Arnold's torso to waist ratio

[Lord of the Roidz]

Uh, I ain't arguing his track record...there is a pic of him in yellow trunks with that blonde lady who was stripping for Jesus...his waist is wide, he said it in his Encylopedia of bbing, and he said that's why he did all those twisting shots...
If you've read the Encylopedia, you'd know it...

No one said anything about getting there on pure illusion and propaganda,
but many of the training shots were just that...

It's what bbing advertising is based off of, from the Charles Atlas sand kicking to the Musclemag "add two inches to your arms like the Pros", to "I can ear anything and lose weight!"
To the Musclemag covers of bbers with beautiful women draped over their shoulders...

This gangsta lean racist hates all white bodybuilders..that's a fact.

[A Professional]

I dont like to compare bodybuilders of different era's.  When Arnold was competitive, bodybuilding was still attainable.  Now, its a mess thanks to the internet and insane drugs.  

Flex had a great physique, but he didn't make the impact Arnold did...point taken.

Agreed. Bodybuilding used to have mass appeal because it promoted a look that was healthy and powerful. Guys like Marcus Rhul with greenish yellow skin, and Ronnie Coleman with his chest buster gut are far outside the realm of normalcy, and look like they're on the verge of dying. Now it's been relegated to bizarre subculture status, and the only reason it's being held up, is because a few old rich homos need to indulge their 'ebony mountain of muscle' fantasies.

[Parker]

This gangsta lean racist hates all white bodybuilders..that's a fact.

I guess you didn't see where I have defended Mike Francois, or Ben Pakulski...
I never said that Arnold was shitty, did I? No, I said he had a wide waist, whch he stated in his Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding. I have stated this several times over the yrs. This is not a knock on his legacy, his race, it's what he stated, and the reasons why he did those twisting shots.
Arnold was great for tryng to hide flaws in his physique. No physique is perfect, even Flex who possibly needed a bigger chest.


As far as Brian Buchanan and lack of Pro wins he never had a legs to match his upper body, and his conditioning wasn't spot on in the Pro ranks...

[BILL ANVIL]

Arnold had no legs in 1980 FACT.

the fuck you talking about 

His calves were well over 20" and his thighs are clearly a hell of alot bigger, closer to 30". Once again, people confusing size and definition.

[njflex]

arnolds back,chest and bi's and way he posed made him the champ he was,his waist aside he had small hip structure and even tho his legs weren't thick by today's standards they fit his upperbody nicely ,,gave him that unique look,,katz was 'arnold like' minus the shape and flow needed to look like arnold.

[che]

twink waist = genetic flaw

Arnold waist was almost to small as it was.

look at this guy

Generation nothingness.

[apply85]

at his best = when he was 16? his was is 36-38 in my estimation in pretty much every pic I see. it's fine, looks good, not his best feature but when u have arms and back and chest like him, u dont need a stellar waist to be the best

[closeline]

arnold s waist/rest of body- proportions were almost perfect (same with yates before the bloat stated in 1994)

i have enough of the beginners and retards claming " great genetics, great build" whenever they see a guy with a tiny waist no metter how narrow/shitty the rest of these guys is

tiny waist IMO = fragile non athletic look, most of times narrow, no back, small pecs, no legs, no power, often to short legs (mostly seen on negros)

exception: ron coleman, he had one of the smallest midsections ever when he turned pro, but look at his shitty abs, and what happend to his overloaded spine

[Parker]

arnold s waist/rest of body- proportions were almost perfect (same with yates before the bloat stated in 1994)

i have enough of the beginners and retards claming " great genetics, great build" whenever they see a guy with a tiny waist no metter how narrow/shitty the rest of these guys is

tiny waist IMO = fragile non athletic look, most of times narrow, no back, small pecs, no legs, no power, often to short legs (mostly seen on negros)

exception: ron coleman, he had one of the smallest midsections ever when he turned pro, but look at his shitty abs, and what happend to his overloaded spine

I think it was stated that Brian Buchanan used to squat with 500+ pounds for reps, and Melvin was big squatter and front squatter as well..

Their structure more than likely comes from the Ghana region---where Jojo Ntiforo is from, as he has the same structure.

[Figo]

Of course arnold was a master at hiding flaws and accentuating strenghts, that's what made him great

He hardly stood straight on without leaning a bit or slight twist (ala zane)
Didn't stand with abs flexed, instead sucked in lower abdomen
Stayed away from rear lat spread, ab thigh  and side tri

And why wouldn't he? The man was always a step ahead in everything

[Royalty]

I think it was stated that Brian Buchanan used to squat with 500+ pounds for reps, and Melvin was big squatter and front squatter as well..

