You are wrong if you say protein powder is garbage.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

PROTEIN IS PROTEIN BUT YOU NEVER REALLY KNOW WHAT'S INSIDE THAT PROTEIN POWDER. THAT'S THE TRUTH.

LIQUID EGG WHITES INSTEAD OF PROTEIN POWDER AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S INSIDE OF THOSE EGG WHITES.

WHEY PROTEIN IS CHEAP AS SHIT BUT PEOPLE STILL FAKE IT. THAT SHOWS U HOW MUCH DOUCHEBAGGERY THERE IS IN THIS INDUSTRY.

this is why everyone should just go with the brands we know are legit like ON or Myofusion. I can guarantee you those work. Otherwise, you raise a good point. I remember American Whey getting pulled from the shelves because it was bullshit

[Tito24]

[QuakerOats]

this is why everyone should just go with the brands we know are legit like ON or Myofusion. I can guarantee you those work. Otherwise, you raise a good point. I remember American Whey getting pulled from the shelves because it was bullshit

a very prominent local guy who does very well as a heavyweight on the NPC national scene told a friend of mine that as long as you get some form of protein powder post workout youre fine, he said even if its the Wal-Mart brand you're fine, he said all the bullshit about different brnads is nonsense.

[flinstones1]

useless? try having more shakes and less solid food and tell me you are getting worse results. If you do, you are a filth liar

I agree...personally I grow better of shakes it seems like. The difference is I buy it the grocery store for 20 bucks instead of some fancy kind, I went 6 months without using protein powders ..man what a pain in the ass. 3 meals a day is all I can stomach anyways, you need the shakes. egg whites fuck my stomach

[Tito24]

[flinstones1]

a very prominent local guy who does very well as a heavyweight on the NPC national scene told a friend of mine that as long as you get some form of protein powder post workout youre fine, he said even if its the Wal-Mart brand you're fine, he said all the bullshit about different brnads is nonsense.

times2...There is no way there is any protein on the market that does not have protein in it. Guidelines are way too strict..it may be filled with fillers and junk quality protein, but if a product says 25 grams of whey concentrate per scoop it has just that

[Tito24]

[nosleep]

this is why everyone should just go with the brands we know are legit like ON or Myofusion. I can guarantee you those work. Otherwise, you raise a good point. I remember American Whey getting pulled from the shelves because it was bullshit

I WAS TOLD BEFORE, ON HERE, THAT MYOFUSION IS NOT WHAT IT SAYS IT IS.

[flinstones1]

I WAS TOLD BEFORE, ON HERE, THAT MYOFUSION IS NOT WHAT IT SAYS IT IS.

really? . I'm using EAS at the moment from my local publix..tired some isopure it was awful

[Tito24]

[howardroark]

I agree...personally I grow better of shakes it seems like. The difference is I buy it the grocery store for 20 bucks instead of some fancy kind, I went 6 months without using protein powders ..man what a pain in the ass. 3 meals a day is all I can stomach anyways, you need the shakes. egg whites fuck my stomach

Somehow I highly doubt that, unless your diet without shakes was retarded. You only need so much protein in a day that's easily done by eating meats - no need for shakes, eggs, or milk. In addition, if you're worried about catabolism, just up your carb intake, since it's protein sparing.

[gh15]

protien powder is usless,, it is powder...you dont know what you get inside,, and even if it is protien it is still powder...true body doesnt knwo wht you give it ,,but! but!! you give it papeti all whites...will be much beter than some covict order of some powder to make his monthly $ for kigtropin

its a scam ,, all big scam ,, no need for it ,, sergio oliva would sit here pee in his pants

gh15 approved

[Tito24]

[gh15]

i fotgot to mention importent detail ,, protien powdr intake will CREATE what i call as water retetnion and estrogenic rize in body that WILL NEVER EVER GO AWAY ,,you will have to fight very hard to get into contest shape after years of protien suplementation ,,

now you mark the minutes until danta and sons come here,, but this is nothing comparing to what waiting for them on the website,, their nightmare is about to hapen

BIG TIME

gh15 approved

[Tito24]

[howardroark]

protien powder is usless,, it is powder...you dont know what you get inside,, and even if it is protien it is still powder...true body doesnt knwo wht you give it ,,but! but!! you give it papeti all whites...will be much beter than some covict order of some powder to make his monthly $ for kigtropin

its a scam ,, all big scam ,, no need for it ,, sergio oliva would sit here pee in his pants

gh15 approved

Dr. Darden has a great little tidbit of information regarding Sergio in one of his books... he mentions how one of Sergio's favorite post-workout meals was a pizza with coca cola. And this was BEFORE gh and tren were around and popular. Goes to show you how much bullshit bodybuilders fall for.

