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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2012, 12:25:35 PM »
Doesn't really matter, because whichever loser wins the nomination is going to be our next president. 

you're dreaming man

RP or Santorum are DOA in the general election

Romney doesn't really have a prayer either

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2012, 12:26:05 PM »
you're dreaming man

RP or Santorum are DOA in the general election

Romney doesn't really have a prayer either

LOL>  He is already tied w ghettobama now!   

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2012, 12:26:52 PM »
I'm not pinning my hopes on anyone.  I'm voting for ABO, again. 

Yes, I thought Bachmann and Cain were qualified, and immensely better than Obama.  

I don't bet on anything.  Has nothing to do with how certain I am.  Just bump this thread after the election in November and we'll see who got it right.  Could be me, could be you. 

those two were the least qualified

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2012, 12:27:11 PM »
Polls change by the week.

Just ask Newt and Cain.

Romney vs. Obama polls have been pretty consistent.  So have the polls showing how badly Obama's standing is with independents.

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #29 on: January 17, 2012, 12:27:48 PM »
LOL>  He is already tied w ghettobama now!   

ghettobama?

I thought you retards thought Obama was an out of touch elitist

can't you idiots at least make up your mind on that?

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #30 on: January 17, 2012, 12:29:26 PM »
Romney vs. Obama polls have been pretty consistent.  So have the polls showing how badly Obama's standing is with independents.

polls are almost meaningless at this point

Obama will dismantle Romney (and fitting description since he seems to be a robot) when they go head to head

Romney only hope is if he picks Christie as a running mate

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2012, 12:35:04 PM »
polls are almost meaningless at this point

Obama will dismantle Romney (and fitting description since he seems to be a robot) when they go head to head

Romney only hope is if he picks Christie as a running mate

Just like those mid-terms right bro?   

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2012, 12:43:05 PM »
Just like those mid-terms right bro?   

mid terms are not the general election but if you want to hang your hopes on that go right ahead but I don't even see why you would bother since you think Obama is going to withdraw from the race anyway (let's use that as 2nd reason on the list of why you're dumber than dumb)

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2012, 12:43:50 PM »
mid terms are not the general election but if you want to hang your hopes on that go right ahead but I don't even see why you would bother since you think Obama is going to withdraw from the race anyway (let's use that as 2nd reason on the list of why you're dumber than dumb)


Between fast and furious and obamas fake BC, I think he will be forced to step down.   


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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2012, 12:46:46 PM »

Between fast and furious and obamas fake BC, I think he will be forced to step down.   

yes, we've already established that you're dumb

are you going for retarded now?

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2012, 03:15:15 PM »

Between fast and furious and obamas fake BC, I think he will be forced to step down.   



That is because you are an idiot.  I can only guess thoughts like this keep you awake during the night while flicking your bean.

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #36 on: January 17, 2012, 03:21:06 PM »

Between fast and furious and obamas fake BC, I think he will be forced to step down.   



LOL 77 thousand posts mostly on obama and this guy is still asking for a birth certificate?

LOL you need serious help man, get a life, read a book.

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #37 on: January 17, 2012, 03:23:25 PM »
LOL 77 thousand posts mostly on obama and this guy is still asking for a birth certificate?

LOL you need serious help man, get a life, read a book.

I read many books.   Just finished the one about the navy seals, finished another about gold and silver, reading another on general economy, etc.


BTW - you are in no position whatsoever to call me out considering you still believe in obamacare and keynsian bullshit.   Perhaps it is you who needs to read a few books, not me.   

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #38 on: January 17, 2012, 04:19:05 PM »
I'm thinking Newt might get a boost in SC, so Perry will be the next to go....maybe...

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #39 on: January 17, 2012, 04:46:25 PM »
I read many books.   Just finished the one about the navy seals, finished another about gold and silver, reading another on general economy, etc.


