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MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« on: January 16, 2012, 07:31:18 AM »
This is the man who claimed in the last debate, in defense of his anti-semetic and racist newsletters, that "Martin Luther King, Jr. was one of my heroes." Yet, when it was his turn to vote on the King holiday, HE VOTED AGAINST IT. The bill that Dr. King risked his life and received constant death threats to see pass into law, The Civil Rights Act of 1964, Ron Paul was not in favor of, and STILL says he would have voted against...IN 2012.
We don't even need to go into the vile, disgusting comments he made about Dr. King in his news rag.
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But I digress...


Paul fights Washington spending, flies first class
Associated PressBy BRETT J. BLACKLEDGE and STEPHEN BRAUN | Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul has been spending large amounts on airfare as a congressman, flying first class on dozens of taxpayer-funded flights to his home state. The practice conflicts with the image that Paul portrays as the only presidential candidate serious about cutting federal spending.

Paul flew first class on at least 31 round-trip flights and 12 one-way flights since May 2009 when he was traveling between Washington and his district in Texas, according to a review by The Associated Press of his congressional office expenses. Four other round-trip tickets and two other one-way tickets purchased during the period were eligible for upgrades to first-class after they were bought, but those upgrades would not be documented in the expense records.

Paul, whose distrust of big government is the centerpiece of his presidential campaign, trusts the more expensive government rate for Continental Airlines when buying his tickets. Paul chose not to buy the cheaper economy tickets at a fraction of the price because they aren't refundable or as flexible for scheduling, his congressional staff said.

"We always get him full refundable tickets since the congressional schedule sometimes changes quickly," said Jeff Deist, Paul's chief of staff. Paul might have to pay out of his own pocket for canceled flights in some cases if he didn't buy refundable tickets, Deist said.

But records show that most of the flights for Paul were purchased well in advance and few schedule changes were necessary. Nearly two-thirds of the 49 tickets were purchased at least two weeks in advance, and 42 percent were bought at least three weeks in advance, the AP's review found.


Paul charged taxpayers nearly $52,000 on the more expensive tickets, or $27,621 more than the average Continental airfare for the flights between Washington and Houston, according to the AP's review of his congressional expenses and average airfares compiled by the Department of Transportation.

The more expensive tickets have other benefits as well, including allowing Paul to upgrade to first class when his staff reserves a flight because his frequent government travel gives him membership in an elite class of Continental customers who earn travel perks. Upgrades to first-class with cheaper fares are possible, at times limited to available seats days before the flight. But those upgrades are not guaranteed and some require ticket changes at the airport, according to the airline's frequent flyer rules.

The AP reviewed congressional travel before the Iowa caucuses for the two members of Congress running at the time — Paul and Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota. Bachmann later ended her presidential campaign.

House records show Bachmann, like most other congressional members, also paid the more expensive government rate for airfare. But her staff would not provide access to more detailed expense records that show when and what type of tickets were purchased.

Paul's congressional staff provided access to all expense records requested.

Congressional members don't have to pay the government rate for travel, but most do, including many like Paul and Bachmann who advocate cuts in federal spending.

"You could almost always beat the government rate," said Steve Ellis, vice president of the Washington-based Taxpayers for Common Sense, a federal budget watchdog group.
"They need to be walking the walk, and one of the ways they can do that is to be fiscally responsible for how they spend their member office money."

Jesse Benton, Paul's campaign manager, didn't respond to a written request to explain how Paul's use of more expensive airfare, which allows him to fly first class, corresponds with his commitment to cut federal spending. Instead, he sent a statement that started, "No one is more committed to cutting spending than Dr. Paul."

But Paul's congressional travel conflicts with claims in campaign appearances that he's the most frugal and serious deficit hawk in the race.

"The talk you hear in Washington is pure talk, because there is nobody suggesting, the other candidates are not talking about real cuts," Paul said in a speech to supporters last week after his second-place finish in New Hampshire.

He has proposed cutting $1 trillion from the federal budget during his first year as president, and has confronted other candidates in public forums as "big government conservatives."

"You're a big spender, that's all there is to it," Paul told former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania during a GOP debate in New Hampshire.

Paul boasts on his website about declining other congressional perks, such as a pension and all-expense-paid travel "junkets" that other lawmakers take. And he says he regularly returns money from his congressional account to the treasury.

But when it comes to his congressional travel, Paul has opted not to search for cheaper airfares that could mean returning more of his office account to the treasury, which uses any money returned by House or Senate members to help reduce the federal deficit.

Paul paid $51,972 for his government-rate flights between Washington and Houston between May 2009 and March 2011, or more than twice the $24,351 average airfare on Continental for travel between Washington and Houston. The average airfare figure represents the price for all tickets purchased for Continental flights between Washington and Houston, including economy and first-class travel, according to the Transportation Department's Domestic Airline Fares Consumer Report, which collects airfare information for the nation's busiest travel routes.

Paul's staff regularly booked him in first class on flights when tickets were purchased, according to expense records. His office paid between $1,217 and $1,311 for each round-trip flight, compared to the average airfare for that trip ranging from $528 to $760, according to the airline fares consumer report.

