Oh God and Jesus , YOU GUYS are just too funny!

[NarcissisticDeity]

I like how God's spokesperson is some 23 year old knob polisher from the suburbs


Oh brother

He does seem to pick the most ignorant dregs of society to spread thier ass cheeks the message

[IrishMuscle84]

''Maybe God didn't always exist. I actually think that he created himself. which implies that there was a period of non-existence, and then god created himself... got lonely, and created existence.''

                                                                                                                      TBOMBZ

The question of " if GOD made the universe/planets, etc........then who made God?? " Is interesting.
Just a few days ago i saw a truck full of " pagan " bumper stickers/sayings. The best one i saw was..............and since Christians/catholics think of JESUS of being thier " GOD "..........the sticker said " My goddess gave Birth to your God ".

[Growth NOOB]

now your finally starting to come around..


ok

"god"  is simply the supernatural creator and cause of the universe.  i dont mean anything more or less than that. i dont mean god is biblical, i dont mean god is knowable, i dont mean god is human in any way whatsoever, and i dont mean that there is life after death.  the only thing i mean is that there is an entity responsible for creating the universe.

what are gods properties? if god exists, then god would inherently have the power to create, god would be a thinking being, and god would be eternal. outside of these properties, one can not say. nor can one say god actually exists.



why does it have to be god?  because if it wasnt god, then it wasnt anything at all. and thats completely possible. everything just happened to happen. sure, why not. theres no proof god did it, so im not denying that it all might have been complete chance with absolutely no real cause.  but, if there was a cause.. then it HAD TO BE "GOD" (as defined in the above two paragraphs)

You are just fabricating this as we go along.  There is zero evidence for any of what you are saying.  

Like I pointed out to someone earlier, replace god with tooth fairy, and your statement is equally meaningless.


You can;t demonstrate ANY of what you are claiming.

[Growth NOOB]

lol I just gave you an easy way to see my point of view in the video, easy  to follow. Would you rather have me type you two pages so that you can ignore reading too; "hahaha, nice try to make me waste time reading your garbage, ima go with what the cool guys say"  

Listen, you think you're right, I think I'm right. I allready said that this type of debate is useless between us.

I am clearly wiser so I won't try to debate or talk with you about this- Sokrates

 

You have zero justification to believe what you do.  You can;t support it with any evidence.

And keep reading that "Sokrates" fella.  Sounds like a really smart guy.

[johnnynoname]

He does seem to pick the most ignorant dregs of society to spread thier ass cheeks the message

Rumor has it that after he made tdongz, God created the morning after pill

[devilsmile]

You have zero justification to believe what you do.  You can;t support it with any evidence.

utter nonsense

[Growth NOOB]

utter nonsense

So for the third time, provide evidence to support your claims.  You've gone on and on making ridiculous excuses and posting laughable UFO videos.  Can you be serious now?

[Growth NOOB]

utter nonsense

Hahaha

Nevermind.  This is useless. 


I just noticed the Alex Jones website in your sig.  No wonder you believe in UFO and the spirit realm.

[devilsmile]

So for the third time, provide evidence to support your claims.  You've gone on and on making ridiculous excuses and posting laughable UFO videos.  Can you be serious now?

yes if you wouldn't be so ignorant and thick headed and would have time to watch the video you would notice that the video proves that that certain ufo phenoms are not physical but spiritual.

There's one prove right there in the video serie explaining these things very easily, and you refuse to look at them

You asked for evidence, well I bring it, but then you refuse to ackowledge them. And now you even put words in my mouth because I never said "UFO phenom".

You have no credebility because you want to talk, but you only want to talk if I agree with you and you can't back anything you have said about big bang, you just say "oh well science doesn't know"  

simple minded guy, I told you I dont' have to talk about this, I know I'm right in my own mind, you know you're right in your own mind... you play xboxLive, I play ps3, we can't play,  there's no making sense with you on that.

[Growth NOOB]

yes if you wouldn't be so ignorant and thick headed and have time to watch the video you would notice that the video proves that that certain ufo phenoms are not physical but spiritual.

There's one prove right there in the video serie explaining these things, and you refuse to look at them

You asked for evidence, well I bring it, but then you refuse to ackowledge them. 

So a poorly made youtube video PROVED that there are not only UFOs, but also that there is a "spiritual" realm.

Don't you think if this was the case this would be a world wide, Nobel Prize winning accomplishment?  These "scientists" have not only PROVEN that UFOs exists, but also that there is a realm outside of our physical world, completely turning our current understanding of physics upside down.   Where is the falsifiability of these claims?  Where is the testable evidence?  Why hasn't this been peer reviewed and published in scientific journals?



Do you know why?  Because only morons believe shit like that.  No one else takes it serious.

[devilsmile]

So a poorly made youtube video PROVED that there are not only UFOs, but also that there is a "spiritual" realm.

Don't you think if this was the case this would be a world wide, Nobel Prize winning accomplishment?  These "scientists" have not only PROVEN that UFOs exists, but also that there is a realm outside of our physical world, completely turning our current understanding of physics upside down.   Where is the falsifiability of these claims?  Where is the testable evidence?  Why hasn't this been peer reviewed and published in scientific journals?



Do you know why?  Because only morons believe shit like that.  No one else takes it serious.

it makes more sense than your "unexplained" theory of big bang. And it was very well made video. Give me some "testable" evidence of your beliefs  

Why it hasn't published in scientific journals  ? From the same reasons doctors order 10 shots of vaccines of mercury and cancer viruses to people in one day etc etc.

I'm just having so much joy to know you are ripping your hair because I don't agree with you at all , I believe in god period. You can just deal with it.

