 PM »
again...


why should I give a flying fck about Israel ? What do they do for me?

Fck em... I want my $13billion in tax dollars back we give them each year