Explosive Words: US media first to bomb Iran

[Shockwave]

Unless your point was that the Communists kicked Americas arse all the way back home - I cant see how you won - History reflects that The North koreans never yielded to a richer country with a far greater military technological presence - what you fail to realise is that if the USA actually could use what they had effectively, they would be World Force - but unfortunately, USA Military consists of people who's best idea thay have on a daily basis is to urinate on some victims of war while making crude jokes - the USA doesn't realise People dont mind others holding power, it is they way they weild that power that is so offensive.  You cant expect much from a country that elects a President with an IQ of less than 100 (Bush) - that there says it all.

A.North Korea's "military inferiority" was being backed by China as you so obviously were trying to point out. (Like you said, a half million men in one offensive). Again, thanks for proving my point that the American military can effectively engage and complete their objectives (driving the North Koreans/Chinese out of South Korea and back into their own borders) against a force that outnumbers them by overwhelming odds.
B.We werent trying to invade North Korea, we did push them back into their own country, yes... But we never tried to occupy and defeat them. - We were coming to the aid of South Korea who had been attacked by the North and overtaken by force. But I see you neglected to mention that, cause that destroys your whole "argument"
 
There is so many factual inaccuracies in your post I dont know where to start. You are simply making yourself look like a moron with your sad attempt at trolling, lol. The US IS a world force. Your premise that China is a threat to us is so grossly out of proportion its rediculous - they simply dont have the logistics to fight us anywhere on the globe. They have to transport all those troops, feed them, arm them, etc.. and they dont have a single aircraft carrier. That means no air support unless they have bases staged all around us. They would have to land their troops - which means either a land based assault or an air assault. Air assault is mostly ruled out due to their lack of a platform with which to launch their troop carrying aircraft and our AA capabilities. So, where are they going to land? Our coasts? Yeah no. Come up through mexico? Maybe if they like suicide. Canada? Same problems anywhere they come from. The fact is, for all your hatred of America... we have the most powerful, logisticaly capable, technologically sound, and tactically effective military in the world.

Our only threat is own own government and media. So instead of trying your pathetic attempts at trolling using our greatest strength (and examples that work against you, maybe you should have tried Vietnam), maybe you should go for our biggest weakness? Clearly you need all the help you can get, as you were failing so epically with the whole "You cant even beat the Chinese in a conflict I dont understand enough to argue

[Radical Plato]

A.North Korea's "military inferiority" was being backed by China as you so obviously were trying to point out. (Like you said, a half million men in one offensive). Again, thanks for proving my point that the American military can effectively engage and complete their objectives (driving the North Koreans/Chinese out of South Korea and back into their own borders) against a force that outnumbers them by overwhelming odds.
B.We werent trying to invade North Korea, we did push them back into their own country, yes... But we never tried to occupy and defeat them. - We were coming to the aid of South Korea who had been attacked by the North and overtaken by force. But I see you neglected to mention that, cause that destroys your whole "argument"
 
There is so many factual inaccuracies in your post I dont know where to start. You are simply making yourself look like a moron with your sad attempt at trolling, lol. The US IS a world force. Your premise that China is a threat to us is so grossly out of proportion its rediculous - they simply dont have the logistics to fight us anywhere on the globe. They have to transport all those troops, feed them, arm them, etc.. and they dont have a single aircraft carrier. That means no air support unless they have bases staged all around us. They would have to land their troops - which means either a land based assault or an air assault. Air assault is mostly ruled out due to their lack of a platform with which to launch their troop carrying aircraft and our AA capabilities. So, where are they going to land? Our coasts? Yeah no. Come up through mexico? Maybe if they like suicide. Canada? Same problems anywhere they come from. The fact is, for all your hatred of America... we have the most powerful, logisticaly capable, technologically sound, and tactically effective military in the world.

Our only threat is own own government and media. So instead of trying your pathetic attempts at trolling using our greatest strength (and examples that work against you, maybe you should have tried Vietnam), maybe you should go for our biggest weakness? Clearly you need all the help you can get, as you were failing so epically with the whole "You cant even beat the Chinese in a conflict I dont understand enough to argue

North Korea were only doing what your country attempts to do - trying to control someone else via dogma.  Future conflicts will  be over exactly the same things as always: trade, religion, resources, race, politics, ambition, greed, hatred, wealth, jealousy, rage, revenge and love.  In just over 10,000 years, since the dicovery of flint to the invention of the nuclear bomb - everything has changed beyong recognition, but people's desires, hopes and fears are essentially the same.  My point was how well the Chinese did with very little military resources, times have changed, and so has China's stability and bank balance - enjoy your USA - as informed people everywhere no it is in the beginnings of a long term decline, both economically and spiritually - USA reminds me of a dying sun violently destroying everything in it's path until it's death - yeah, thats right, I said it - The USA is the Deathstar or soon to be deadstar