The period reviewed by the AP was the most recent period for which complete congressional expense records were available.
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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2012, 07:33:58 AM »


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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2012, 07:35:19 AM »
This is the best you could come up with? Who gives a shit? I fly first class, if you have the funds, what's the problem??
As far as MLK, that's a non issue. The man was a criminal, a philanderer and a plagiarist. Next subject

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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2012, 07:36:26 AM »
I guess not everyone 'gets' the idea that the government shouldn't be in the business of making mandated federal holidays and of forcing businesses to accept customers they don't want.

Benny, if you ran a business, would you want the federal government to force you to accept klansmen or neo-nazis as customers?

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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2012, 07:59:41 AM »
Oh brother. We have a bought and paid for President whose singular issue is race...scared of RP, a guy who is more real than any of the candidates.

Beating this race thing to death, it's over....time to become citizens of this country. No more excuses.

And to worry about what somebody spends when we have Obama as President. That's some funny shit.

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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2012, 08:23:37 AM »
Pretty telling when the only things they can attack him for is the plane tickets.he chooses.
Fyi, posting the dropout pic when he's largely considered to be in 2nd place shows how retarded you are.
This guy is the real deal, and we can see how badly hd scares you benny.

BTW attacking him for flying 1st class when Obama spent 4 million on his trip to hawaii is beyond retarded.

Scared Benny, you're scared and lashing out with anything you can find.

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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2012, 08:38:31 AM »
Ha! Ron Paul probably gets FREE First Class upgrades for simply flying so much! It doesnt take all that many miles and segments to qualify....
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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2012, 08:47:44 AM »
This is beyond pathetic

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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2012, 08:52:52 AM »
Another epic backfire


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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2012, 08:53:51 AM »
Ron Paul scares the mierda out of Benny B      ;D

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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2012, 08:55:50 AM »
Looks like the Obama gravy train for the lower common denominators of society is about to come to a screeching halt.

November 2012 Barry O will be sucking Rahm Emanuel's shaft for a job back in Chicago.

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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2012, 09:06:47 AM »
How appropriate that you start a thread about a phony on Martin Luther King Day.

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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2012, 09:08:10 AM »
How appropriate that you start a thread about a phony on Martin Luther King Day.

Or as Runningmom calls it:

"James Earl Ray Day"
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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2012, 09:24:42 AM »
Benny B...


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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2012, 11:50:07 AM »
Or as Runningmom calls it:

"James Earl Ray Day"
 ;D

Did she really say that? Not that I'm surprised.

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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2012, 01:24:51 PM »
Did she really say that? Not that I'm surprised.

Gullible as a goldfish.  ;D

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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2012, 01:33:04 PM »
Benny B - one of the most racist people on getbig.

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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2012, 01:40:42 PM »
Jesus, you ever try to prepare for a meeting or speech in coach?

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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2012, 01:41:21 PM »
t's graduation day for the all-black Bedford Stuyvesant High School, and
the kids are all getting diplomas except for Rodney. He's their star
basketball player, who could have gotten a full scholarship to go to any
school in the country, but since he didn't pass enough classes, he wasn't
even going to graduate.

As the diplomas are being handed out, Rodney shows up, and all the kids
start chanting, "Give Rodney a chance, give Rodney a chance."

So the principal says, "Okay, Rodney. If you can answer this question, I'll
gives you a diploma and you can graduate. What is three plus two?"

Rodney replies, "Eight."

The principal says, "No, it is five. You can't graduate."

The crowd chants, "Give Rodney another chance, give Rodney another chance."

The principal says, "Okay, Rodney. If you can answer this question, I'll
gives you a diploma and you can graduate. What is five minus one?"

Rodney replies, "Two."

The principal says, "Sorry, Rodney, it is four. You can't graduate."

The crowd chants, "Give Rodney another chance, give Rodney another chance."

The principal says, "Okay, Rodney, this your last chance... what is three
times three?"

Rodney answers, "Nine."

The crowd pauses... and then they start chanting, "Give Rodney another
chance... give Rodney another chance..."

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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2012, 01:47:18 PM »
This is the man who claimed in the last debate, in defense of his anti-semetic and racist newsletters, that "Martin Luther King, Jr. was one of my heroes." Yet, when it was his turn to vote on the King holiday, HE VOTED AGAINST IT. The bill that Dr. King risked his life and received constant death threats to see pass into law, The Civil Rights Act of 1964, Ron Paul was not in favor of, and STILL says he would have voted against...IN 2012.
We don't even need to go into the vile, disgusting comments he made about Dr. King in his news rag.
 ::)  
But I digress...


Paul fights Washington spending, flies first class
Associated PressBy BRETT J. BLACKLEDGE and STEPHEN BRAUN | Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul has been spending large amounts on airfare as a congressman, flying first class on dozens of taxpayer-funded flights to his home state. The practice conflicts with the image that Paul portrays as the only presidential candidate serious about cutting federal spending.

Paul flew first class on at least 31 round-trip flights and 12 one-way flights since May 2009 when he was traveling between Washington and his district in Texas, according to a review by The Associated Press of his congressional office expenses. Four other round-trip tickets and two other one-way tickets purchased during the period were eligible for upgrades to first-class after they were bought, but those upgrades would not be documented in the expense records.

