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CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars, video
« on: January 03, 2012, 06:57:27 PM »
Damn, this is going to viral. Soilder and Ron paul voter was killing the criticism Paul gets, (bring troops home, Isreal can take care of itself) and boom, gone. I can't believe they just killed the feed like that.

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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2012, 07:12:50 PM »
Youre kidding? That better blow up, thats insane. Dont agree with the us, oh well no biggie, fuck you we'll just turn you off

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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2012, 07:16:22 PM »
i was watching it live when it happened, inconclusive about whether it was intentional or not but thats the first thing my brother said lol.

Let's not go CT over this shit.

How does a shithead like Rick Santorum get ahead of the pack like that? Its fucking irritating.
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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2012, 07:18:49 PM »
They shit themselves. The guy was in Iraq and Afghanistan, had a tattoo of the towers on his neck. The reporter asked him how he feels about Ron bringing the troops home and wouldn't that be dangerous. The guy said it would be more dangerous to start new wars and that Isreal can take care of itself and then they cut him off.

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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2012, 07:19:42 PM »
i was watching it live when it happened, inconclusive about whether it was intentional or not but thats the first thing my brother said lol.

Let's not go CT over this shit.

How does a shithead like Rick Santorum get ahead of the pack like that? Its fucking irritating.

The media has been pushing him for days.

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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2012, 07:19:48 PM »
i was watching it live when it happened, inconclusive about whether it was intentional or not but thats the first thing my brother said lol.

Let's not go CT over this shit.

How does a shithead like Rick Santorum get ahead of the pack like that? Its fucking irritating.
Exactly what i was saying!
WTF!?

If he winds up winning the nomination, its going to be black Obama vs White Obama, epic fail.
Both big spenders.
Both believe populous too stupid to make the right decisions
Both feel that the government is resposible for telling the citizens how to live their lives.

WTF!!

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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2012, 07:23:14 PM »
It's probably the religious/social issues vote he's riding on and he's been campaigning pretty hard in the state. No worries yet, 50% of the vote count to go.
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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2012, 07:29:01 PM »
It's probably the religious/social issues vote he's riding on and he's been campaigning pretty hard in the state. No worries yet, 50% of the vote count to go.
I know, but after hearing the GOP come out and say they flat out wont let Paul win, kinda brings the whole thing into question.

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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2012, 07:32:29 PM »
I know, but after hearing the GOP come out and say they flat out wont let Paul win, kinda brings the whole thing into question.
thats fucked up
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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars (video)
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2012, 07:33:35 PM »
Remember there hasnt been one lost video feed all night except here.



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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2012, 07:34:25 PM »
So now, after years railing against the wars, the media is now apparently pro-war. Already lining up the excuses already.

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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2012, 07:38:00 PM »
So now, after years railing against the wars, the media is now apparently pro-war. Already lining up the excuses already.

Im not making any excuse for where Paul sits in the poll, just find this more then odd.   

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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2012, 07:42:11 PM »
So now, after years railing against the wars, the media is now apparently pro-war. Already lining up the excuses already.
Honestly Im pretty happy with how Paul is doing. I didnt expect him to win, it would have taken a miracle with everything stacked against him like it is.
Im hoping he builds some momentum, but lets be honest, no one expects Paul to win the nomination.

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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2012, 07:44:58 PM »
Honestly Im pretty happy with how Paul is doing. I didnt expect him to win, it would have taken a miracle with everything stacked against him like it is.
Im hoping he builds some momentum, but lets be honest, no one expects Paul to win the nomination.

Iowa has correctly predicted the nominee something like once or twice since 1980. It's not over and like Bindare said in another thread, it's time for Santorum to step up to the plate and get the vetting that everyone else has. In the end I still think it comes down to Romney and Paul.

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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars, video
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2012, 07:47:34 PM »
definitely not lining up excuses or forming a CT.  The GOP brought this all into questionable territory before tonight even started.

