Chris Cormier Was A Better Bodybuilder Than Nasser

[Bevo]

Men in thongs is serious business!!!

[bigbobs]

Linked back? LMFAO you tried to use Kevin as a proxy to a win over Chris , you shifted away from Chris I didn't.

Wrong again as usual.  I clearly demonstrated many times that the purpose of discussing 96-98 Kevin was only to show that using your breakdown-of-mandatory-pose-logic you would also have Kevin ahead of Nasser during those years but of course the contest results had Nasser ahead, same way your breakdown-of-mandatory-pose-logic has Cormier ahead of Nasser doesn't mean an actual contest between the two would agree.  

again I have and will show you outright how Chris beats Nasser at his best all you can do is deny and offer NO counterpoint.

You have not shown anything, just one biased opinion.  You claim that Chris would win most mandatories, including the side shots even though Sherief showed comparison pics that show otherwise.  You haven't shown any comparison pics, just empty words as usual.

Keep pretending Nasser was as good as you think he was , 6 wins in his entire career   facts my friend are not on your side.

6 pro wins including the second and third largest titles (NOC and AC) + 30 top 3 finishes out of 32 consecutive shows from 95 Houston to 99 AC with the two exceptions being 4th place is fucking impressive no matter how you try to slice it!  Especially during arguable the most competitive era

[Sherief Shalaby]

backfire  

Like I said he can beat guys from the front in some poses , from the side he's not the same force and from the back he sucks

Nasser does NOT know how to pose , his side chest could be better because of the way he does it where he keeps his arm low and doesn't expand his rib-cage and pull back the pecs , his side triceps is the same , he's stands up to straight and doesn't bend his leg enough he looks odd in the shot

Thanks for showing Chris smokes him  

Now check out his side chest ( don't concentrate on the year just the way he does the shot ) Vince is smoking him with a textbook side chest shot , I think if Nasser did the pose correctly he would look much better

Same with the side triceps shot look at how he does it , it's as if he's just standing straight , Dorian is killing him in this shot because he's better and he knows how to pose.

what backfire ND?!!.. are you serious?!!.. there are 2 poses from the side , the SC and the ST..

sure you didnt see or you didnt want to see chirs gyno in the SC and sure you didnt notice how bigger, thicker, fuller, more detailed, and, harder nasser's chest, shoulders, and, arms in this pose!!.. and nasser's quad kills chirs's from the side and so is his calve!!.. it was not even close and the exact same can be said about the ST pose.. post any ST pic. of chris you want that beats the ST i posted for nasser..

as i said in the mike vs. nasser thread and as i will say in the nasser vs. dillett thread when hammer starts it chris was great BUT none of his poses is considered one of the best in the history even the 2 poses he was better than nasser in.. on the other hand many of nasser's poses are among the best in the history.. and at his best he beats chris at his best in all poses except the 2 rear..

[Sherief Shalaby]

 

[bigbobs]

Men in thongs is serious business!!!

Especially when its over 10 years old! 

[Bevo]

Especially when its over 10 years old! 

Lol both were good, but completely different bbers imo, 90's were some of the best. Sucks neither one is on stage anymore now we got guys like branch and down hill 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Wrong again as usual.  I clearly demonstrated many times that the purpose of discussing 96-98 Kevin was only to show that using your breakdown-of-mandatory-pose-logic you would also have Kevin ahead of Nasser during those years but of course the contest results had Nasser ahead, same way your breakdown-of-mandatory-pose-logic has Cormier ahead of Nasser doesn't mean an actual contest between the two would agree.  

You have not shown anything, just one biased opinion.  You claim that Chris would win most mandatories, including the side shots even though Sherief showed comparison pics that show otherwise.  You haven't shown any comparison pics, just empty words as usual.


