Who's the best lifetime natty on this board?

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

I appreciate the kind words and the compliment, but you'll have to inform me about the rest. From when I started to now, 10+ years of being drug free have proved otherwise. People, in general not just the internet, have some very fascinating opinions. Misguided, as in this case, but fascinating none the less. Again, thank you for having something positive to say!

More pics for you to scrutinize can be found here: http://patbanya.blogspot.com/

Your life must suck if you look the way you do, and still feel the need to lie. I seriously think guys like you are fucked in the head. Probably on massive amounts of rec drugs too. Seek professional help dude.

[Xerxes]

nobody here is natural
maybe xerxes

Hahahahaha   , yeah I'm so small you can't doubt me! Can you believe these fuckers? Maybe I should just eat some fried plantains, some potatoes and take some creatine and become as huge as Meso, Adrain, this new black bullshitter, Goudy and all the other "claimers",


  oh brother as natural as JNN 69'ing Goodrum

[ChevChelios]

THis patbanya fella is such a joke,coming to the thunderdome and pretending he is natural.Wake up you retard piece of shit,you cannot lie us like you do with your parents ...Now go back to where you came from and never come again  

natural ha?

[el numero uno]

THis patbanya fella is such a joke,coming to the thunderdome and pretending he is natural.Wake up you retard piece of shit,you cannot lie us like you do with your parents ...Now go back to where you came from and never come again  

natural ha?

He must have a slight retardation, who the fuck is so dumb to think people will believe you're natural looking like that. Instead of keeping his mouth shut and receiving props, he comes and bullshit people and show us how retarded he is.

Either is truly retarded or he's very fucked up in the head. Either way, it's sad.

[wes]

Thanks Wes!  It's been a long journey, and it's still ongoing.

That`s the way it should be brother. 

[ChevChelios]

This retarded piece of shit also claims natural cause he competes at musclemania lol

http://patbanya.blogspot.com/2012/01/certified-natural.html

Yet we had some romanian competitor there that died just before the competition.Natural causes of course 

[patbanya]

natural looking like that.

So, because I workout and look like it I'm a liar?  How does that work?  How exactly is a natural supposed to look?  If someone jumps higher or runs faster than you or myself, does that exclude them from being natural?  I find posts like yours and many others comical.  But, please, continue.  You've discovered your talent.  And, thank you for the picture post.  At least you took a moment to look before slandering me.

[BiGHer]

To be honest I really only care about my parents and my children's opinions.  I started training for then same reason most start to become bigger and stronger.  At that time I had no desire to become an ifbb pro I have no desire today either!  I've never told a single person by taking " this or that " supplement it would increase their size or strength or make them look a certain way. I list products that I currently take and when asked about my supplementation history I answer those questions also I lift because I enjoy it!

So are you caliming natural or not natural?

Seriously.  What are you claiming?  The answer is obvious and I don't NEED you to tell me, but as a man, when asked out right if you are natural or not, how are you responding?

It looks like this:

1) You can lie and say natural and I'll respond by saying that you are not much of man for your children as lying is not a good example to set and if you are in fact natural ( ), then you are not smart because you could be setting your parents and children up for financial affluence for many years to come with your ability to go on and win the Mr. O, market the shit out of yourself, and create an enormous net worth.

2) You can admit to the drug use, gain a lot more respect from GetBiggers (which you'll claim to not care about, but why would you post here then) for your honesty, and maybe even let them pick your brain because you do have a great physiqye, drugs or not.

However, my guess is that you will remain consistant with how you have handled questions like these in previous threads and not respond at all.  Like an honest girl who doesn't want to admit that she slept with someone, she'll tell others "It's none of their business" or not say anything at all because hey, if you don't answer, at least you're not lying  .

[njflex]

Hahahahaha   , yeah I'm so small you can't doubt me! Can you believe these fuckers? Maybe I should just eat some fried plantains, some potatoes and take some creatine and become as huge as Meso, Adrain, this new black bullshitter, Goudy and all the other "claimers",


  oh brother as natural as JNN 69'ing Goodrum

well to a point k,,,don't place limits to ones ability to either get big,conditioned,naturally of course there are limits to how far the body will go natural,if one has good genetics they could have a good build,people who waste time doubting people's claims are not focusing on there own physique goal.i know in my pic i was 100 pct drug free,,,no natural diuretics even,and barely cardio all diet,,i used metrx including my meals.

[Xerxes]

well to a point k,,,don't place limits to ones ability to either get big,conditioned,naturally of course there are limits to how far the body will go natural,if one has good genetics they could have a good build,people who waste time doubting people's claims are not focusing on there own physique goal.i know in my pic i was 100 pct drug free,,,no natural diuretics even,and barely cardio all diet,,i used metrx including my meals.

