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CA Judge: Ramming Jewish Woman with Shopping Cart ‘Free Speech’
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Back in June of 2010 a leader of a pro-Palestinian student group at University of Berkeley allegedly rammed a Jewish woman with a shopping cart as she staged a counter-protest to an anti-Israel “Apartheid Week” rally conducted by the Muslim Student Association and Students for Justice in Palestine. The counter-protest was dubbed “Israel Wants Peace Week.”

Now, U.S. District Court Judge Richard Seeborg has deemed that the Muslim students who harassed Jessica Felber and other Jewish students were simply engaging in protected political speech.

The Greeley Gazette reports:

On Thursday U.S. District Judge Richard Seeborg said the harassment, even if true, constituted protected political speech and dismissed the case against the university.

Seeborg said the university did not have any obligation to intervene in any dispute where a private individual on campus was allegedly interfering with another’s constitutional rights. He instead appeared to indicate that the incident was an outcome of Felber’s counter protest.

Felber and another Jewish student claimed the University did not do enough to prevent the harassment which included the Muslim group conducting checkpoints around the campus. Students were asked if they were Jewish while passing the checkpoints.

“The incident in which Felber was assaulted with a shopping cart, for example, did not occur in the context of her educational pursuit,” Seeborg stated. “Rather, that event occurred when she, as one person attempting to exercise free speech rights in a public forum, was allegedly attacked by another person who likewise was participating in a public protest in a public forum.”

According to the San Francisco Chronicle, Seeborg said that much of the conduct involved “pure political speech” that is constitutionally protected even if it “contained language that plaintiffs believe was inflammatory, offensive or untrue.”

Seeborg said some courts have allowed public colleges to outlaw harassing speech and conduct that interferes with students’ rights, but schools have no legal duty to do so. The Muslim organizations receive campus funding on the same basis as other groups, the judge said, and any attempt to withdraw it would raise “serious First Amendment issues.”

The Huffington Post adds:

The suit also alleged this attack was part of a pattern of behavior during Apartheid Week, during which Jewish students were spit on and Israel’s government was equated to that of Nazi Germany.

While the university has previously disciplined some of the event’s participants and even had Husam Zakharia, the student who hit Felber with the shopping cart, arrested in connection with the incident, Felber (who graduated last year) has accused university President Mark Yudof, who is Jewish, of allowing an anti-Semitic environment to flourish on campus.

“SJP and Zakharia have been involved in other incidents on campus to incite violence against and intimidate Jewish and other students,” stated the lawsuit. “Defendants knew of this history of incitement and intimidation yet took no reasonable step to adequately control Zakharia or other student members of the SPJ.”

Jihad Watch founder Robert Spencer said the judge’s decision affirms that Muslims assaulting Jewish students is now protected speech.

“This is an outrageous decision. The Muslim students were trying to silence the freedom of speech of the Jewish students. The judge says this is a ruling in favor of free speech, but actually the freedom of speech was being infringed and the judge is saying that is ok to protect the freedom of speech of the Muslim students. Don’t the Jewish students have freedom of speech as well?”

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Re: CA Judge Deems Ramming Jewish Woman with Shopping Cart ‘Free Speech’
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2012, 09:06:53 AM »
Nomination to federal district courtOn August 7, 2009, President Barack Obama nominated Seeborg to be a United States district judge on the United States District Court for the Northern District of California.[2] On October 15, 2009, the United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary voted to send Seeborg's nomination to the full Senate.[3] The Senate confirmed Seeborg by unanimous consent on December 24, 2009.






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Awesome.   Cant wait for equally stupid ass shit from Sotomayor and Kagan   

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WTF - I hope this appealed.

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WTF - I hope this appealed.

Even in the context of that heavily distorted article, it's clear that Seeborg never claimed ramming someone with a shopping cart is free speech.

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Still fucked up... allowing Muslim students to spit on Jews, set up checkpoints polling to see whos jewish, attacking them based on their religion.. Not to mention the shopping cart thing.