6 pro wins including the second and third largest titles (NOC and AC) + 30 top 3 finishes out of 32 consecutive shows from 95 Houston to 99 AC with the two exceptions being 4th place is fucking impressive no matter how you try to slice it!  Especially during arguable the most competitive era

Wrong again as usual.  I clearly demonstrated many times that the purpose of discussing 96-98 Kevin was only to show that using your breakdown-of-mandatory-pose-logic you would also have Kevin ahead of Nasser during those years but of course the contest results had Nasser ahead, same way your breakdown-of-mandatory-pose-logic has Cormier ahead of Nasser doesn't mean an actual contest between the two would agree.  

No I wouldn't have Kevin ahead of Nasser those years and why? he was off CONDITIONING get it yet? Kevin has nothing to do with Chris again you brought Kevin into it

You have not shown anything, just one biased opinion.  You claim that Chris would win most mandatories, including the side shots even though Sherief showed comparison pics that show otherwise.  You haven't shown any comparison pics, just empty words as usual.

Hahahahahaha oh the irony , out of the two of us I'm clearly more unbiased and more knowledgeable , you don't even know how contests are judged , there for YOU can't make an educated informed opinion and then tell the guy who is telling you how contests are judged is wrong LMFAO you would have to know how contests are judged in order to tell me I'm wrong
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Chris is clearly better than Nasser from the side , you see what you want which leads you to believe Nasser deserved three Olympia titles 

6 pro wins including the second and third largest titles (NOC and AC) + 30 top 3 finishes out of 32 consecutive shows from 95 Houston to 99 AC with the two exceptions being 4th place is fucking impressive no matter how you try to slice it!  Especially during arguable the most competitive era

His record sucks he only managed 6 wins in 53 contests , whoa he was runner-up a lot LMFAO Nasser was a good third tier bodybuilder who could win a show when the second tier guys were off , he was never as great as you pretend he was and facts prove this

lol@ 6 wins in 16 years competing , boy he really set the world on fire 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Another epic backfire 

You're posting a pic from a contest Chris was better than Nasser at 

[NarcissisticDeity]

what backfire ND?!!.. are you serious?!!.. there are 2 poses from the side , the SC and the ST..

sure you didnt see or you didnt want to see chirs gyno in the SC and sure you didnt notice how bigger, thicker, fuller, more detailed, and, harder nasser's chest, shoulders, and, arms in this pose!!.. and nasser's quad kills chirs's from the side and so is his calve!!.. it was not even close and the exact same can be said about the ST pose.. post any ST pic. of chris you want that beats the ST i posted for nasser..

as i said in the mike vs. nasser thread and as i will say in the nasser vs. dillett thread when hammer starts it chris was great BUT none of his poses is considered one of the best in the history even the 2 poses he was better than nasser in.. on the other hand many of nasser's poses are among the best in the history.. and at his best he beats chris at his best in all poses except the 2 rear..

what backfire ND?!!.. are you serious?!!.. there are 2 poses from the side , the SC and the ST..

Thanks for helping me proving Chris was better 

sure you didnt see or you didnt want to see chirs gyno in the SC and sure you didnt notice how bigger, thicker, fuller, more detailed, and, harder nasser's chest, shoulders, and, arms in this pose!!.. and nasser's quad kills chirs's from the side and so is his calve!!.. it was not even close and the exact same can be said about the ST pose.. post any ST pic. of chris you want that beats the ST i posted for nasser..

You just made the rookie mistake of picking what you like and dismissing the rest  bigger , bigger , bigger , Nasser is bigger than so-and-so  when will you learn? Nasser was bigger than Shawn Ray too but lost to him , Nasser was bigger than 99.9% of the guys he competed with and lost a fuck of a lot more than he won

How about posing & presentation? is Nasser winning that? NO , he doesn't even do the poses correctly , that's a strike , how about balance & proportion? recall they assess all of the criteria in a pose at once not just muscular bulk , you think Nasser is winning , but you come to a lot of crazy conclusions

as i said in the mike vs. nasser thread and as i will say in the nasser vs. dillett thread when hammer starts it chris was great BUT none of his poses is considered one of the best in the history even the 2 poses he was better than nasser in.. on the other hand many of nasser's poses are among the best in the history.. and at his best he beats chris at his best in all poses except the 2 rear..