95% of getbiggers think the ones I talked about are full of shit though, and you know it.

Looked great shredded bro.

[njflex]

95% of getbiggers think the ones I talked about are full of shit though, and you know it.

Looked great shredded bro.

well ,,,give them there box to speak on and move on,either way it dosen't hurt you or anyon'e s integrity ,,,your rep is not on the line.there choice to admit or not.

[ChristopherA]

THis patbanya fella is such a joke,coming to the thunderdome and pretending he is natural.Wake up you retard piece of shit,you cannot lie us like you do with your parents ...Now go back to where you came from and never come again  

natural ha?

Jesus no fucking joke!! I saw the thread earlier on my girls's iphone so I couldnt see the pic scaled well. I'm on the labtop now, gimme a break. Dude's yoked, juice or not. No reason to lie. Dont know what random juiceheads think they have to gain by lying about it? Not here bitch, hit the bricks. Fucking noob liar

[BiGHer]

Also, why come to GetBig if you're natural?? For the great training advice to be found here  ... lol.

I get that it's entertainment and also a place to be updated on bodybuilding and some behind the scenes info, but look around here...  A large majority of the useful information regarding your own bodybuilding, is about drugs!  The training and diet tips you will get here can be found almost anywhere.  It's the drug info that is the draw.  The freedom of speech.

Naturals on GB... really?

[patbanya]

Jesus no fucking joke!! I saw the thread earlier on my girls's iphone so I couldnt see the pic scaled well. I'm on the labtop now, gimme a break. Dude's yoked, juice or not. No reason to lie. Dont know what random juiceheads think they have to gain by lying about it? Not here bitch, hit the bricks. Fucking noob liar

Thank you for the compliment.  I weighed 201lbs at 5'9" for Musclemania Universe in 2010.  I've been told I look deceptively bigger.  I also had the opportunity to meet Kiyoshi Moody.  He was competing a little heavier than he normally does and he looked great; although not quite as conditioned as his team u pics.  Nice guy, who I believe is one of the top natural out there.  I think he also posts on here from time to time.

[BiGHer]

THis patbanya fella is such a joke,coming to the thunderdome and pretending he is natural.Wake up you retard piece of shit,you cannot lie us like you do with your parents ...Now go back to where you came from and never come again  

natural ha?

Someone is claiming that this is natural?  Is someone ok?  Do they need their brain checked?  

This is the Thunderdome.  Go back to bodybuilding.com with this stuff.  When you are ready to be honest like a man about what you use then come here.  No, I'm not in awe of someone who can run or jump higher or who has bigger muscles.  I am in awe of stupidity though.  Seriously, if you REALLY looked anything like this naturally, you'd have to have something wrong with you to not juice.  You'd be a Mr. O in a heartbeat.  A long standing Mr. O.  A Mr. O who could make millions and get more exposure than that MuscleMania stuff could ever provide.  You could set yourself up in a great financial situation.

Why do these guys not do it though?  Because they are not natural already.  

These natural or not discussions need to stop and people trying to come to GB when they are clearly not natural need to go elsewhere and lie to people who will actually believe them.

I normally don't even get invovled in these discussions, but some of the "natural" physiques on this thread aren't even debateable.  Layne Norton would even be saying "Come on bro, you gotta hide it better than that!"

[patbanya]

Also, why come to GetBig if you're natural?? For the great training advice to be found here  ... lol.

I get that it's entertainment and also a place to be updated on bodybuilding and some behind the scenes info, but look around here...  A large majority of the useful information regarding your own bodybuilding, is about drugs!  The training and diet tips you will get here can be found almost anywhere.  It's the drug info that is the draw.  The freedom of speech.

Naturals on GB... really?

In addition to being a top natural competitor, I'm also a fan of the sport.  I think most of us who compete started that way at one time or another.  I think Ron runs a brilliant site, and brings a lot of news to print before some of the other sites.  But, I also hop around a few well known boards that offer contest coverage and news articles.

[BiGHer]

In addition to being a top natural competitor, I'm also a fan of the sport.  I think most of us who compete started that way at one time or another.  I think Ron runs a brilliant site, and brings a lot of news to print before some of the other sites.  But, I also hop around a few well known boards that offer contest coverage and news articles.

You're a liar though.  Is that OK with you?  Seriously, I can tell you are giving the proper interview answers as if potential sponsors are reading these threads and you don't want to risk contract.

As a man though, when you look yourself in the mirror, are you content knowing that you are a liar and you lie to people involved in this sport you claim to be a fan of?