BTW - you are in no position whatsoever to call me out considering you still believe in obamacare and keynsian bullshit.   Perhaps it is you who needs to read a few books, not me.   

you have already showed that you do not understand keynes and his principles, the stimulus was keynes inspired yes but it is a bastard of his original thoughts. Tying keynes to obama and then bashing him like he isnt/was one of the most important economic minds of history is rather sad.

the fact that you are talking about birth certificates indicates you either are purposely acting and saying these things or you are completely submersed in propaganda.

people who request obamas BC are stupid, they are stupid people.

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #40 on: January 17, 2012, 04:48:16 PM »
you have already showed that you do not understand keynes and his principles, the stimulus was keynes inspired yes but it is a bastard of his original thoughts. Tying keynes to obama and then bashing him like he isnt/was one of the most important economic minds of history is rather sad.

the fact that you are talking about birth certificates indicates you either are purposely acting and saying these things or you are completely submersed in propaganda.

people who request obamas BC are stupid, they are stupid people.

Tell that to the judge in GA who is demanding Obie produce his records.

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #41 on: January 17, 2012, 04:49:48 PM »
you have already showed that you do not understand keynes and his principles, the stimulus was keynes inspired yes but it is a bastard of his original thoughts. Tying keynes to obama and then bashing him like he isnt/was one of the most important economic minds of history is rather sad.

the fact that you are talking about birth certificates indicates you either are purposely acting and saying these things or you are completely submersed in propaganda.

people who request obamas BC are stupid, they are stupid people.
Keynesian economics do not work in the real world though.

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2012, 10:45:37 AM »
Keynesian economics do not work in the real world though.

how do you figure? the recent stimulus did its job, the obvious criticisms is that special interests were taken care of which completely undermines it's intent. It saved numerou industries from collapse, helped remove you guys from the plummet towards depression and didnt cause inflation like everyone said. It isnt meant to be an ongoing thing, its not meant to be a policy that is continuous, but instead it should be used in times of economic problems, once implemented other fiscal policies should take over to correct the problems. If you dont get to the etiology of the problem nothing will work, that is what we are seeing.

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #43 on: January 18, 2012, 11:07:38 AM »
Tell that to the judge in GA who is demanding Obie produce his records.

What's going to be your little reaction when this doesn't pan out?  Another 70,000 posts?

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2012, 12:51:13 PM »
how do you figure? the recent stimulus did its job, the obvious criticisms is that special interests were taken care of which completely undermines it's intent. It saved numerou industries from collapse, helped remove you guys from the plummet towards depression and didnt cause inflation like everyone said. It isnt meant to be an ongoing thing, its not meant to be a policy that is continuous, but instead it should be used in times of economic problems, once implemented other fiscal policies should take over to correct the problems. If you dont get to the etiology of the problem nothing will work, that is what we are seeing.

We're in the weakest post-recession recovery since the Great Depression. That doesn't seem like good evidence of the stimulus "working."

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #45 on: January 18, 2012, 12:51:50 PM »
We're in the weakest post-recession recovery since the Great Depression. That doesn't seem like good evidence of the stimulus "working."

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #46 on: January 18, 2012, 04:21:12 PM »
We're in the weakest post-recession recovery since the Great Depression. That doesn't seem like good evidence of the stimulus "working."

i assumed you would make the necessary assumptions to understand what i said, it seems however that you have not and you have thus but me in a terrible position, one of dominance, i dont like to fuck kids.

the stimulus was not big enough, it didnt off set the decline it merely slowed them down and halted them in certain industries (automotive for example). So saying the stimulus did not work is disingenuous and down playing the role keynes had in the economic recovery after war, and the great depression.\\=

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2012, 05:01:45 PM »
i assumed you would make the necessary assumptions to understand what i said, it seems however that you have not and you have thus but me in a terrible position, one of dominance, i dont like to fuck kids.

the stimulus was not big enough, it didnt off set the decline it merely slowed them down and halted them in certain industries (automotive for example). So saying the stimulus did not work is disingenuous and down playing the role keynes had in the economic recovery after war, and the great depression.\\=


Fuck off Krugman

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #48 on: January 18, 2012, 06:50:18 PM »
i assumed you would make the necessary assumptions to understand what i said, it seems however that you have not and you have thus but me in a terrible position, one of dominance, i dont like to fuck kids.