Hahahahah case closed  you're hopeless , Chris side chest kills Nasser textbook side chest , as is his side triceps two poses Nasser can't even hit correctly yet he somehow wins? he's does not look like a 280lb bodybuilder from the sides or the back yet he somehow wins?  how about his balance & proportion? opppsss lets forget that one , Chris muders him in this department

[Sherief Shalaby]

Another epic backfire 

You're posting a pic from a contest Chris was better than Nasser at 

of course not.. chris in 99 mr. olympia was only better than nasser of the same day but faraway from nasser at his best..these comparisons show them both at their best and it was not even close in the 2 side poses..

so according to you i can compare a pic. of samir bannout from the 83 olympia and a pic. of lee haney at his best in 91 and say samir was better because he was better than "lee" on the day!!!.. .. have you noticed how stupid your logic is........ as always

[mesmorph78]

That looks impressive but given the structure: pecs are squashed, his torso looks longer than ever, delts are full of oil with zero striations, arms overcome everything else.

thats all that matters in bbing...
see our current mr o
...

[Sherief Shalaby]

Thanks for helping me proving Chris was better 

You just made the rookie mistake of picking what you like and dismissing the rest  bigger , bigger , bigger , Nasser is bigger than so-and-so  when will you learn? Nasser was bigger than Shawn Ray too but lost to him , Nasser was bigger than 99.9% of the guys he competed with and lost a fuck of a lot more than he won

How about posing & presentation? is Nasser winning that? NO , he doesn't even do the poses correctly , that's a strike , how about balance & proportion? recall they assess all of the criteria in a pose at once not just muscular bulk , you think Nasser is winning , but you come to a lot of crazy conclusions

Hahahahah case closed  you're hopeless , Chris side chest kills Nasser textbook side chest , as is his side triceps two poses Nasser can't even hit correctly yet he somehow wins? he's does not look like a 280lb bodybuilder from the sides or the back yet he somehow wins?  how about his balance & proportion? opppsss lets forget that one , Chris muders him in this department

lol at the parrot talking about balance and proportion (which nasser had in a great way).. but when i ask him where were dorian's balance and proportion and symmetry in 97 he swallows my question deep in his ass without answering  ...

ND forget about nasser (i am sure you cant),.. was dorian more balanced and proportioned and symmetrical than shawn ray in 1997??.. .. shawn had them all and dorian didn't have any,.. no proportion/balance/symmetry between his right side and his left and between his different parts!!.. his back overpowered the rest of his upper physique in a bad way and his calves overpowered his upper legs clearly!!.. why wasnt he marked down for this during his posing routine and the final pose down?!!.. he won with perfect scores right?!..

[bigbobs]

lol at the parrot talking about balance and proportion (which nasser had in a great way).. but when i ask him where were dorian's balance and proportion and symmetry in 97 he swallows my question deep in his ass without answering  ...

ND forget about nasser (i am sure you cant),.. was dorian more balanced and proportioned and symmetrical than shawn ray in 1997??.. .. shawn had them all and dorian didn't have any,.. no proportion/balance/symmetry between his right side and his left and between his different parts!!.. his back overpowered the rest of his upper physique in a bad way and his calves overpowered his upper legs clearly!!.. why wasnt he marked down for this during his posing routine and the final pose down?!!.. he won with perfect scores right?!..

ND doesn't form his own opinions.  Because he's stated many times that judging is perfect and there are no biases, he must "back into" the decisions of the judges at each show, that's why he'll blindly argue that Dorian 97 deserved to beat the rest of the competition.