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[The Showstoppa]

North Korea were only doing what your country attempts to do - trying to control someone else via dogma.  Future conflicts will  be over exactly the same things as always: trade, religion, resources, race, politics, ambition, greed, hatred, wealth, jealousy, rage, revenge and love.  In just over 10,000 years, since the dicovery of flint to the invention of the nuclear bomb - everything has changed beyong recognition, but people's desires, hopes and fears are essentially the same.  My point was how well the Chinese did with very little military resources, times have changed, and so has China's stability and bank balance - enjoy your USA - as informed people everywhere no it is in the beginnings of a long term decline, both economically and spiritually - USA reminds me of a dying sun violently destroying everything in it's path until it's death - yeah, thats right, I said it - The USA is the Deathstar or soon to be deadstar

Are you an aborigine?  Or do you just smell like one?

[Radical Plato]

A combined American-Israeli false flag operation will probably be the start of a conflict in the middle-east.

care to eloborate on the false flag operation - Getbiggers are always are a reliable source of classified information.

[freespirit]

care to eloborate on the false flag operation - Getbiggers are always are a reliable source of classified information.

Can't say too much about it. 

[Radical Plato]

Are you an aborigine?  Or do you just smell like one?

Personally, I don't know any aborigines, they don't like the white man, and for good reason - so i dont know what they smell like - for you to suggest that they smell bad indicates that maybe you know a little more than you may be leading on to.

[The Showstoppa]

Personally, I don't know any aborigines, they don't like the white man, and for good reason - so i dont know what they smell like - for you to suggest that they smell bad indicates that maybe you know a little more than you may be leading on to.

I have no idea what they smell like, I would imagine rotten potatoes and rancid cheese.....much like you.  Am I correct?

[mass243]

E-Kul, I like you and and agree on many things you've said on this thread but we all must agree China lacks on this.

They are economic power. They are military power in making. But they are not there yet.


Few key components pop up:

-Positioning/guidance system. GPS is american. They control it. In case of war they shut it down. Modern missiles etc. are supposed to be guided. Chinese can't do this the most effective way because they lack satellite navigation (inertial guidance of course available but I'm speaking the most effective way). There are only two of those systems in world now; GPS and GLONASS.

-Strategic aviation. aka huge bombers that make long distance flights to drop huge loads of bombs (mostly designed for nuke strikes but can be used with   conventional weapons as well). There are only two air forces in world possessing strike-capable strategic aviation.

-Navy, as stated earlier.
I'm not sure if China even possesses capability to "take down" US carriers. There are destroyers americans themselves have dubbed as "aircraft carrier killers". As far as I know, China doesn't have this caliber vessels.

-Air defense
Most capable air defense system in China (at least that I'm aware of) is Russian made S-300 system. That's obviously effective system for it's original purpose. Russians themselves are now putting S-400 in service (not sold abroad at this point) - this supposedly has the added capability of effectively detecting 'stealth'-objects... S-300 of course lacks this feature given it's age.
As everyone knows, USA has the most 'stealth' planes (various types) so being able to fight against them is very important.


China is coming. But the more sophisticated weapon systems take time to build. Heck, USA has been doing this since the ww2.

(my favorite subject, other than pussy, so forgive me my long ass post  )

[Shockwave]

E-Kul, I like you and and agree on many things you've said on this thread but we all must agree China lacks on this.

They are economic power. They are military power in making. But they are not there yet.


Few key components pop up:

-Positioning/guidance system. GPS is american. They control it. In case of war they shut it down. Modern missiles etc. are supposed to be guided. Chinese can't do this the most effective way because they lack satellite navigation (inertial guidance of course available but I'm speaking the most effective way). There are only two of those systems in world now; GPS and GLONASS.

-Strategic aviation. aka huge bombers that make long distance flights to drop huge loads of bombs (mostly designed for nuke strikes but can be used with   conventional weapons as well). There are only two air forces in world possessing strike-capable strategic aviation.

-Navy, as stated earlier.
I'm not sure if China even possesses capability to "take down" US carriers. There are destroyers americans themselves have dubbed as "aircraft carrier killers". As far as I know, China doesn't have this caliber vessels.

-Air defense
Most capable air defense system in China (at least that I'm aware of) is Russian made S-300 system. That's obviously effective system for it's original purpose. Russians themselves are now putting S-400 in service (not sold abroad at this point) - this supposedly has the added capability of effectively detecting 'stealth'-objects... S-300 of course lacks this feature given it's age.
As everyone knows, USA has the most 'stealth' planes (various types) so being able to fight against them is very important.