Paul, whose distrust of big government is the centerpiece of his presidential campaign, trusts the more expensive government rate for Continental Airlines when buying his tickets. Paul chose not to buy the cheaper economy tickets at a fraction of the price because they aren't refundable or as flexible for scheduling, his congressional staff said.

"We always get him full refundable tickets since the congressional schedule sometimes changes quickly," said Jeff Deist, Paul's chief of staff. Paul might have to pay out of his own pocket for canceled flights in some cases if he didn't buy refundable tickets, Deist said.

But records show that most of the flights for Paul were purchased well in advance and few schedule changes were necessary. Nearly two-thirds of the 49 tickets were purchased at least two weeks in advance, and 42 percent were bought at least three weeks in advance, the AP's review found.


Paul charged taxpayers nearly $52,000 on the more expensive tickets, or $27,621 more than the average Continental airfare for the flights between Washington and Houston, according to the AP's review of his congressional expenses and average airfares compiled by the Department of Transportation.

The more expensive tickets have other benefits as well, including allowing Paul to upgrade to first class when his staff reserves a flight because his frequent government travel gives him membership in an elite class of Continental customers who earn travel perks. Upgrades to first-class with cheaper fares are possible, at times limited to available seats days before the flight. But those upgrades are not guaranteed and some require ticket changes at the airport, according to the airline's frequent flyer rules.

The AP reviewed congressional travel before the Iowa caucuses for the two members of Congress running at the time — Paul and Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota. Bachmann later ended her presidential campaign.

House records show Bachmann, like most other congressional members, also paid the more expensive government rate for airfare. But her staff would not provide access to more detailed expense records that show when and what type of tickets were purchased.

Paul's congressional staff provided access to all expense records requested.

Congressional members don't have to pay the government rate for travel, but most do, including many like Paul and Bachmann who advocate cuts in federal spending.

"You could almost always beat the government rate," said Steve Ellis, vice president of the Washington-based Taxpayers for Common Sense, a federal budget watchdog group.
"They need to be walking the walk, and one of the ways they can do that is to be fiscally responsible for how they spend their member office money."

Jesse Benton, Paul's campaign manager, didn't respond to a written request to explain how Paul's use of more expensive airfare, which allows him to fly first class, corresponds with his commitment to cut federal spending. Instead, he sent a statement that started, "No one is more committed to cutting spending than Dr. Paul."

But Paul's congressional travel conflicts with claims in campaign appearances that he's the most frugal and serious deficit hawk in the race.

"The talk you hear in Washington is pure talk, because there is nobody suggesting, the other candidates are not talking about real cuts," Paul said in a speech to supporters last week after his second-place finish in New Hampshire.

He has proposed cutting $1 trillion from the federal budget during his first year as president, and has confronted other candidates in public forums as "big government conservatives."

"You're a big spender, that's all there is to it," Paul told former Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania during a GOP debate in New Hampshire.

Paul boasts on his website about declining other congressional perks, such as a pension and all-expense-paid travel "junkets" that other lawmakers take. And he says he regularly returns money from his congressional account to the treasury.

But when it comes to his congressional travel, Paul has opted not to search for cheaper airfares that could mean returning more of his office account to the treasury, which uses any money returned by House or Senate members to help reduce the federal deficit.

Paul paid $51,972 for his government-rate flights between Washington and Houston between May 2009 and March 2011, or more than twice the $24,351 average airfare on Continental for travel between Washington and Houston. The average airfare figure represents the price for all tickets purchased for Continental flights between Washington and Houston, including economy and first-class travel, according to the Transportation Department's Domestic Airline Fares Consumer Report, which collects airfare information for the nation's busiest travel routes.

Paul's staff regularly booked him in first class on flights when tickets were purchased, according to expense records. His office paid between $1,217 and $1,311 for each round-trip flight, compared to the average airfare for that trip ranging from $528 to $760, according to the airline fares consumer report.

The period reviewed by the AP was the most recent period for which complete congressional expense records were available.


From Wikipedia

Paul was critical of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, arguing that it sanctioned federal interference in the labor market and did not improve race relations. He once remarked: "The Civil Rights Act of 1964 not only violated the Constitution and reduced individual liberty; it also failed to achieve its stated goals of promoting racial harmony and a color-blind society".[208] Paul opposes affirmative action.[209]



Well...he at least has a valid reason for opposing the Civil Rights Act.  We don't have racial harmony...we don't have a color blind society.  

Opposing the Civil Rights Act does not make you a racist and I'd prefer honesty from the front than deception from behind.  A lot of politicans like Newt and Santorum say that they aren't racist but their actions show otherwise.    
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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2012, 01:48:03 PM »
GIVE RODNEY A CHANCE!
GIVE RODNEY A CHANCE!

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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2012, 01:49:48 PM »
Johnny what grades did you get in school?

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Re: MORE of Ron Paul's PHONINESS Exposed
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2012, 01:51:19 PM »
Johnny what grades did you get in school?

NINE!