1950s and 1960s bodybuilders - were they natural back then?

[JBGRAY]

Of course they'd disappear on stage with today's BBs....but....were they natural?  Just heavy lifting and meat and potatoes?

What steroids, if any, existed back then?  What did they use?  I'm curious, because I really don't see builds like these anymore (unless its just the hairstyles and clothing that is throwing me off).  Whatever it was, it couldn't have been that bad, as most of these bodybuilders weren't dropping dead like flies and living well into their golden years.

[Suspiria321]

They were using dbol.

[wes]

They were using dbol.

X2

[JBGRAY]

They were using dbol.

That's it???  Christ, I just got some but haven't used it yet.....I'm reading I need all this different stuff to go with it which is why I'm holding out.

If it's just dbol, it's time to take 'em.

[BB]

Anyone who was top tier after WWII and certainly in the 50's and 60's, was probably on steroids, ranging from a few Dianabol a day to a decent amount of stuff.

Dianabol, Test, Anadrol, Anavar, etc...... was all available by then. The only things really new in the 40+ years are the high dosing protocols, HGH, and insulin.

[Megalodon]

and synthol

[the trainer]

If you are a average gym rat you can get pretty buff off just dianabol tabs,you could also add your test, but that is all you need to look buff on the street, if you are not trying to enter competitions then you do not need to get into the tren gh insulin.

[wes]

If you are a average gym rat you can get pretty buff off just dianabol tabs,you could also add your test, but that is all you need to look buff on the street, if you are not trying to enter competitions then you do not need to get into the tren gh insulin.

^THIS^

[wes]

I might add that theseguys had the original D-Bol which was awesome shit made by CIBA Labs....one 5mg. pill was more potent than a bunch of that pink Thai bullshit.

[Montague]

Dianabol was introduced to the weightlifting community around 1960.
This is a good thread if you're truly interested in what some of the more famous York guys were taking back then; Bill March even discusses dosages in his interview: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=278907.0

[njflex]

to put it into perspective there are some trainers/trainees here that are on cycles to choke a horse and still do not look like those two gentlemen pictured,so to think that they are on less/nothing then i have a bridge to sell you.as wes said they had acess to primo grade.

[wes]

to put it into perspective there are some trainers/trainees here that are on cycles to choke a horse and still do not look like those two gentlemen pictured,so to think that they are on less/nothing then i have a bridge to sell you.as wes said they had acess to primo grade.

I`ve been saying this for eons,some guys here look amazing,others on stupidly ridiculous amounts look just decent  or average at best.

Try telling me that genetics aren`t involved and I`ll just have to disagree with you.

[wes]

Dianabol was introduced to the weightlifting community around 1960.
This is a good thread if you're truly interested in what some of the more famous York guys were taking back then; Bill March even discusses dosages in his interview: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=278907.0

Good stuff Monty.....didn`t know that was posted on getbig.

Thanks bud! 

[njflex]

I`ve been saying this for eons,some guys here look amazing,others on stupidly ridiculous amounts look just decent  or average at best.

Try telling me that genetics aren`t involved and I`ll just have to disagree with you.

oh absolutley wes ,,those 2 scott,ortiz were awesome genetically,trainers,and responders to what was given.today most kids or delusional lifters go by internet 1st then go to gym..

[wes]

oh absolutley wes ,,those 2 scott,ortiz were awesome genetically,trainers,and responders to what was given.today most kids or delusional lifters go by internet 1st then go to gym..

I agree bro,and like gh15 says,"build a foundation before you build a house".....or something like that! 

[wes]

Another shot of Ortiz from the 1960`s:

[Montague]

Good stuff Monty.....didn`t know that was posted on getbig.

Thanks bud! 

You bet!
Be sure to check out the article I posted featuring Bill March from 2005.
He discusses the arrangement Ziegler had with CIBA.

[wes]

You bet!
Be sure to check out the article I posted featuring Bill March from 2005.
He discusses the arrangement Ziegler had with CIBA.

I just read the article from the link you posted..is there another ?

[Montague]

I just read the article from the link you posted..is there another ?

Damn, you're fast!
I honestly thought you scanned it until you saw Pumpster's name and abandoned the thread!

[wes]

Damn, you're fast!
I honestly thought you scanned it until you saw Pumpster's name and abandoned the thread!

LOL 

I`m generally pretty slow,but I`m from the old Evelyn Woods school of speed reading!!   

[Montague]

Another shot of Ortiz from the 1960`s:

Several guys from that time period have come clean about the anabolics, but Freddy Ortiz still dances around the question of his own drug use, like he did during an interview with David Robson a few years back.
Robson asked him twice, and Freddy never gave a direct answer either way.

[njflex]

LOL 

I`m generally pretty slow,but I`m from the old Evelyn Woods school of speed reading!!   

she made alot of money with that i bet,,,

[Montague]

LOL 

I`m generally pretty slow,but I`m from the old Evelyn Woods school of speed reading!!   

 

[wes]

You can`t blame some of these guys,they`re old school but anyone with experience knows.

Look at a modern guy like Gustavo Badell who said he was all natural...........legal issues, and pretty smart if you ask me,but we all know differently.

[wes]

she made alot of money with that i bet,,,

Hell yeah,but she got zippo from me! 

I survived Catholic school during the 1960`s, where if you didn`t read well,they beat it into you until you were super fast!

I think those nuns back then were secretly the East German womens swim team....they were tough.