Basically saying, if you vote Paul, forget that extra cash brought to your state the next time around.  and then just flat out saying if it looks like Paul is going to win, they have ways to make sure that doesn't happen.  Not cool.

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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars, video
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2012, 05:56:11 AM »
I wouldn't worry too much about Santorum.  He will fall on his face before the next New Hampshire debate.  Once he starts getting the top tier scrutiny he won't be able to hang.  Ron Paul is a very strong second in NH and will continue to steadily rise in polls. 

I think Obama would destroy Santorum in the general election, he would be the worst pick for Repub.  I don't believe any Independents would go his way.
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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars, video
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2012, 07:11:19 AM »
santorum got his moral victory, but has no team or money to go beyond that.

it's really looking like ron paul is the ONLY candidate with the money and structure to beat Romney. 

Which would you rather have, guys?  Mitt or ron paul?

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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars, video
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2012, 10:37:39 AM »
Good.  Idiot.  Shouldn't be talking about that kind of crap in uniform on camera.  And he's a corporal (E4) with ten years of service?  How is that?   ???

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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars, video
« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2012, 10:43:31 AM »
Good.  Idiot.  Shouldn't be talking about that kind of crap in uniform on camera.  And he's a corporal (E4) with ten years of service?  How is that?   ???

Soldiers can't have an opinion?

If he's been fighting, he can say any god damn thing he wants to.


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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars, video
« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2012, 02:30:15 PM »
Good.  Idiot.  Shouldn't be talking about that kind of crap in uniform on camera.  And he's a corporal (E4) with ten years of service?  How is that?   ???




Yep, he's probably going to have problems since he's in uniform.  And if he's active duty, he's in the shithouse.  I'm not sure if there's any way to know if he's active duty, but HH6 might be able to tell us.

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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars, video
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2012, 03:15:21 PM »
Beach...good catch and Skip...u hit hit bud. He was in uniform.....its waaaaaaaay against regs. He's a reservist and I'm not sure he'll get smoked. I would crush him, regardless of who he was supporting. This is just like Hugo bitching about the Patriot Act...turns out he was right, sort of a slippery slope.

4.1.2. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty shall not:
4.1.2.1. Participate in partisan political fundraising activities (except as permitted in subparagraph 4.1.1.7.), rallies, conventions (including making speeches in the course thereof), management of campaigns, or debates, either on one’s own behalf or on that of another, without respect to uniform or inference or appearance of official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement. Participation includes more than mere attendance as a spectator. (See subparagraph 4.1.1.9.)
4.1.2.2. Use official authority or influence to interfere with an election, affect the course or outcome of an election, solicit votes for a particular candidate or issue, or require or solicit political contributions from others.
4.1.2.3. Allow or cause to be published partisan political articles, letters, or endorsements signed or written by the member that solicits votes for or against a partisan political party, candidate, or cause. This is distinguished from a letter to the editor as permitted under the conditions noted in subparagraph 4.1.1.6.
4.1.2.4. Serve in any official capacity with or be listed as a sponsor of a partisan political club.
4.1.2.5. Speak before a partisan political gathering, including any gathering that promotes a partisan political party, candidate, or cause.
4.1.2.6. Participate in any radio, television, or other program or group discussion as an advocate for or against a partisan political party, candidate, or cause.
4.1.2.7. Conduct a political opinion survey under the auspices of a partisan political club or group or distribute partisan political literature.
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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars, video
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2012, 03:22:33 PM »
http://www.stripes.com/news/soldier-on-stage-with-ron-paul-could-face-punishment-for-politicking-1.165130

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Soldier on stage with Ron Paul could face punishment for politicking

WASHINGTON — An Army reservist who appeared in uniform on national television in support of Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul during Tuesday’s Iowa caucuses could face harsh penalties from the Defense Department for violating military rules against politicking.

Service officials confirmed Wednesday that they are looking into possible violations of the department’s rules governing troops’ political participation by Cpl. Jesse Thorsen, an Iowa-based reservist.

