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Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« on: January 25, 2012, 11:27:46 AM »
Why is newt hating here?  Romney worked for decades in the very stressful world of fin mgmt.  Don't criticize him for making his nut and retiring.  Successful people like Mitt live off the interest. 

Like it or not - romney wants a job that pays in a year what he makes in ONE WEEK. 



When asked about Romney’s position on immigration, Gingrich said that deporting all undocumented immigrants is unrealistic.
 “You have to live in a world of Swiss bank accounts and Cayman Island accounts and making $20 million for no work, to have some fantasy this far from reality,” Gingrich said.
 

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2012, 12:04:37 PM »
seriously what is America s obsesson with swiss bank accounts? any dentist or doctor or average moron could have opened one...not any more though casue the swiss no longer want american clients. its too much of a head ache for them and not worth the hassle of prying IRS robots demanding to sift through private documents of banks located in a soveriegn nation

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2012, 12:05:25 PM »
newt and the libs are mad that romney waited until the law change requiring switz to start revealing info to USA officials - that's when mitt dipped his $ outta there.

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2012, 12:30:37 PM »
Don't forget that Newt's favorite President of the 20th century was FDR:


And he also is a fan of Woodrow Wilson:


AND he was/is a Rockefeller Republican:


I suspect that, deep-down, Newt is a progressive and he is trying to position himself as a right-wing populist. If he does become President in this environment, he will push for a series of policies that will have popular support while making government more intrusive but effective.

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2012, 01:37:17 PM »
I suspect that, deep-down, Newt is a progressive and he is trying to position himself as a right-wing populist. If he does become President in this environment, he will push for a series of policies that will have popular support while making government more intrusive but effective.

Of course he's progressive.  that's why libs are pissing their pants with joy these days.

With mitt or newt, you're going to get a big spending, cap-trade & amnesty supporting dipshit who will "work across the aisle" or cave to the dems. 

Ain't no heavy hitters in this race.   You have two libs, plus ron paul and santorum.

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2012, 02:46:20 PM »
seriously what is America s obsesson with swiss bank accounts? any dentist or doctor or average moron could have opened one...not any more though casue the swiss no longer want american clients. its too much of a head ache for them and not worth the hassle of prying IRS robots demanding to sift through private documents of banks located in a soveriegn nation

One day a week for the last 18 months I have been serving on a Federal Grand Jury.  In one case, we heard testimony from a witness whose boss had a Swiss bank account and lots of money on an island in the Caribbean.  Before long, the boss started to pay this employee in cash, and at certain times asked the employee to carry cash into the US (they traveled abroad frequently); there are limits on how much cash one is allowed to personally carry into the US and the employee was asked to do this specifically to circumvent the law because his boss was already at the limit.  The employee did so repeatedly.  Eventually, the boss was nabbed by the Feds and the case came before my Grand Jury.  The employee testified that he had “no idea” “no clue” that his boss was engaged in anything underhanded until the Feds nabbed him.

“Oh really?” I said during questioning, “Have you ever had any employer pay you in cash before?”
“No.”
“Didn’t you think that was the least bit strange?”
“Unusual, yes, but not necessarily illegal or criminal.”
“When your employer began to ask you to carry cash into the country because he was at the cash limit himself didn’t you think that was strange?”
“Well, no. He was my boss and I was just doing as I was told.”
“But you knew when he asked you to carry the cash that he was doing it specifically to circumvent the law restricting cash into the country, isn’t that correct?”
“Well, yes, I guess so.”
“In other words you did, in fact, know that you and your employer were deliberately violating the law, isn’t that right?”
“Well, when you put it that way, yes, I guess so.”

“Tell me, before you went to work for this gentleman, did you have a Swiss bank account yourself?”
“No.”
“Did you personally know anyone with a Swiss bank account?”
“No.”
“I think I’m safe in observing that most people in the United States, and most of us in this room (about 30 people) have only heard of Swiss bank accounts through television, movies, news reports, etc.  And those Swiss accounts are almost always being used in connection with some sort of criminal activity such as hiding money, laundering money, avoiding taxes, or otherwise illegally transferring money. Would you say that’s a fair statement?”
“Um, well, yes, I guess so.”
“And so, when you helped your boss transfer large sums of money to several Swiss bank accounts over a period of many months it never once occurred to you that something inappropriate might be going on?”
“Um… um… Can I take a break and consult with my attorney?”
“Don’t bother… I have nothing further.”

