just started my testo cycle

[Cleanest Natural]

use another compound. Never use test alone its balonie.

test alone is great ..

[growth]

500mg per week taken 3 days apart is good advice with no other components.
50mg per day might not feel much different than taking nothing after a few weeks when you endogenous test has shut down.

So if it does not feel that good anymore being on test up the dose a bit

[Wiggs]

better gains with an androgen and anabolic together....Test/deca, test/eq, test/primo, test/winny...whatever. test alone is ok it's not great.

[Voland]

test alone is great ..

I think he'd do better of 900 Eq/week and D-bol @ 50mg/day 4 weeks on 4-6weeks off and so on.

[Cleanest Natural]

I think he'd do better of 900 Eq/week and D-bol @ 50mg/day 4 weeks on 4-6weeks off and so on.

I think it is purely a dosage issue rather than getting all scientific about it

Just pop in test as much as he can afford

[whitewidow]

throw in 600mg EQ per week and 40-50mg dbol daily then you got yourself a cycle.if you can afford HGH use at least 4-6 IU's if you can afford more use 6-8 Iu's

[wes]

All great advice but I still stick to my guns at 500 mgs. test per week....he`s been clean for years,he`s not training for a contest,why waste cash,he can always bump it up after gains slow down.

USE YOUR FUCKING HEADS!! 

[Swede!]

fucking americans and their 10g WEEKLY FIRST CYCLE BABY! ALL OUT!!! 500MG AINT SHIT!!! 1g ED FIRST DAY IN THE GYM!!!  NOT JUST ONE COMPUND do THREE!!! ALL OUT!!! RIGHT AWAY!!!!!!


500mg e5d is a good first cycle. (I know you took some dbol when you were 11 like all turks do) You will see how you react and can use that knowledge in cycles after. Good luck!
Starting with two compunds imo would be stupid since if you get Bad effects, side effects, you dont know which one causes it.

12 weeks?

500mg e5d 12 weeks in the standard first cycle Outside of US.

[wes]

fucking americans and their 10g WEEKLY FIRST CYCLE BABY! ALL OUT!!! 500MG AINT SHIT!!! 1g ED FIRST DAY IN THE GYM!!! 


500mg e5d is a good first cycle. (I know you took some bdol when you were 11 like all turks do) You will see how you react and can use that knowledge in cycles after. Good luck!
Starting with two compunds imo would be stupid since if you get Bad effects, side effects, you dont know which one causes it.

12 weeks?

500mg e5d 12 weeks in the standard first cycle Outside of US.

Thank you for the voice of reason.

[Cleanest Natural]

Thank Brock you chimmied in otherwise he could've killed himself  

[Xerxes]

Swede, stop hating on Americans.

[Swede!]

Thank you for the voice of reason.

dont understand why people want to rush EVERYTHING lol.

Its also a  good first cycle to see if he can stay serious and eat good and train hard.

[Swede!]

Swede, stop hating on Americans.

 

[wes]

dont understand why people want to rush EVERYTHING lol.

GENERATION NOTHINGNESS !!

[Swede!]

GENERATION NOTHINGNESS !!

...I remember when I was Sooo impressed with this photo haha. "omg hes so heavy!!"
Oh the good ol days.

[Voland]

GENERATION NOTHINGNESS !!

time is futile. Carpe diem!

[wes]

...I remember when I was Sooo impressed with this photo haha. "omg hes so heavy!!"
Oh the good ol days.

I never thought the guy would go anywhere,though he did look good in his only amateur win.

Too much hype for nothing extraordinary IMO.

[Swede!]

I never thought the guy would go anywhere,though he did look good in his only amateur win.

Too much hype for nothing extraordinary IMO.

this photo is still impressive though



I guess he upped the dosages without needing it

[DK II]

fucking americans and their 10g WEEKLY FIRST CYCLE BABY! ALL OUT!!! 500MG AINT SHIT!!! 1g ED FIRST DAY IN THE GYM!!!  NOT JUST ONE COMPUND do THREE!!! ALL OUT!!! RIGHT AWAY!!!!!!


500mg e5d is a good first cycle. (I know you took some dbol when you were 11 like all turks do) You will see how you react and can use that knowledge in cycles after. Good luck!
Starting with two compunds imo would be stupid since if you get Bad effects, side effects, you dont know which one causes it.

12 weeks?

500mg e5d 12 weeks in the standard first cycle Outside of US.

In Germany it's usually 16 or 20 weeks.

If you are already on, just stay on for a while, 8 or 10 weeks is utter bullshit.

[Voland]

In Germany it's usually 16 or 20 weeks.

If you are already on, just stay on for a while, 8 or 10 weeks is utter bullshit.

Once you're ON you're ON. You can no longer be a natty so why stopping?
The only reason i see for stopping is if i ran out of cash.
10weeks is a joke.

[Swede!]

In Germany it's usually 16 or 20 weeks.

If you are already on, just stay on for a while, 8 or 10 weeks is utter bullshit.

20 to me sounds A lot for first real cycle.

and here another rule which some people would laugh at. are you ready.. after the cycle, stay Off for twice the ammount of weeks you were on

    

[Voland]

20 to me sounds A lot for first real cycle.

and here another rule which some people would laugh at. are you ready.. after the cycle, stay Off for twice the ammount of weeks you were on

    

If you are running EQ in your first cycle it makes sense to stay for 20-25 weeks.

[Swede!]

If you are running EQ in your first cycle it makes sense to stay for 20-25 weeks.

yes, eq should be longer. I thought he was talking about testo E though. Should "kick" after 4-6 weeks and then another solid 6 weeks on.

If he reacts good to testo e. maby anotehr 12-15 weeks cycle a little bit higher dosages and include prop for the first 6 weeks for a reward right away.

[wes]

this photo is still impressive though



I guess he upped the dosages without needing it

Looks good, but legs too big,but it`s Ok,because having good proportions today is not a big deal.

[wes]

In Germany it's usually 16 or 20 weeks.

If you are already on, just stay on for a while, 8 or 10 weeks is utter bullshit.

^THIS^

Once you're ON you're ON. You can no longer be a natty so why stopping?
The only reason i see for stopping is if i ran out of cash.
10weeks is a joke.

^AND THIS ^............personal decision though.