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Is Newt The Conservative Alternative?
« on: January 22, 2012, 10:17:35 AM »
Newt:
  • called Paul Ryan's plan to reform Medicare "right-wing social engineering"
  • supported Medicare Part D, which added $17 trillion to Medicare's unfunded liabilities
  • endorsed the individual mandate for health insurance, which was the centerpiece of Obamacare
  • pushed for climate change legislation with Pelosi
  • lobbied for the ethanol industry and Freddie Mac
  • supports the same kind of government involvement in the housing industry that led to the housing bubble
  • supports the same kind of central economic planning that led to the Solyndra bankruptcy

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/article/newt-gingrich-no-conservative

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Re: Is Newt The Conservative Alternative?
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2012, 10:24:46 AM »
Newt supports ethanol subsidies. Is this man a limited government conservative or a Big Government RINO?

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Looking for votes in Iowa, former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich touted his support for ethanol on Thursday and said it would be part of his all-American energy plan.

Gingrich said he voted for gasohol as a congressman during the Reagan administration. He said his later support for ethanol subsidies was key to getting the program implemented.

“If I have to choose between the next billion dollars (for energy) going to Iraq or Iowa, I prefer Iowa,” Gingrich said. Gingrich complimented Iowa on its investment in alternative energy, noting that the Hawkeye State is second to the country of Denmark in wind-generated power.

Gingrich has been a strong supporter of ethanol subsidies while campaigning in Iowa, according to the website Politico. The website reported that former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has been non-committal about continuing ethanol subsidies, although he supported them in the past to get the industry on its feet.

http://www.unionleader.com/article/20111222/NEWS0605/712239993

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Re: Is Newt The Conservative Alternative?
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2012, 10:30:11 AM »
Newt is to the left of Obama on housing policy:

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In a country where a housing bubble was burst by a series of colliding banking, lending and economic factors, the role of Government Sponsored Enterprises (GSEs) — Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae — has been a hot-button topic. How much of the housing market turmoil was caused by relaxed mortgage qualification standards due to a national policy push to get as many people into their own homes?

A year ago, President Barack Obama called for the end of Freddie and Fannie. This week, Housing and Urban Development Secretary Shaun Donovan said the administration is close to a deal where up to a million homeowners could get write-downs on their mortgages due to shady foreclosure practices.

In Republican policy debates, where there’s a renewed push to scale back government across the board, Gingrich could not escape his past as an advocate for government-backed mortgage lending, or his participation in a huge government agency where executives have been criminally charged for underestimating by billions the amount of sub-prime loans held by the agencies.

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Gingrich resigned from Congress in 1998 and a year later, he was hired as a consultant for Freddie Mac. And as he gained momentum in late 2011 as a GOP primary contender, Gingrich was found to have collected upwards of $1.8 million in fees from Freddie Mac.

http://www.zillow.com/blog/2012-01-19/could-newt-gingrichs-ties-to-freddie-mac-come-back-to-haunt-him/

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Re: Is Newt The Conservative Alternative?
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2012, 10:30:12 AM »
newt's a rino.   but we all knew that.   just trying to market himself as a mitt alternative.

a bunch of fcking posers.   repubs are smart enough to know this.  but all the good candidates were smart enough to know it was too hard to beat an incumbent.  and ron paul is old, it had to be now to get message out and position rand as a 2-term president down the road.

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George Will and Glenn Beck on Newt Gingrich
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2012, 10:34:07 AM »
George Will calls Newt "the classic rental politician:"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/11/20/george_will_on_newt_gingrich_hes_the_classic_rental_politician.html

Glenn Beck attacks Newt:


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Re: Is Newt The Conservative Alternative?
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2012, 08:32:39 PM »

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Re: Is Newt The Conservative Alternative?
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2012, 08:38:27 PM »
And you want one with mittens ?    that list grows even longer.   

j read a story about myth saying we need to do cap and trade and end coal today.   


myth is awful, so is newt TBH, but at least Newt is open about past failures and bullshit.   Myth acts like je never flip flopped in the first place.