At the end of his testimony the Assistant US Attorney comes over to me smiling and says, “You should have been a prosecutor!”  ;D

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2012, 03:22:56 PM »
America's obsession with Swiss bank accounts is that people can't stand the notion of others being able to hide their own money away from the prying eyes of IRS goons.

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2012, 03:35:48 PM »
One day a week for the last 18 months I have been serving on a Federal Grand Jury.  In one case, we heard testimony from a witness whose boss had a Swiss bank account and lots of money on an island in the Caribbean.  Before long, the boss started to pay this employee in cash, and at certain times asked the employee to carry cash into the US (they traveled abroad frequently); there are limits on how much cash one is allowed to personally carry into the US and the employee was asked to do this specifically to circumvent the law because his boss was already at the limit.  The employee did so repeatedly.  Eventually, the boss was nabbed by the Feds and the case came before my Grand Jury.  The employee testified that he had “no idea” “no clue” that his boss was engaged in anything underhanded until the Feds nabbed him.

“Oh really?” I said during questioning, “Have you ever had any employer pay you in cash before?”
“No.”
“Didn’t you think that was the least bit strange?”
“Unusual, yes, but not necessarily illegal or criminal.”
“When your employer began to ask you to carry cash into the country because he was at the cash limit himself didn’t you think that was strange?”
“Well, no. He was my boss and I was just doing as I was told.”
“But you knew when he asked you to carry the cash that he was doing it specifically to circumvent the law restricting cash into the country, isn’t that correct?”
“Well, yes, I guess so.”
“In other words you did, in fact, know that you and your employer were deliberately violating the law, isn’t that right?”
“Well, when you put it that way, yes, I guess so.”

“Tell me, before you went to work for this gentleman, did you have a Swiss bank account yourself?”
“No.”
“Did you personally know anyone with a Swiss bank account?”
“No.”
“I think I’m safe in observing that most people in the United States, and most of us in this room (about 30 people) have only heard of Swiss bank accounts through television, movies, news reports, etc.  And those Swiss accounts are almost always being used in connection with some sort of criminal activity such as hiding money, laundering money, avoiding taxes, or otherwise illegally transferring money. Would you say that’s a fair statement?”
“Um, well, yes, I guess so.”
“And so, when you helped your boss transfer large sums of money to several Swiss bank accounts over a period of many months it never once occurred to you that something inappropriate might be going on?”
“Um… um… Can I take a break and consult with my attorney?”
“Don’t bother… I have nothing further.”

At the end of his testimony the Assistant US Attorney comes over to me smiling and says, “You should have been a prosecutor!”  ;D

with the one caveat that lowering your taxable income by legal means is perfectly allowable...

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2012, 03:50:10 PM »
America's obsession with Swiss bank accounts is that people can't stand the notion of others being able to hide their own money away from the prying eyes of IRS goons.

It has nothing to do with Swiss bank accounts per se . . . but no, Americans do not like the idea that some people can skirt the laws that most of us have to live by—such as paying taxes.  It's that whole "equal justice under law" thing that just rubs a lot of Americans the wrong way.  ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_justice_under_law

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2012, 05:31:59 PM »
Why is newt hating here?  Romney worked for decades in the very stressful world of fin mgmt.  Don't criticize him for making his nut and retiring.  Successful people like Mitt live off the interest. 

Like it or not - romney wants a job that pays in a year what he makes in ONE WEEK. 



When asked about Romney’s position on immigration, Gingrich said that deporting all undocumented immigrants is unrealistic.
 “You have to live in a world of Swiss bank accounts and Cayman Island accounts and making $20 million for no work, to have some fantasy this far from reality,” Gingrich said.
 