[NarcissisticDeity]

of course not.. chris in 99 mr. olympia was only better than nasser of the same day but faraway from nasser at his best..these comparisons show them both at their best and it was not even close in the 2 side poses..

so according to you i can compare a pic. of samir bannout from the 83 olympia and a pic. of lee haney at his best in 91 and say samir was better because he was better than "lee" on the day!!!.. .. have you noticed how stupid your logic is........ as always

What does the caption in your pic say? ND says your better than me and you posted a pic from 1999 a contest where he was better than Nasser , that picture proved my point you dolt !!

Stop trying to escape your stupidity.

[doriancutlerman]

Would Chris' best beat Nasser at his best?

Chris had a better back by far, but Nasser was fucking huge. 

'99 Cormier versus peak Nasser (whatever year and contest that might be ... '95 Houston?  '96 Olympia?) -- all of the bullshitting aside, I honestly don't know.  I tend to favor Chris because he doesn't piss away the two back poses and he holds his own in the other compulsories.  He's one of the few 90's guys who does a side-chest like the old-timers.  Nasser is fucking insane in the front-double biceps, but then, so is Chris, who pulls a vacuum in that pose.  Nasser is undoubtedly bigger at his best.  But the fact remains, Chris IS more complete at HIS best, and he's no little fuck circa his 1999 Olympia shape. 

I honestly do not know who is best overall.  Nasser had the WOW factor all over Chris, but as I said, Nasser wasn't near as complete as Chris.  Moreover, Chris "hello, who dis?" Cormier SHOULD have won the '04 Arnold by a mile.

[NarcissisticDeity]

lol at the parrot talking about balance and proportion (which nasser had in a great way).. but when i ask him where were dorian's balance and proportion and symmetry in 97 he swallows my question deep in his ass without answering  ...

ND forget about nasser (i am sure you cant),.. was dorian more balanced and proportioned and symmetrical than shawn ray in 1997??.. .. shawn had them all and dorian didn't have any,.. no proportion/balance/symmetry between his right side and his left and between his different parts!!.. his back overpowered the rest of his upper physique in a bad way and his calves overpowered his upper legs clearly!!.. why wasnt he marked down for this during his posing routine and the final pose down?!!.. he won with perfect scores right?!..

lol at the parrot talking about balance and proportion (which nasser had in a great way).. but when i ask him where were dorian's balance and proportion and symmetry in 97 he swallows my question deep in his ass without answering  ...

Yes he was so great , everything was great on Nasser which is why he rarely won.   I answer every single question Team Moron can manage. I've explained to you more to symmetry & balance and proportion than you know , especially considering you think Nasser had in a great way  

Again pay attention and learn from your teacher , just because Dorian had a torn triceps & biceps you think that negates his other strengths? also in  balance & proportion is muscle lengths in relation to each other , Nasser has short legs AND a long torso and highish lats ( relative to whom he was competing with ) how about Nasser's forearms that lag behind his biceps/triceps? opppssss how about the fact he had a middleweights back and appeared lighter from the back?

Again you're making the rooking mistake of omitting the rest of the criteria which is all assessed at the same time , Nasser had an advantage in ' symmetry ' in 97 , did he has an advantage in symmetry AND balance AND proportion AND density AND dryness AND muscular bulk AND posing AND presentation ? keep cherry picking all the little things you think Nasser wins while ignoring the rest of the criteria. No wonder you think Nasser won , you don't have a clue on how contests are judged

Nasser could beat Dorian in a few poses and Dorian could still win with a perfect score , go learn how contests are judged.

ND forget about nasser (i am sure you cant),.. was dorian more balanced and proportioned and symmetrical than shawn ray in 1997??.. .. shawn had them all and dorian didn't have any,.. no proportion/balance/symmetry between his right side and his left and between his different parts!!.. his back overpowered the rest of his upper physique in a bad way and his calves overpowered his upper legs clearly!!.. why wasnt he marked down for this during his posing routine and the final pose down?!!.. he won with perfect scores right?!..