the stimulus was not big enough, it didnt off set the decline it merely slowed them down and halted them in certain industries (automotive for example). So saying the stimulus did not work is disingenuous and down playing the role keynes had in the economic recovery after war, and the great depression.\\=

Lol, no.
Not only no, but fuck no.
This has nothing to do with Keynesian econ, but still pertains.
Heres an idea, lets bail out a failing company instead of letting them reach their inevitable conclusion; failure.
If no one is buying their shitty cars, we should NOT bail them out so they can cripple on until they go bankrupt again because no one buys their shitty cars and because the Union makes them pay people they laid off 60%+ of their wage even though they arent doing shit.

Yeah, thats a great idea. Lol.
I understand those companies shutting down would have fucked a lot of employees.
BUT - the stimulous was fucked. The people that created the recession, giving out the loans, and essentially stealing our money, recieved MORE of our money because their bad business practices caused them to fail?
Not to mention, lets give companies that have lied and given their CEO's huge bonuses even while the company is going under MORE of the money they stole from tax payers, and then be completely shocked when they turn around and do the same thing again.

Sorry, but the stimulous was epic fail, all it did was take more of the tax payers money and funnel it directly into the pockets of those that caused the problem in the 1st place.
Hence the reason it may work in theory, but in the real world never.

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Re: Which loser will drop out of the GOP field next?
« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2012, 06:48:40 AM »
i assumed you would make the necessary assumptions to understand what i said, it seems however that you have not and you have thus but me in a terrible position, one of dominance, i dont like to fuck kids.

the stimulus was not big enough, it didnt off set the decline it merely slowed them down and halted them in certain industries (automotive for example). So saying the stimulus did not work is disingenuous and down playing the role keynes had in the economic recovery after war, and the great depression.\\=


And how do you know that the stimulus was not big enough? How do you know that it worked and that without it, things would have been worse?

Because if you examine it theoretically; the idea of fiscal stimulus makes no sense. All that it amounts to is taking water from one end of the pool and pouring it into the other end. Every dollar the government borrows in order to deficit spend is a dollar that is not in the private economy. Moreover, even the Keynesians would say that in the long run, prices would fall in order to accommodate full employment and output. Yet four-five years later now, and the economy is hobbling along barely recovering and unemployment is still above 8% - despite the fact that Obama's economic team predicted that unemployment would not exceed 8% if the stimulus were passed. Hardly anyone would argue that the majority of prices in an economy stay "sticky" for four years at a time. If anything, just allowing prices to fall and businesses to fail would have returned us to full employment and output at a quicker rate.

Furthermore, when you look at the historical record, it seems to go against what you're saying. The Great Depression truly lasted till 1945, when the war ended, government spending was slashed, the economy was deregulated, taxes were cut, and there was a budget surplus. Keynesians predicted a massive depression after WWII, yet the private economy boomed. It seemed like all throughout the Great Depression, policymakers tried fiscal stimuli yet repeatedly failed. Likewise, if you look at the experience of Japan and its "lost decade," it seems like multiple fiscal stimuli failed. And this seems to pair up perfectly with the current economy which is sluggish at best "despite" a fiscal stimulus that was at least 7% of GDP, if not more when you accurately include all automatic stabilizers. And then of course, there also was multiple extensive and aggressive monetary stimuli which apparently didn't work.

Compare that to an episode like the Depression of 1920-21: there was a bank panic, there was no monetary stimulus, the money supply shrunk significantly, unemployment initially skyrocketed, the initial decline in output was greater than the initial decline in output in 1929-30, the price level fell by 50%, the government slashed spending and cut taxes while running a budget surplus, and guess what? The economy quickly returned to full employment and output despite the fact that the initial downturn was more severe than that of the Great Depression and despite the fact that the government did everything "wrong" by allowing the money supply to shrink, cutting spending, and running budget surpluses.

Doesn't this perhaps prove that the Keynesians were wrong while the classical economists (e.g. Say, Ricardo, Mill, etc.) were right?