I expect another "interview" answer because I think their may be something wrong with you.  You may be extremely delusionaly, but if not, as a man, I have to assume you can't be proud of the skeleton in your closet.

I understand you may have a following on other boards and some kids who take your word dearly, but that won't fly here.  Even Ron knows you're not natural.  He's been in this industry long enough.  I just sometimes wonder how you guys live with yourselves.

I admit my useage on here.  I have posted plenty of photos too.  I guess if I ever get sponsored, I'll take the Adrain approach and just not answer or ignore the questions about PED's.  Lie about it though?  I don't know.  I think I'd rather make my own financial success and not rely on sponsors like many bodybuilders do and just keep the drug use to myself or on GB where people have the freedom to discuss such things.

[BiGHer]

Like you said it's great for the behind the scenes info, freedom and drug talk.

But not everyone wants to poke themselves multiple times a day like some junky and be dependent on drugs there whole life just to be 'big'

Some of the naturals on here look much better than the folks using.

Sure and that may very well be true.  I was natural for 9 of my 11 years weight training.  I respect naturals very much so.  I don't respect lying though.

I've told lies in my life too.  I've even lied to those I've loved.  Actually, becoming a TRULY HONEST person is one of the most difficult things for anyone to do.  However FroZZor, when you look at these pics, do you believe natural?

It's like if you walked in on your girl ass naked with another guy, are you gonna believe she wasn't cheating???  When it's that obvious man, there is no reason to discuss or debate.  Just look!  Open your eyes!

[patbanya]

This retarded piece of shit also claims natural cause he competes at musclemania lol

http://patbanya.blogspot.com/2012/01/certified-natural.html

Yet we had some romanian competitor there that died just before the competition.Natural causes of course  

Thanks for stopping by my blog.  It's a work in progress, but I hope to offer some useful insight, as time permits.  I've actually set my sights on the NPC in hopes of one day winning an IFBB pro card at the Team Universe; that in my opinion is the top natural/drug tested contest in the US.  Many top competitors from other natural orgs crossover and do the team u so it offers more of an incentive for someone such as myself.

I think it's tragic that someone would die before or contest.  I'm sure the exact circumstances leading up to it were determined by several factors and not just one.  But either way, if it was drug related, that's just yet another reason to remain natural.

[Swlabr]

BiGHer demolishing this liar.

[Xerxes]

BiGher if you ever get sponsored/turn pro people here will remember your structure etc... You'd have to delete some posts and then say you "used to" do them I guess  .

[BiGHer]

BiGher if you ever get sponsored/turn pro people here will remember your structure etc... You'd have to delete some posts and then say you "used to" do them I guess  .

Probably, but I'm a long ways from that and if it gets to that point... well, some problems are good to have, and if I'm worrying about board posts because of large sponsorships, that's a good problem! HAHA.

[ChristopherA]

Thanks for stopping by my blog.  It's a work in progress, but I hope to offer some useful insight, as time permits.  I've actually set my sights on the NPC in hopes of one day winning an IFBB pro card at the Team Universe; that in my opinion is the top natural/drug tested contest in the US.  Many top competitors from other natural orgs crossover and do the team you so it offers more of an incentive for someone such as myself.

I think it's tragic that someone would die before or contest.  I'm sure the exact circumstances leading up to it were determined by several factors and not just one.  But either way, if it was drug related, that's just yet another reason to remain natural.

Interesting. Now kill yourself

[el numero uno]

If someone jumps higher or runs faster than you or myself, does that exclude them from being natural?

Don't be an idiot... wait, you can't, you brain must be the size of your balls, NON-EXISTENT.

Haha, great example there  , I can believe if someone lift very heavy weights being natural, but muscle building? sorry, I have enough experience to know when someone is bullshitting, in your case it's more than obvious, retard.


Is this the best you can do at life? Injecting drugs on a daily basis and then claiming to be natural? Like I said. That's sad.

[patbanya]

I admit my useage on here.  I have posted plenty of photos too.  I guess if I ever get sponsored, I'll take the Adrain approach and just not answer or ignore the questions about PED's.

I'm glad that your approach works for you and you're comfortable with it.  I respect that even if I don't see eye to eye with it.  The truth is always the best policy.  That's why I adhere it when I talk about my approach and the methods to my (limited) competitive success.  

I'm just here to learn more about the sport, read articles, look at photos, and exchange ideas with people who aren't judgmental about my way of doing things.  Natural bodybuilders don't get nearly enough respect on the main boards, it's sad.  But I have a feeling that you, and others can change that.  You're well spoken and polite when you're not trying to state your opinion as fact.

For me, it's not about sponsors, but rather connecting with like minded people who are determined to improve themselves.  I don't ever expect to make a living from competing.