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Re: Is Newt The Conservative Alternative?
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2012, 08:53:16 PM »
I thought you didn't engage in intraparty fighting?  :P But sure, I'll take one with Mittens. And then let's find one regarding all of Santorum's Big Government decisions. I don't like any of 'em, except Ron Paul.

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Re: Is Newt The Conservative Alternative?
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2012, 08:55:43 PM »
I thought you didn't engage in intraparty fighting?  :P But sure, I'll take one with Mittens. And then let's find one regarding all of Santorum's Big Government decisions. I don't like any of 'em, except Ron Paul.

I am A B O , w RP first, but mittens' past to me is extremely troubling w his chameleon ways

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Re: Is Newt The Conservative Alternative?
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2012, 05:45:18 AM »
I am A B O , w RP first, but mittens' past to me is extremely troubling w his chameleon ways

Newt's past vs. Mitt's past... Hmmmm... I'll take the flip-flopper over the hothead egomaniac with numerous ethics violations and a track-record of supporting conservative progressivism.

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Re: Is Newt The Conservative Alternative?
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2012, 05:49:09 AM »
Newt's past vs. Mitt's past... Hmmmm... I'll take the flip-flopper over the hothead egomaniac with numerous ethics violations and a track-record of supporting conservative progressivism.


Both are the same IMHO but mitt wont fight back and has a glass jaw. 

At least Newt apologized for his  coal emissions nonsense.   Mittens said coal plants kill people and that there had to be caps on c02   

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Re: Is Newt The Conservative Alternative?
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2012, 07:00:17 AM »

Both are the same IMHO but mitt wont fight back and has a glass jaw. 

At least Newt apologized for his  coal emissions nonsense.   Mittens said coal plants kill people and that there had to be caps on c02   


Mitt is the same... Besides all of the major character flaws, numerous ethics violations, and a host of other issues. Oh, and Mitt has had the perfect experience as governor and as private equity investor.

Honestly, the ONLY plus Newt has in my book is coming out in favor of some form of the gold standard.

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Re: Is Newt The Conservative Alternative?
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2012, 07:03:20 AM »

Mitt is the same... Besides all of the major character flaws, numerous ethics violations, and a host of other issues. Oh, and Mitt has had the perfect experience as governor and as private equity investor.

Honestly, the ONLY plus Newt has in my book is coming out in favor of some form of the gold standard.

The problem with Mittens is his governors experience.   ROMNEYCARE and the individual mandate he favored was the blueprint for obamacare.  Not to mention many other things he did. 

Not saying Newt is good at all, just saying Mittens has a lot of problems.     

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Re: Is Newt The Conservative Alternative?
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2012, 07:10:09 AM »

Both are the same IMHO but mitt wont fight back and has a glass jaw. 

At least Newt apologized for his  coal emissions nonsense.   Mittens said coal plants kill people and that there had to be caps on c02   


So an apology makes everything ok....sort of like how Newt pimped his services to Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae for a cool 1.6 million dollars.... ::)
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Re: Is Newt The Conservative Alternative?
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2012, 07:14:26 AM »
The problem with Mittens is his governors experience.   ROMNEYCARE and the individual mandate he favored was the blueprint for obamacare.  Not to mention many other things he did. 

Not saying Newt is good at all, just saying Mittens has a lot of problems.     

You're really going to bring up the individual mandate? You realize that Newt has a track record of supporting the individual mandate for 20 years, right? And you realize that Mitt got the idea for the individual mandate from Newt and the Heritage Foundation, right?

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Re: Is Newt The Conservative Alternative?
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2012, 07:21:42 AM »
You're really going to bring up the individual mandate? You realize that Newt has a track record of supporting the individual mandate for 20 years, right? And you realize that Mitt got the idea for the individual mandate from Newt and the Heritage Foundation, right?

Yes!   I do realize all of that and it sucks!  I hate both of them, probably Romney even more, just saying he has a lot of problems in a general election.