Thorsen was interviewed on CNN, speaking in support of Paul’s campaign. Later, at a post-caucus rally, Paul identified Thorsen as a 10-year soldier who “has been with us in our campaign for a few years,” and invited Thorsen on stage to tell the crowd why he supports Paul’s foreign policy plans.

Thorsen could not be reached for comment. Army Reserve officials would not release details of Thorsen’s service record, but the reservist told CNN that he has served in Afghanistan.

Potential penalties could range from a letter of reprimand to a reduction in rank or dismissal from the service.

Military rules prohibit participation in “partisan political” events as a speaker or organizer and mandate that servicemembers avoid media interviews in which they advocate “for or against a partisan political party, candidate, or cause.”

Troops are allowed to attend political events as spectators, but not while in uniform.

Joel Arends, executive director of the political action organization Veterans for a Strong America, called Thorsen’s decision to appear in uniform “irresponsible.” But he also blasted the Paul campaign for either being unaware or blatantly ignoring the military’s rules on troops politicking.

“We need troops and veterans at the table, and we need them to be part of the election process,” he said. “But we don’t need troops to be violating regulations. It’s all about common sense, and most troops understand that we cannot mix the use of a military uniform with political campaigns.”

Last week, Veterans for a Strong America criticized the campaign for using a photo of troops in uniform wearing “Veterans for Ron Paul” T-shirts in pre-caucus fliers distributed throughout Iowa, calling it exploitative.

Officials from Paul’s campaign could not be reached for comment Wednesday.
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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars, video
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2012, 03:52:42 PM »
http://www.stripes.com/news/soldier-on-stage-with-ron-paul-could-face-punishment-for-politicking-1.165130

I blame Paul's people.


Soldier on stage with Ron Paul could face punishment for politicking

WASHINGTON — An Army reservist who appeared in uniform on national television in support of Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul during Tuesday’s Iowa caucuses could face harsh penalties from the Defense Department for violating military rules against politicking.

Service officials confirmed Wednesday that they are looking into possible violations of the department’s rules governing troops’ political participation by Cpl. Jesse Thorsen, an Iowa-based reservist.

Thorsen was interviewed on CNN, speaking in support of Paul’s campaign. Later, at a post-caucus rally, Paul identified Thorsen as a 10-year soldier who “has been with us in our campaign for a few years,” and invited Thorsen on stage to tell the crowd why he supports Paul’s foreign policy plans.

Thorsen could not be reached for comment. Army Reserve officials would not release details of Thorsen’s service record, but the reservist told CNN that he has served in Afghanistan.

Potential penalties could range from a letter of reprimand to a reduction in rank or dismissal from the service.

Military rules prohibit participation in “partisan political” events as a speaker or organizer and mandate that servicemembers avoid media interviews in which they advocate “for or against a partisan political party, candidate, or cause.”

Troops are allowed to attend political events as spectators, but not while in uniform.

Joel Arends, executive director of the political action organization Veterans for a Strong America, called Thorsen’s decision to appear in uniform “irresponsible.” But he also blasted the Paul campaign for either being unaware or blatantly ignoring the military’s rules on troops politicking.

“We need troops and veterans at the table, and we need them to be part of the election process,” he said. “But we don’t need troops to be violating regulations. It’s all about common sense, and most troops understand that we cannot mix the use of a military uniform with political campaigns.”

Last week, Veterans for a Strong America criticized the campaign for using a photo of troops in uniform wearing “Veterans for Ron Paul” T-shirts in pre-caucus fliers distributed throughout Iowa, calling it exploitative.

Officials from Paul’s campaign could not be reached for comment Wednesday.


Good.  He should have known better.

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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars, video
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2012, 04:01:10 PM »
yeah he should of.  I am surprised. 

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Re: CNN cuts off soilder critical of wars, video
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2012, 04:32:59 PM »
Its there as much to protect soldiers as it is for the endorsement aspects etc. I loved Bush but I would never have appeared at a rally for him in uniform. I did some stuff for McCain but I never ID'd myself as a soldier.
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