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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2012, 10:55:40 AM »
what the fu#k you worried about the tsa isn't doing to your appartment ;D

I have the right to travel without having my balls touched by TSA thugs.

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2012, 10:55:55 AM »
I'm sure in the 1930s someone said, "So what, just wear the star, it takes ten seconds to put it on."


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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2012, 10:59:00 AM »
good, i have to go through them so should he
You support this shit, Paul doesn't.  Do you think Obama or Hillary would submit to being felt up?  Hell no and they support the shit.

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2012, 11:01:42 AM »
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/26/AR2010112604290.html

The TSA is invasive, annoying - and unconstitutional

by Jeffrey Rosen, a law professor at George Washington University

One advocacy group, the Electronic Privacy Information Center, has already filed a lawsuit, calling the body scanners unconstitutional. Could this challenge succeed?

Courts evaluating airport-screening technology tend to give great deference to the government's national security interest in preventing terrorist attacks. But in this case, there's a strong argument that the TSA's measures violate the Fourth Amendment, which prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures.

Although the Supreme Court hasn't evaluated airport screening technology, lower courts have emphasized, as the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit ruled in 2007, that "a particular airport security screening search is constitutionally reasonable provided that it 'is no more extensive nor intensive than necessary, in the light of current technology, to detect the presence of weapons or explosives.' "

In a 2006 opinion for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit, then-Judge Samuel Alito stressed that screening procedures must be both "minimally intrusive" and "effective" - in other words, they must be "well-tailored to protect personal privacy," and they must deliver on their promise of discovering serious threats. Alito upheld the practices at an airport checkpoint where passengers were first screened with walk-through magnetometers and then, if they set off an alarm, with hand-held wands. He wrote that airport searches are reasonable if they escalate "in invasiveness only after a lower level of screening disclose(s) a reason to conduct a more probing search."

As currently used in U.S. airports, the new full-body scanners fail all of Alito's tests.

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2012, 11:01:58 AM »
i don't think they fly to many commercial flights

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2012, 11:02:28 AM »
You support this shit, Paul doesn't.  Do you think Obama or Hillary would submit to being felt up?  Hell no and they support the shit.

HUH???   Obama would love getting felt up by another man.   he is gay as shit. 

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2012, 11:03:29 AM »
i don't think they fly to many commercial flights

Do you want Rand Paul to apologize for saving taxpayer money by taking a commercial flight instead of taking his own private jet, like Nancy Pelosi does?

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2012, 11:08:45 AM »
Do you want Rand Paul to apologize for saving taxpayer money by taking a commercial flight instead of taking his own private jet, like Nancy Pelosi does?

i want him to go though the scanner,and if he sets it off get the pat down,and stop trying to make a fu#cking publicity stunt out of it

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2012, 11:09:49 AM »
Gee I didn't know Obama came up with the Patriot Act.... ::)
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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2012, 11:10:24 AM »
Gee I didn't know Obama came up with the Patriot Act.... ::)

He fucking renewed it man.

Let's be clear, he didn't create it, but when he had a chance to let it expire, he didn't do it.

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« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2012, 11:10:36 AM »
Gee I didn't know Obama came up with the Patriot Act.... ::)

He only expanded it greatly an allowed the TSA goons to unionize  

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2012, 11:13:15 AM »
i want him to go though the scanner,and if he sets it off get the pat down,and stop trying to make a fu#cking publicity stunt out of it

Whatever happened to having the freedom to travel without having government goons touch your balls?

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2012, 11:15:18 AM »
Whatever happened to having the freedom to travel without having government goons touch your balls?


Blacken is a socialist/obamunist what else do you expect?

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2012, 11:16:50 AM »
Whatever happened to having the freedom to travel without having government goons touch your balls?

box cutters, shoe bombs and whatever else these nuts can think of

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2012, 11:17:43 AM »
box cutters, shoe bombs and whatever else these nuts can think of


Let me carry my gun and problem solved.   

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2012, 11:19:15 AM »
box cutters, shoe bombs and whatever else these nuts can think of

If airlines and airports were allowed to take care of their own security, that problem would be minimized without violating our civil liberties.

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2012, 11:20:31 AM »
box cutters, shoe bombs and whatever else these nuts can think of

Seriously? We had a rash of this shit? Come on... 4 planes, one day and the universe crumbles?

Bullshit... It was a knee jerk reaction to a random issue.

We put the lowest common denominator as the keeper of our safety?

Have you paid attention to the cro-magons they use? My 10 year old son has more common sense than most of those yahoos.

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2012, 11:21:04 AM »
He fucking renewed it man.

Let's be clear, he didn't create it, but when he had a chance to let it expire, he didn't do it.



Over 3/4 of the Senate signed off on it...even with a veto, it still would have happenned.

In any event, the Patriot Act is an unfortunate thing that's needed thanks to people starting unnessesary wars with other countries..... ::)
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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2012, 11:21:53 AM »

Let me carry my gun and problem solved.   


You shoot a gun on an airplane and everyone will die from rapid decompression you fucking moron
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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2012, 11:23:37 AM »


Over 3/4 of the Senate signed off on it...even with a veto, it still would have happenned.

In any event, the Patriot Act is an unfortunate thing that's needed thanks to people starting unnessesary wars with other countries..... ::)

It is NOT needed. It was never needed.

I don't care if 3/4 of the Senate signed off on it... If one person stands up and says "NO MORE" then shit will change.

If 90% of people are doing wrong, it doesn't make it ok for the other 10 percent to do wrong as well. I would think you would be against the Patriot act as the type of person who is trying to get off of the grid and go it alone.

Wouldn't you just want the government out of your business? The patriot act will make someone like you look like a terrorist.

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #45 on: January 23, 2012, 11:24:24 AM »
If airlines and airports were allowed to take care of their own security, that problem would be minimized without violating our civil liberties.

how would they check the passengers

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2012, 11:25:10 AM »
It is NOT needed. It was never needed.

I don't care if 3/4 of the Senate signed off on it... If one person stands up and says "NO MORE" then shit will change.

If 90% of people are doing wrong, it doesn't make it ok for the other 10 percent to do wrong as well. I would think you would be against the Patriot act as the type of person who is trying to get off of the grid and go it alone.

Wouldn't you just want the government out of your business? The patriot act will make someone like you look like a terrorist.



Always an excuse for Obama's actions/inactions from the peanut gallery.  They will defend anything he does, even if it mimics the same bs they cursed bush over.    

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2012, 11:28:38 AM »
how would they check the passengers

Whatever way is deemed necessary by the airlines and (by extension) the passengers. What they choose ultimately doesn't matter, what matters is that they have a choice. Right now, there is no choice and everyone is subjected to being molested by government goons.

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2012, 11:34:07 AM »
x rays or pat downs thats the way they would check you,or maybe they could just ask you

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Re: Breaking News! Sen. Rand Paul is being illegally detained!
« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2012, 11:35:13 AM »
x rays or pat downs thats the way they would check you,or maybe they could just ask you


Being the pervert you are, perhaps you enjoy the TSA pat downs?