China is coming. But the more sophisticated weapon systems take time to build. Heck, USA has been doing this since the ww2.

(my favorite subject, other than pussy, so forgive me my long ass post  )

Indeed my friendly Russian loving foe.
Thats why Russia is the only country that could pose a military threat to the United States. However since our traitorous president is a douche, he's going to try and buy Russias friendship with the specs and info on our missle defense system (not that having Russia as an ally would be a bad thing, but trying to buy their friendship with our top secret defense system is totally ass-backwards. Besides, its unlikey for the top 2 powers to be actually be allies, REAL allies.)

You wont see me arguing that the country is in decline or in a make or break period for our existance, but to try and insinuate China presents a military threat (at this time) is laughable.

[Radical Plato]

E-Kul, I like you and and agree on many things you've said on this thread but we all must agree China lacks on this.

They are economic power. They are military power in making. But they are not there yet.


Few key components pop up:

-Positioning/guidance system. GPS is american. They control it. In case of war they shut it down. Modern missiles etc. are supposed to be guided. Chinese can't do this the most effective way because they lack satellite navigation (inertial guidance of course available but I'm speaking the most effective way). There are only two of those systems in world now; GPS and GLONASS.

-Strategic aviation. aka huge bombers that make long distance flights to drop huge loads of bombs (mostly designed for nuke strikes but can be used with   conventional weapons as well). There are only two air forces in world possessing strike-capable strategic aviation.

-Navy, as stated earlier.
I'm not sure if China even possesses capability to "take down" US carriers. There are destroyers americans themselves have dubbed as "aircraft carrier killers". As far as I know, China doesn't have this caliber vessels.

-Air defense
Most capable air defense system in China (at least that I'm aware of) is Russian made S-300 system. That's obviously effective system for it's original purpose. Russians themselves are now putting S-400 in service (not sold abroad at this point) - this supposedly has the added capability of effectively detecting 'stealth'-objects... S-300 of course lacks this feature given it's age.
As everyone knows, USA has the most 'stealth' planes (various types) so being able to fight against them is very important.


China is coming. But the more sophisticated weapon systems take time to build. Heck, USA has been doing this since the ww2.

(my favorite subject, other than pussy, so forgive me my long ass post  )

For your sake, I hope you are right - but not all you countrymen agree
March 2011
China’s nuclear arsenal poses the most serious “mortal threat” to the United States among nation states, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told the Senate on Thursday.

China, according to successive Pentagon reports to Congress, is building up its strategic nuclear forces and has spurned offers from the administration to begin talks on nuclear arms, missile defenses, space and cyberweapons, as well as an international agreement to limit the production of fissile material.

Defense officials have acknowledged that U.S. intelligence agencies have underestimated China's military capabilities. But the intelligence community is beginning to express more concerns about China's military buildup, which has been carried out largely in secret.

China’s leaders continue to stress asymmetric strategies to leverage China’s advantage while exploiting potential opponents’ perceived vulnerabilities,” the general said.

One asymmetric strategy China is pursuing is the use of computer-based cyberprobes into U.S. classified computer networks. Mr. Clapper said the cyber-activity is a “formidable concern.”

“The Chinese have made a substantial investment in this area, they have a very large organization devoted to it and they’re pretty aggressive,” Mr. Clapper said. “This is just another way in which they glean information about us and collect on us for technology purposes, so it’s a very formidable concern.”

Time will tell, but the Chinese these days care more about money than war - but time will tell

[Shockwave]

For your sake, I hope you are right - but not all you countrymen agree
March 2011
China’s nuclear arsenal poses the most serious “mortal threat” to the United States among nation states, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told the Senate on Thursday.

China, according to successive Pentagon reports to Congress, is building up its strategic nuclear forces and has spurned offers from the administration to begin talks on nuclear arms, missile defenses, space and cyberweapons, as well as an international agreement to limit the production of fissile material.

Defense officials have acknowledged that U.S. intelligence agencies have underestimated China's military capabilities. But the intelligence community is beginning to express more concerns about China's military buildup, which has been carried out largely in secret.

China’s leaders continue to stress asymmetric strategies to leverage China’s advantage while exploiting potential opponents’ perceived vulnerabilities,” the general said.

One asymmetric strategy China is pursuing is the use of computer-based cyberprobes into U.S. classified computer networks. Mr. Clapper said the cyber-activity is a “formidable concern.”

“The Chinese have made a substantial investment in this area, they have a very large organization devoted to it and they’re pretty aggressive,” Mr. Clapper said. “This is just another way in which they glean information about us and collect on us for technology purposes, so it’s a very formidable concern.”