If this was any other group of people being treated like this, shit would be hitting the fan. Imagine if the roles were reversed, or lord help them, a group of Jews spitting on a group of black Muslims, ramming them with shopping carts, people would be going to the Federal pen. Rediculous double standard.

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“The incident in which Felber was assaulted with a shopping cart, for example, did not occur in the context of her educational pursuit,” Seeborg stated. “Rather, that event occurred when she, as one person attempting to exercise free speech rights in a public forum, was allegedly attacked by another person who likewise was participating in a public protest in a public forum.”

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Still fucked up... allowing Muslim students to spit on Jews, set up checkpoints polling to see whos jewish, attacking them based on their religion.. Not to mention the shopping cart thing.

If this was any other group of people being treated like this, shit would be hitting the fan. Imagine if the roles were reversed, or lord help them, a group of Jews spitting on a group of black Muslims, ramming them with shopping carts, people would be going to the Federal pen. Rediculous double standard.

The article points out that the person who rammed her was arrested.

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“The incident in which Felber was assaulted with a shopping cart, for example, did not occur in the context of her educational pursuit,” Seeborg stated. “Rather, that event occurred when she, as one person attempting to exercise free speech rights in a public forum, was allegedly attacked by another person who likewise was participating in a public protest in a public forum.”

Nowhere in here does he say that ramming someone with a shopping cart is free speech. He calls it assault. The lawsuit was not about that assault, but whether UC Berkley should be required to institute more stringent speech guidelines. The judge did not feel that the assault proved UC Berkley was negligent.

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Better yet, run over some homos with shopping carts and watch this same group of academic cooks go ballistic.

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Nowhere in here does he say that ramming someone with a shopping cart is free speech. He calls it assault. The lawsuit was not about that assault, but whether UC Berkley should be required to institute more stringent speech guidelines. The judge did not feel that the assault proved UC Berkley was negligent.



That it's criminal assault is settled and irrelevant to this case.  Whether or not it's covered by civil law is the issue and his dismissal of the case is a defacto approval.

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Re: CA Judge: Ramming Jew w Shopping Cart ‘Free Speech’ (Obama Appointee)
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2012, 07:38:12 PM »


That it's criminal assault is settled and irrelevant to this case.  Whether or not it's covered by civil law is the issue and his dismissal of the case is a defacto approval.

Whether or not the assault has been dealt with IS relevant to the case as the purpose of the suit was to determine whether or not UC Berkley acted negligently and disregarded the plaintiffs. Additionally, my response was in regards to the title of this thread, which is not factual.

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Re: CA Judge: Ramming Jew w Shopping Cart ‘Free Speech’ (Obama Appointee)
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2012, 07:39:24 PM »
Not my title.   

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Re: CA Judge: Ramming Jew w Shopping Cart ‘Free Speech’ (Obama Appointee)
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2012, 07:43:51 PM »
Whether or not the assault has been dealt with IS relevant to the case as the purpose of the suit was to determine whether or not UC Berkley acted negligently and disregarded the plaintiffs. Additionally, my response was in regards to the title of this thread, which is not factual.



No criminally, it's irrelevant.  Only the civil issue is relevant.  And I don't give a fuck about the title.

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Re: CA Judge: Ramming Jew w Shopping Cart ‘Free Speech’ (Obama Appointee)
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2012, 07:45:32 PM »
I wish the Jew pulled out am Uzi and took out dozens of the the muslim and Muslim sympathizer filth.

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Re: CA Judge: Ramming Jew w Shopping Cart ‘Free Speech’ (Obama Appointee)
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2012, 07:47:45 PM »
I wish the Jew pulled out am Uzi and took out dozens of the the muslim and Muslim sympathizer filth.



I wouldn't do that, but I would intentionally go through one of their "checkpoints" and start shit.  :D

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Re: CA Judge: Ramming Jew w Shopping Cart ‘Free Speech’ (Obama Appointee)
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2012, 08:04:28 PM »


No criminally, it's irrelevant.  Only the civil issue is relevant.  And I don't give a fuck about the title.

Of course it's relevant. The UC Berkley officials aren't psychic. Confrontations are going to happen.