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Re: great statement by tbombz , the biggest obama supporter
« Reply #75 on: January 13, 2012, 10:19:07 PM »
I see nothing not on topic in my post.

And if you want the kind of service you get at the DMV involved in teaching higher education and medical services go for it, haha.

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« Reply #76 on: January 13, 2012, 10:21:38 PM »
your addressing something very different than what we were talking about.

i understand your sentiment. and i sympathize.  you might be interested to know that in marx' communist manifesto he states that everyone would HAVE to work, or else theyd go hungry.  not that im espousing communism.

socialism isnt about government entitlements, its about regulating big business so that the worlds resources are ebing put to their best use, workers and consumers are being treated fairly, and no one profits excessively.

If you read Marx you'd know that real socialism leads to communism dumbass. How are the few that pay for the many going to pay when the many keeps growing??? The population keeps rising and people like you want to enact policy that will encourage all these people to immigrate and jump on the dole. The only way they can pay is if they make more money=more taxes to pay for the increasing number of beta males. This creates a bigger gap which lead to increased envy and then revolution. People don't like getting handouts, because it reminds them that they're beta males that need to be taken care of--handouts fuel resentment.

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Re: great statement by tbombz , the biggest obama supporter
« Reply #77 on: January 13, 2012, 10:21:49 PM »
The end result of socialism is this: the population that doesnt pay in to society inevitably out breeds the 50% (due to lack of delayed gratification, education, etc) that are paying for their existence. In order for them to continue to pay for this continually growing underclass, they have to earn more money, which means the gap grows creating class envy, and ultimately the dissolution of society.

Who the fuck can't take care of themselves? You need the government to pay for your kids and put a roof over your head? The terms alpha and beta get thrown around here a lot. Well there's nothing more beta than that!



This. I take a lot of pride in my work ethic, that's how I was raised and why I'm pissed about the taxation issues.

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Re: great statement by tbombz , the biggest obama supporter
« Reply #78 on: January 13, 2012, 10:22:52 PM »
nobodys talking about supporting people who dont work. at least i wasnt. personally i dont believe in welfare, though i do believe in homeless shelters and food stamps.

theres no reason the government cant provide a public option for healthcare. usps is a reliable service. and education, maybe waivers are a good idea, but education through phd should be free for everyone if they can passs entrance exams and are staying caught up with their work.  the return on investment makes it more than worth it.  

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Re: great statement by tbombz , the biggest obama supporter
« Reply #79 on: January 13, 2012, 10:26:40 PM »
USPS is reliably bankrupt. You can't have it all ways dude. Money in, money out.


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Re: great statement by tbombz , the biggest obama supporter
« Reply #80 on: January 13, 2012, 10:26:55 PM »
If you read Marx you'd know that real socialism leads to communism dumbass. How are the few that pay for the many going to pay when the many keeps growing??? The population keeps rising and people like you want to enact policy that will encourage all these people to immigrate and jump on the dole. The only way they can pay is if they make more money=more taxes to pay for the increasing number of beta males. This creates a bigger gap which lead to increased envy and then revolution. People don't like getting handouts, because it reminds them that they're beta males that need to be taken care of--handouts fuel resentment.
more like the failure of communism on the global stage led to socialism.  socialism doesnt have to lead to communism. i think most people realize communism is a pipedream unworkable in the real world.

in socialism there doesnt even have to be any taxes. it could just simply be regulation on production. the free market takes care of everything else if you let it.

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Re: great statement by tbombz , the biggest obama supporter
« Reply #81 on: January 13, 2012, 10:27:24 PM »


This. I take a lot of pride in my work ethic, that's how I was raised and why I'm pissed about the taxation issues.

Yes because you're a man that can handle your business.
Ironically bodybuilding is supposed to be a manly pursuit, but there seem to be a lot of girls here that can't support themselves. Theres nothing manly about sitting around all day working out and looking at yourself in the mirror until you collect your government check and spend it all on supps and Nike

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« Reply #82 on: January 13, 2012, 10:31:41 PM »
more like the failure of communism on the global stage led to socialism.  socialism doesnt have to lead to communism. i think most people realize communism is a pipedream unworkable in the real world.

in socialism there doesnt even have to be any taxes. it could just simply be regulation on production. the free market takes care of everything else if you let it.

Food stamps? How about the government creating work for food programs and upon completion you get a small tent. Why not? Indians had to hunt and work for their food.