Time will tell, but the Chinese these days care more about money than war - but time will tell

Nuclear threat is totally different than military threat - its classified on a completely different scale, out of obvious necessity. Anyone with Nuclear weapons and a delivery system presents a massive threat to the rest of the world - Nukes are the great equalizer. This has absolutley nothing to do with any of your earlier arguments, if 1 country fires of a nuclear weapon, guess what... the whole world goes up. 1 missle fired from china = every missle fired from the states = total nuclear destruction of both countries, and Nuclear fallout of most of the rest of the world. Hence why Nukes arent really discussed when discussing threat levels.
Countries like China know that if they fire one off, its going to mean their entire country would be wiped out (in addition to whatever theyre attacking), so its kind of a mute point. Nuclear weapons nowdays are a deterrent more than anything, no one thinks of offensive nuclear attacks, except the Muslim extremists who dream of aquiring one to use as terrorism weapons.

Thats what the big deal with Iran is - whereas the rest of the rational world knows that Nuclear weapons would be the end of everything and they dont really want that, the Muslim extremists would welcome their own death with open arms if it meant wiping out those they deem as infidels.

[tbombz]

Tbombz Iran hasn't started a war in over 200 years?

WTF makes you think Iran wants to bomb Israel? Which is muslim holy land? Makes no sense at all, do you think they want Iran to be leveled and disappear? Geezus

For Americans, you are soon surely to be drawn to a war with Iran, I think you would benefit from watching this documentary, Rick Steeves in Iran

why would a person kill themself?

[monstermunch]

[Shockwave]

The fact that we have built 9400 Nuclear warheads is a bit disturbing, lol.. Im pretty sure 1000 would have been plenty and the $ from the other 8400 could have been spent on, well... anything else. Lol.
Pretty sure 1000 Nukes is way overkill, wouldnt take half that to annihilate almost everything on this planet.

[BILL ANVIL]

I read somewhere once that stated the US has over 29 000 nuclear warheads in its possession..

[cross-of-iron]

I have a woman, I just read your post to her and she laughed - I have had a woman for past eight years - and unlike your BETA Male arse, I have her in line and under control.

Really?  Does she ask why you spend most of your day posting here when you don't even workout?
Who are you to be calling anyone beta you sniveling bed wetting shit stain.

[Shockwave]

Really?  Does she ask why you spend most of your day posting here when you don't even workout?
Who are you to be calling anyone beta you sniveling bed wetting shit stain.

Haha I missed that.
Dude trying to others beta's when he cries like a bitch about the actions of a country literally halfway across the globe that could not have any less to do with his.
Alphas dont use the words "alpha" and "beta"

And they sure as hell dont bitch and moan about "bullies" and how "mean" and "wrong" others their actions are. hahahah
 

[BILL ANVIL]

Haha I missed that.
Dude trying to others beta's when he cries like a bitch about the actions of a country literally halfway across the globe that could not have any less to do with his.
Beta's dont use the words "alpha" and "beta"

And they sure as hell dont bitch and moan about "bullies" and how "mean" and "wrong" others their actions are. hahahah
 

QFT!

[Radical Plato]

Really?  Does she ask why you spend most of your day posting here when you don't even workout?
Who are you to be calling anyone beta you sniveling bed wetting shit stain.

Well, while I am posting she is watching lorenzo fertitta defend the great nation of UFC from the ESPN naysayers - We live the way we want, self made people can do that.  Plus she has big titties that I am going to suckle later, plus I give her as many orgasms as she likes.  Would you like me to squeeze her tittie and take a pic for you - I am not working out at the moment, this is true, but I spent the best part of 20 years working out, and my body is enjoying the break, I dont overeat even though I dont work out, and still walk around at 110KG - because I am life long natural I have only lost a small amount of muscle  - lost a lot of strength though.  I will get back to it - but there is more to life the moving weights up & down.  I am sorry that you are angr due to long term roid use - I am picturing your red face now from the combination of exotic BB drugs and the fury that other posters inspire in you when you read posts that shatter your fragile illusions.

[OneMoreRep]

Pretty sure 1000 Nukes is way overkill, wouldnt take half that to annihilate almost everything on this planet.

Well, you know, you can never be too certain.

Always better to pack a little more and find yourself in excess versus packing too little and going hungry.
"1"

[monstermunch]

Are you saying the more cocks, the merrier?

[OneMoreRep]

Are you saying the more cocks, the merrier?

Always.

"1"

[Shockwave]

Well, you know, you can never be too certain.

Always better to pack a little more and find yourself in excess versus packing too little and going hungry.
"1"

Lol.
Better be able to wipe out everything on this planet 100 times, in case we missed one of those bastards the 1st 99x we turned the planet to glass. Lol.

[Xerxes]

why would a person kill themself?

You logic is impeccable. 

[tbombz]

You logic is impeccable. 

islamic extremists dont care about death homeboy