[Growth NOOB]

it makes more sense than your "unexplained" theory of big bang. And it was very well made video. Give me some "testable" evidence of your beliefs  

Why it hasn't published in scientific journals  ? From the same reasons doctors order 10 shots of vaccines of mercury and cancer viruses to people in one day etc etc.

I'm just having so much joy to know you are ripping your hair because I don't agree with you at all , I believe in god period. You can just deal with it.

Unexplained theory of the Big Bang?  Are you, devilsmile, UFO and spirit realm expert, renouncing decades of evidence by the worlds most brilliant minds?  There are loads of testable and falsifiable evidence supporting the Big Bang.  I suggest you do some research on it because you come across as a complete moron dismissing the Big Bang, yet championing a youtube video claiming UFOs and the spirit realm exist.  


I have no idea what you are talking about regarding mercury and "cancer viruses" (whatever the fuck that means lol).  Does that part of your response come in English?

[wes]

[devilsmile]

Unexplained theory of the Big Bang?  Are you, devilsmile, UFO and spirit realm expert, renouncing decades of evidence by the worlds most brilliant minds?  There are loads of testable and falsifiable evidence supporting the Big Bang.  I suggest you do some research on it because you come across as a complete moron dismissing the Big Bang, yet championing a youtube video claiming UFOs and the spirit realm exist.  


I have no idea what you are talking about regarding mercury and "cancer viruses" (whatever the fuck that means lol).  Does that part of your response come in English?

these "flue shots" are literally flue shots, they have mercury, cancer viruses and other various toxins, it's a fact about these vaccines, look it up

You have been asked how did big bang happend, what caused it and you can't explain it, so it's just a belief theory. Anything but god goes

You keep saying "there's lots of theorys to prove"... yeah? I gave you ONE theory to prove spiritual realms are true but you refuse to check them out. Lol, typical conversation with an atheist, now days they seem to make the least sense or atleast they lack the basic fundamentals of following the rules of conversation.

[PJim]

This thread is becoming a fucking shambles.

[no one]

LOL

[tbombz]

Unexplained theory of the Big Bang?  Are you, devilsmile, UFO and spirit realm expert, renouncing decades of evidence by the worlds most brilliant minds?  There are loads of testable and falsifiable evidence supporting the Big Bang.

the "big bang" is not explained. nobody knows what caused it to happen or where all the mass-energy came from to begin with. nobody knows how long that "hot and dense" state existed before the big bang happened, if at some point in time trillions of years before the "big bang" there was a "fast shrinking and heating" in which a previous universe shrank down into that dense and hot state and stayed that way for trillions of years before expanding out into our current universe..etc.

its sad how closed minded athiests are.

[tbombz]

Utter nonsense.

^ putting your head in the sand

[NarcissisticDeity]

these "flue shots" are literally flue shots, they have mercury, cancer viruses and other various toxins, it's a fact about these vaccines, look it up

You have been asked how did big bang happend, what caused it and you can't explain it, so it's just a belief theory. Anything but god goes

You keep saying "there's lots of theorys to prove"... yeah? I gave you ONE theory to prove spiritual realms are true but you refuse to check them out. Lol, typical conversation with an atheist, now days they seem to make the least sense or atleast they lack the basic fundamentals of following the rules of conversation.

Inflation caused the Big Bang

http://www4.ncsu.edu/unity/lockers/users/f/felder/public/kenny/papers/inflation.html

knock yourself out 

[JBGRAY]

Atheists often know the Bible much better than your typical Christian and tear them up in debates.  Most Christians do not look beyond their Bible for knowledge and limit themselves.  Faith is tough to have.

[tbombz]

the funny thing is i have not once asserted that god exists.


im playing off the fact that EVERY human has an innate feeling inside them that SOMETHING caused the universe to happen.

by showing that if god doesnt exist then in all actuality there was absolutely NO CAUSE, that if there is no god that by default everything just HAPPENED TO HAPPEN...     atheists are confronted with a contradiction between a gut feeling of universal causality and an intellectual dismissal of God.

[NarcissisticDeity]

the funny thing is i have not once asserted that god exists.


im playing off the fact that EVERY human has an innate feeling inside them that SOMETHING caused the universe to happen.

by showing that if god doesnt exist then in all actuality there was absolutely NO CAUSE, that if there is no god that by default everything just HAPPENED TO HAPPEN...     atheists are confronted with a contradiction between a gut feeling of universal causality and an intellectual dismissal of God.

God = story . early mans attempt at explaining the world around him, first passed from one generation to the next through oral tradition , then compiled into written form.

[tbombz]

Inflation caused the Big Bang

http://www4.ncsu.edu/unity/lockers/users/f/felder/public/kenny/papers/inflation.html

knock yourself out 

that does not explain the cause of the big bang, it explains the physics of why the universe is "flat" instead of curved, how the universe can be as large as it is, and how "magnetic monopoles" can exist.

sorry broseph

[JBGRAY]

God = story . early mans attempt at explaining the world around him, first passed from one generation to the next through oral tradition , then compiled into written form.

Don't argue with this guy on the existence of God.  He'll kill ya.  

You HAVE to be an objectivist, unless you're a commie

[tbombz]

even if inflation theory did describe a CAUSE for "the big bang" in entirety, which it doesn, not even close,  it does not addressed the origin of mass energy, how energy converted into mass, how all of the conceptual designs of particles came into being, and where all of the physical laws come from.

this is not an argument about "the god of the gaps", this is an argument that science is totally incapable of providing any kind of answers about metaphysics. and this has long been accepted, but recently forgotten, within the scientific field. the very first athiests made athiesm respectable by proving this fact, and thus making the topic of metaphysics completely out of bounds on the empirical level.