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Re: great statement by tbombz , the biggest obama supporter
« Reply #83 on: January 13, 2012, 10:34:22 PM »
Food stamps? How about the government creating work for food programs and upon completion you get a small tent. Why not? Indians had to hunt and work for their food.
have them doing what kind of work? would parents be required to do so? if so, what happens to their children when they are at work? what about those incapable of working, the mentally/physically diabled and senior citizens?  i could get behind that kind of idea if you take everything into consideration

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« Reply #84 on: January 13, 2012, 10:39:15 PM »
Public works--building roads, libraries, etc. whatever local government needs. Also the government should pay people that can't take care of themselves if they agree to become sterilized, only then will they receive any benefits. People that are injured or older will be tasked with stationary jobs. Some people will be tasked to watch the kids of others so they will be free to work.

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Re: great statement by tbombz , the biggest obama supporter
« Reply #85 on: January 13, 2012, 10:42:36 PM »
sounds good except sterilization. lmao

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« Reply #86 on: January 13, 2012, 10:42:53 PM »
I am sort of surprised how many support some of these views on here but schools have been teaching kids about how the big bad USA victimizes people for some time now. They just keep interjecting emotional need or payback into what we expect from government. I'm not saying everything is perfect or that I have absolutes as I've been around both sides a bit...but I do believe the USA was a better place to live in the past than it is now which is crazy given the great tech we have. The government is corrupt and perverse and half of people are really different from the other half.....so in 5 years I'll probably be growing my own food somewhere remote off the grid, haha.

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« Reply #87 on: January 13, 2012, 10:53:22 PM »
I am sort of surprised how many support some of these views on here but schools have been teaching kids about how the big bad USA victimizes people for some time now. They just keep interjecting emotional need or payback into what we expect from government. I'm not saying everything is perfect or that I have absolutes as I've been around both sides a bit...but I do believe the USA was a better place to live in the past than it is now which is crazy given the great tech we have. The government is corrupt and perverse and half of people are really different from the other half.....so in 5 years I'll probably be growing my own food somewhere remote off the grid, haha.

Dude, that's my ultimate goal. I'd love to be entirely self sufficient living off grid. And yeah I agree, the groundworks for these changes were laid by the social Marxist in the 60s. It's been downhill ever since then. Hopefully technology will outpace the decline; it's a close race.

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Re: great statement by tbombz , the biggest obama supporter
« Reply #88 on: January 13, 2012, 11:05:10 PM »
Yes because you're a man that can handle your business.
Ironically bodybuilding is supposed to be a manly pursuit, but there seem to be a lot of girls here that can't support themselves. Theres nothing manly about sitting around all day working out and looking at yourself in the mirror until you collect your government check and spend it all on supps and Nike



Don't talk about white trash, blacks, and mexicans this way ;D

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« Reply #89 on: January 13, 2012, 11:15:46 PM »
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« Reply #90 on: January 13, 2012, 11:58:45 PM »
What he means is the debt is inconsequential as long as nobody has the balls to come collect.

And he's right, the debt is not Obama's fault at all. Lot's of things Obama can be blamed for, that ain't one of them.

 inconsequential?  ::)

we are paying the interest on the debt all the time, to China other nations and institutions. and America was downgraded from AAA status which means the conditions of loans will suck substantially.

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Re: great statement by tbombz , the biggest obama supporter
« Reply #91 on: January 14, 2012, 09:27:33 AM »
I've fucking had it with you. I'm going nag the FUCK out of Ron till you're gone and ip banned for good. Quit stalking me queer.o

You have stalked me yet again, I post and you then post some rampaging response. 

If this quote get's you so mad I don't know what is wrong?  The Church would endorse that statement, so what is your problem with it?

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Re: great statement by tbombz , the biggest obama supporter
« Reply #92 on: January 14, 2012, 02:36:42 PM »
6th grade government class people, or did everyone drop out of school in the 5th grade?

Did we become a monarchy in the past 3 years, or do we have a system that has 535 members of CONGRESS that might have something to do with this...   

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Re: great statement by tbombz , the biggest obama supporter
« Reply #93 on: January 14, 2012, 03:47:47 PM »
inconsequential?  ::)

we are paying the interest on the debt all the time, to China other nations and institutions. and America was downgraded from AAA status which means the conditions of loans will suck substantially.
credit rating agencies are, for the most part, a big heaping pile of dogshit