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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #25 on: December 27, 2011, 01:05:53 PM »
The bigger you get the less you have to train, over train our body is the biggest mistakes we do, the longer it takes the muscle to recover , so training eod is the way to go.
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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #26 on: December 27, 2011, 01:08:37 PM »
Who the fuck sleeps 10 hours ???

people without jobs, lol

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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2011, 01:10:02 PM »
I find that the longer you've been training the shorter your session become and the less days you go to the gym. I might be the drug or whatever but the fact is with years on training your learn to make the most out of the least.
Since i've been on gear i've reduced my volume a little. I do 12 sets for chest and i still consider that high volume. I could do 25 because i feel wired but i just feel like i've achieved with 12 what before it tool 20.
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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #28 on: December 27, 2011, 01:12:52 PM »
I like to train whether I`m on or not....it`s like a daily tonic and part of my routine.

Actually,it`s a passion for me.

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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #29 on: December 27, 2011, 02:32:19 PM »
I like to train whether I`m on or not....it`s like a daily tonic and part of my routine.

Actually,it`s a passion for me.

^^first serious reply :D


Jay Cutler once said there's no such thing as overtraining, if you lose muscle/weight or feel tired and sore for days - means you're not EATING enaugh.
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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #30 on: December 27, 2011, 02:33:02 PM »
first serious reply :D


Jay Cutler once said there's no such thing as overtraining, if you lose muscle/weight or feel tired and sore for days - means you're not EATING enaugh.

jay..cutler...once...als o...said...it...was...a. ..bicep...tear...

okay...jay...sure...budd y...::)

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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2011, 02:38:10 PM »
jay..cutler...once...also...said...it...was...a...bicep...tear...

okay...jay...sure...budd y...::)

:D

you know.. it's good to throw balonie here and there from time to time.. just to keep things more interesting :D

However, he sounded very serious talking about overtraining and food.
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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2011, 02:41:31 PM »
:D

you know.. it's good to throw balonie here and there from time to time.. just to keep things more interesting :D

However, he sounded very serious talking about overtraining and food.

yeah...he...did...also.. .tell...b-boy...upfront...that...the...name...of...the...game...is....GH...so...I...guess...he...cool...

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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2011, 02:43:39 PM »
^^first serious reply :D


Jay Cutler once said there's no such thing as overtraining, if you lose muscle/weight or feel tired and sore for days - means you're not EATING enaugh.
Arnold said that first years ago.............seriousl y.

He said:
"There`s no such thing as ovetraining,just undereating and undersleeping" !

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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #34 on: December 27, 2011, 02:48:12 PM »
Arnold said that first years ago.............seriousl y.

He said:
"There`s no such thing as ovetraining,just undereating and undersleeping" !

aha, means Jason copy pasted Arnold's words.

This is good to know. Didn't know Arnold said this.
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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #35 on: December 27, 2011, 04:13:17 PM »
I guess I am strange. When I was natural, I actually had to leave the gym because I just couldn't do anymore.
I would actually get shaky after too many intense sets.
I have been using AAS regularly for 7-8 years I think, and when on the sauce, as I said in my earlier post, I have to make
myself leave because I can go and go and go. This does not pertain to cardio...... tren specifically makes me
feel like dying while doing intense cardio, and I am so happy to leave after the 45min-1hr mark.
I do a ton of cardio for health reasons only. I do not enjoy it, but it is good for my mental and physical health.

I get bloodwork every 4-6 weeks. I will stop everything if something is messed up.


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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #36 on: December 27, 2011, 04:15:34 PM »
Of course there is. The body does not have an unlimited capacity to handle stress.

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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #37 on: December 27, 2011, 04:17:11 PM »
Of course there is. The body does not have an unlimited capacity to handle stress.
bullshit.. a buddy of mine was in hiroshima and after his muscles recovered from all the microtears he was fuckin hooooge

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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #38 on: December 27, 2011, 04:29:10 PM »
Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?

how do you think heavy juicers get torn muscles?

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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #39 on: December 27, 2011, 04:30:04 PM »

absolutely.

some of the periods i have been most over trained i was also running some of my biggest cycles.
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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #40 on: December 27, 2011, 04:35:40 PM »
how do you think heavy juicers get torn muscles?
Maybe they didn't have fathers
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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #41 on: December 27, 2011, 04:47:54 PM »
John Broz, the guy who runs Average Broz Gymnasium, says that feeling run down / bad after heavy training doesn't mean anything bad.  According to him, serotonin is the neurotransmitter responsible for muscle contraction, and when you "lift heavy" your body has to adapt by temporarily shutting down the serotonin production faculties in your brain so that it can renovate them for higher performance.  This is why you feel bad / "overtrained" he says (serotonin levels also control mood).  But in reality, you are just adapting to a higher stress and "getting stronger."  He has his lifters doing squats to max six or seven days a week, apparently.

The whole post where he talks about this seems suspicious to me but it's an interesting argument because it goes against our instincts.  Instead of laying off when we feel bad, he says we should just keep "pounding away."

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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #42 on: December 27, 2011, 07:32:15 PM »
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Other than the frequency statement, the first bit was correct.

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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #43 on: December 27, 2011, 08:10:53 PM »
you can't train 7 days a week for 2 hours .... you need rest..

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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #44 on: December 28, 2011, 12:51:39 AM »
When i'm on gear, whatever, never want to leave the gym, It makes it harder to train with high reps because of the pump tough.
Overtraining is a reality especially when you realize the gear is kicking in and suddenly you can squat with 200kg instead of 170kg and so on  ;D

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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #45 on: December 28, 2011, 08:11:38 AM »
High intensity is what most important, aas only helps with recovery pow, so instead by doing many sets or reps per muscle group , I do just 2 set for each muscle group, 1st set moderate and 2nd set heavy to the failure (30min workout), this is my offseason routine, the rest of the work do food and drugs :)

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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #46 on: December 28, 2011, 08:26:58 AM »
High intensity is what most important, aas only helps with recovery pow, so instead by doing many sets or reps per muscle group , I do just 2 set for each muscle group, 1st set moderate and 2nd set heavy to the failure (30min workout), this is my offseason routine, the rest of the work do food and drugs :)
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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #47 on: December 28, 2011, 08:35:27 AM »
theres far too many variables in regard to overtraining.....

biggest for most people would be what type of work you do, if you work manually doing 6 days a week, with a few half shifts thrown in, theres no way your training 6 days a week all out and getting anything from it, no matter how much gear your taking

if your out of work, working in an office etc etc,, you could probly do alot more and benefit from it

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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #48 on: December 28, 2011, 08:38:46 AM »

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Re: Is there such a thing as "overtraining" when juiced to the gills?
« Reply #49 on: December 28, 2011, 08:54:10 AM »
Good morning Mr. Mentzer !!  :)

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