See above , stop micromanaging the contest into itty bitty pieces. You DO NOT know if Dorian wasn't marked down for anything you assumed he wasn't , Dorian could lose multiple poses and still win with a perfect score , want me to explain this to you yet again?

Pay attention and learn kid , after the judging both the high & low scores are tossed out which means Dorian could lose multiple poses and still win with a perfect score , the high & low scores are tossed out to protect everyone from blatant bias and favoritism , I'm sure Dorian did lose poses to Nasser especially from the front in 1997 but when ALL things are considered he beat him pretty soundly

Remember kid ALL ROUNDS ARE PHYSIQUE ROUNDS

class dismissed  

[NarcissisticDeity]

ND doesn't form his own opinions.  Because he's stated many times that judging is perfect and there are no biases, he must "back into" the decisions of the judges at each show, that's why he'll blindly argue that Dorian 97 deserved to beat the rest of the competition.

I form my own opinions and they are based on knowledge and facts , not excuses and ignorance. You can say with ' confidence ' Nasser won in 97 because you don't have a clue on how contests are judged. You are as biased and ignorant as they come added with a sprinkle of delusion

Again if the judges are flawed as is the judging , then Nasser never won a show either , he was gifted as the next guy , but guys like you will claim foolishly that somehow they judges got it right when he won lol

I was like you ignorant , I was bitching & moaning because I thought Flex won in 1993 , I cried about politics , Flex didn't pay his dues yet , he was robbed , and then I learned how contests were judged and then I could see how wrong I was and how far ahead Dorian was and how it wasn't even close.

I let go of bias and ignorance you should try it.




Team Hypocrite going strong for 2012

[berblexer]

Team Nasser vs ND Part MCMXCVIII

[superthick]

Nasser sucks dick, i dont know why all the love of him. he told me last time we had our date night that was full of oil, chris wins EVERY POSE.

why the sudden change of heart bigbob

[the_swami]

seems that some ppl forgot or "dont want to remember" how nasser looked at his best!!.. honestly it's not anything close between him and chris,.. both at their very best!!..

great and truthful post right here

Team Nasser 2012
bigger, better, stronger than ever!

[the_swami]

Nasser has and could beat guys with better backs and he has every part better than Dorian sans back

Riddle me this Bobs , how come Nasser NEVER beat Dorian? according to your logic it should have been a came walk , Nasser beats Dorian everwhere except two back shots yet never came close

please spare me the politics ploy it wont be entertained.

Nasser beat dorian 95-97 in all but one pose the RDB
unfortunately the corrupt judges did not award the rightful winner in those olympias
how can OAB Yates win with no upper arm, a blocky distended gut and obliques ? 
answer- a GIFT from his friends Manion and weinberger.
that i s the turth-

[NarcissisticDeity]

Nasser beat dorian 95-97 in all but one pose the RDB
unfortunately the corrupt judges did not award the rightful winner in those olympias
how can OAB Yates win with no upper arm, a blocky distended gut and obliques ? 
answer- a GIFT from his friends Manion and weinberger.
that i s the turth-

Oh stop it  you don't believe a word of this

[the_swami]

Showing your ignorance on how contests are judged again. both the high and low scores are toss out to ensure as fair as possible a result. and judges at the Olympia are handpicked for their consistency and lack of bias. Your problem is you think Nasser is as close to the tier 1 ones as you think he is and he's not his record ( facts ) prove this.

 

ND, you really know nothing about the what goes on in IFBB judging
you take as gospel what is printed in Flex mag
you are ignorant and brainwashed
if you have been involved in BB @ this level as others have been you wouldnt be the blind sheep you are

[Sherief Shalaby]

What does the caption in your pic say? ND says your better than me and you posted a pic from 1999 a contest where he was better than Nasser , that picture proved my point you dolt !!

Stop trying to escape your stupidity.

ND this was a JJJOOOKKKEEE

[Dr.J]

cc does look great in the pics