Their structure more than likely comes from the Ghana region---where Jojo Ntiforo is from, as he has the same structure.

i remember once Melvin Anthony said that his training was "like Arnold's"

Gold's gym @ Venice has every new piece of equipment available. But melvin knew that heavy barbell front & back squats, barbell rows, barbell shoulder presses, barbell incline presses, barbell curls pull-ups, dips ect were the best for his frame

sergio, arnold, and haney built there bodies with barbells (and dumbbells). Old school

[MB]

Arnold did a lot of practice holding a stomach vacuum.  This kind of thing is an afterthought with today's competitors.  Arnold left no stone unturned, like a sculptor. 

[BILL ANVIL]

arnold s waist/rest of body- proportions were almost perfect (same with yates before the bloat stated in 1994)

i have enough of the beginners and retards claming " great genetics, great build" whenever they see a guy with a tiny waist no metter how narrow/shitty the rest of these guys is

tiny waist IMO = fragile non athletic look, most of times narrow, no back, small pecs, no legs, no power, often to short legs (mostly seen on negros)

exception: ron coleman, he had one of the smallest midsections ever when he turned pro, but look at his shitty abs, and what happend to his overloaded spine

couldn't agree more, I never found a small waist desirable. Makes for a weak build.

[Wiggs]

LOL...Now a small waist = a weak build?  I've heard it all now...Sounds like excuses from guys that are built like toasters...whatever gets you through the day.

Closeline, black guys with short legs?  Blacks have longer limbs on average than every other race...Asians and whites have the market cornered on stumpiness.  No back?  Blacks have the best backs in bodybuilding.

You're gonna have to define a "small waist".

[BILL ANVIL]

LOL...Now a small waist = a weak build?  I've heard it all now...Sounds like excuses from guys that are built like toasters...whatever gets you through the day.

Closeline, black guys with short legs?  Blacks have longer limbs on average than every other race...Asians and whites have the market cornered on stumpiness.  No back?  Blacks have the best backs in bodybuilding.

You're gonna have to define a "small waist".

I have a small waist dude and it makes my lower body look smaller than it really is. Its preference thats all, and I think a small waist looks fragile.

[ARNIE1947]

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[BILL ANVIL]

perfection ^

[flinstones1]

Pure illusion, Arnold himself said he had a wide waist...
Anybody, dieted down, and inhaling can get that look.
Arnold was a Master at hiding his "flaws" and making himself look better, plus the photogs were "Weider Propaganda" employs...always snapping the pic at the right angle, the right inhale, the right time.

oh brother, you again Leave it to parker to be the first to jump in a thread and point out the flaws of the most genetically gifted man to walk the face of the earth because he is white.

your boy Phil can't hold Arnold's coffee cake...hope this helps

[BILL ANVIL]

oh brother, you again Leave it to parker to be the first to jump in a thread and point out the flaws of the most genetically gifted man to walk the face of the earth because he is white.

your boy Phil can't hold Arnold's coffee cake...hope this helps

LOL!

[Figo]

LOL...Now a small waist = a weak build?  I've heard it all now...Sounds like excuses from guys that are built like toasters...whatever gets you through the day.

Lol

Its the new standard, real men need guts that match or exceed chest girth

[Parker]

oh brother, you again Leave it to parker to be the first to jump in a thread and point out the flaws of the most genetically gifted man to walk the face of the earth because he is white.

your boy Phil can't hold Arnold's coffee cake...hope this helps

Most genetically gifted man...oh, brother...slurp eveybit of that Arnold Sea-men....everybody on here who knows and on iron age, would probably admit that Sergio and Serge Nubret had better genetics, and even Arnold would probably agree---and he even had said something similar about Flex Wheeler...
Arnold was great, he is bbing's true father, not Weider...I've watched Pumping Iron enough times, seen enough of his pics, read his Encyclopedia...but I haven't been sucked into the Arnold Indoctrination Machine. What I said was true, and if you read his Encyclopedia, he said it himself...
And, that is enough from the guy who sent Tbombz money for advices on roids and dieting...

[Wiggs]

oh brother, you again Leave it to parker to be the first to jump in a thread and point out the flaws of the most genetically gifted man to walk the face of the earth because he is white.

your boy Phil can't hold Arnold's coffee cake...hope this helps

LOL Arnold the most genetically gifted man to walk the face of the earth?.....now I've heard it all.....

[Figo]

Most genetically gifted responder

[Figo]

LOL Arnold the most genetically gifted man to walk the face of the earth?.....now I've heard it all.....

so far we've learnt

Arnold was made to Gods image

Small waists are weak


Can't wait for more

[closeline]

some guys here are stupid as hell


of course bb should have a rather small waist compared to some fridges out there

like arnold had and your multiple mr o cutler doesn t

i just wanted to make clear that there is a "to small" as well if it results in a weak lower body "monkey type"

cutler, schlierkamp = to wide

arnold, nasser, dorian, demey, strydom = perfect

buchanen, flex, ronnie = to small

and not to forget there is a difference between big waist with narrow hipps (bloated look of many pros today) and big waist with wide hips (rather genetics)