[gh15]

Dr. Darden has a great little tidbit of information regarding Sergio in one of his books... he mentions how one of Sergio's favorite post-workout meals was a pizza with coca cola. And this was BEFORE gh and tren were around and popular. Goes to show you how much bullshit bodybuilders fall for.

absolitly no need for ptoeirn poweder,, and i will let you on another secret....THERE IS ABSOLITLY NO NEED FOR IMMEDIATE PROTIEN POST TRAINING...what most of us bodybuild who are on alot of hormones do...and to all the morons who say gh15 is waiting for website so only there is spill beans they can see they are wrong for i say everything on thunderdome too ....what most of us bodybuild who are on a lot of hormones do is....WE MAKE SURE WE GET IN PROTIEN BFORE TRAINING,, eggwhites or other ,, and after training we wait a good 60 min before we put in protien ,, nothing is calculated to the t ,, NOTHING,, you know your body you train it to be specific way,, protien powders are not needed,,

gh15 approved

[canyon]

Might have similiar bodybuilding results in the short term with Whey and shit quality food but if you in for the long haul, huge difference with high quality nutritionally dense food.

[closeline]

Whenever he says protein powder is garbage. There is no reason to say this. Whey protein is the same as any other type of protein. Same results, same thing. It's cheaper and more convenient. To say you will build bigger muscles on raw egg white liquid than protein powder is pretty silly.

Discuss

100% right

pure whey isolate is good to have

[AlphaMaleDawg]

Dr. Darden has a great little tidbit of information regarding Sergio in one of his books... he mentions how one of Sergio's favorite post-workout meals was a pizza with coca cola. And this was BEFORE gh and tren were around and popular. Goes to show you how much bullshit bodybuilders fall for.

I'm not saying you NEED protein powder, I'm just saying there is nothing wrong with it. Although gh15 just mentioned something about an estrogenic rise that doesn't go away. Hopefully someone can elaborate

[aesthetics]

i prefer protein powder to solid food

not whey though, i don't like ON whey very much.

[ChevChelios]

ISOLATE is somewhat good,but other whey is GARBAGE.You do not want to know it's provenience,what chemicals inside,colorants,sweeteners,lots of dirty stuff.We already got estrogens in most foods,no need to fuck your body completely.  

[closeline]

absolitly no need for ptoeirn poweder,, and i will let you on another secret....THERE IS ABSOLITLY NO NEED FOR IMMEDIATE PROTIEN POST TRAINING...what most of us bodybuild who are on alot of hormones do...and to all the morons who say gh15 is waiting for website so only there is spill beans they can see they are wrong for i say everything on thunderdome too ....what most of us bodybuild who are on a lot of hormones do is....WE MAKE SURE WE GET IN PROTIEN BFORE TRAINING,, eggwhites or other ,, and after training we wait a good 60 min before we put in protien ,, nothing is calculated to the t ,, NOTHING,, you know your body you train it to be specific way,, protien powders are not needed,,

gh15 approved

100% correct too

there is nothing like a window to shuttle nutrients into muscle short after workout

the only need of body after exercise is water


 stopping catabolic processes after workout with supps is a legend made up by supp companies to sell their shit

and a myth created by insulin abusers afraid of hypoglyc  to hide their abuse

actually the catabolism measured after workout is good and necessary to get out the degradation  products out of the system

[Tito24]

[closeline]

ISOLATE is somewhat good,but other whey is GARBAGE.You do not want to know it's provenience,what chemicals inside,colorants,sweeteners,lots of dirty stuff.We already got estrogens in most foods,no need to fuck your body completely.  

it s got to be 100% filtrated whey isolate

because that s as natural protein as eggwhites

basically its just milk without the other ingrediant s

all other proteinpowders exspecially with flavors sweeteners vitamins minerals and so on i would never touch