Yep, reason why I keep telling my kids it's about smart work, not just hard work.  Now, if I could only make myself smarter....

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2012, 08:29:31 PM »


Yep, reason why I keep telling my kids it's about smart work, not just hard work.  Now, if I could only make myself smarter....

i wonder how repub primary voters in 47 states will respond to newt attacking capitalism like this.  has he apologized yet?

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2012, 05:45:09 AM »
It has nothing to do with Swiss bank accounts per se . . . but no, Americans do not like the idea that some people can skirt the laws that most of us have to live by—such as paying taxes.  It's that whole "equal justice under law" thing that just rubs a lot of Americans the wrong way.  ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_justice_under_law


Avoiding taxes is perfectly legal. Many americans get their anuses highly irritated about this becasue they are of small means and average intelligence. To avoid (within the letter of the law and there are some great laws to be looped 8)) and to intentionally break tax laws are two wholly and soley different issues. Yes, it costs you more in attorney fees to engage in the former (unless you get caught partaking in the latter) but to me, if i was a rich man well worth it.

another thing: Buffet and Gates and a handful of other billionaires championing obamas "the rich must pay their fare share"...this is so lame and transparent to me. the average fuck is falling for it hook line and sinker. even if you did tax super rich at 50 percent which is a poisonous street to go doaw, these guys still have 30 or 40 billion left over. point is were it tax the super rich at 90 percent crybaby billionaires club would be in every major city near you.

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2012, 05:51:47 AM »
I dont have a problem with anyone making money or trying to lower taxes but when they go out of their way to lower taxes for themsleves while suggesting others should pay more, then I have a problem.

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2012, 06:01:09 AM »
I dont have a problem with anyone making money or trying to lower taxes but when they go out of their way to lower taxes for themsleves while suggesting others should pay more, then I have a problem.

lets just say, Bain, when confronted with legislation to raise taxes on capital gains dividend yields went on the defensive sending lobbyist to washington. that is how the system works. they have means and intelligence this is what is done. should they have done nothing? i am not aware that they encouraged others peoples taxes to go up. if so, that was a shortsighted idea to encourage surely.

regardless of of personal tax etc...the spending this country is engaging in will never be satiated by taxing. even if you taxed the very richest at 90 percent and did so yearly. the crazy spending needs to be reigned in. and yes, the military is a perfect area to stop some of the bleeding. there i said it.

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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2012, 06:10:56 AM »
i am not aware that they encouraged others peoples taxes to go up. if so, that was a shortsighted idea to encourage surely.



Have you been watching the candidates at all? Should the corporations with money and influence be the only ones that government works for to make their financila situation easier?

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2012, 06:32:12 AM »
lets just say, Bain, when confronted with legislation to raise taxes on capital gains dividend yields went on the defensive sending lobbyist to washington. that is how the system works. they have means and intelligence this is what is done. should they have done nothing? i am not aware that they encouraged others peoples taxes to go up. if so, that was a shortsighted idea to encourage surely.

regardless of of personal tax etc...the spending this country is engaging in will never be satiated by taxing. even if you taxed the very richest at 90 percent and did so yearly. the crazy spending needs to be reigned in. and yes, the military is a perfect area to stop some of the bleeding. there i said it.

This is the problem. You could confiscate all the wealth of the top 1% and we'll still be trillions in debt.

Obama is spending at roughly 24% of GDP. Research will show this to be completely unsustainable, regardless of how much people are taxed.

The Usurper is out of control.

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2012, 06:40:25 AM »
i agree the spending is insane.  but it's not going to change.  only ron paul will address that.  mitt and newt may spend a little less, but not nearly enough to change anything. 

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2012, 06:53:57 AM »
Have you been watching the candidates at all? Should the corporations with money and influence be the only ones that government works for to make their financila situation easier?

corporations may be taxed a people, but the wealth is generated and distributed to the shareholders which may be you or i or anyother person in the world. maybe we should do away with corporations in this country? or tax them out of existence? sadly the national debt would still not be paid off . we can be mad about the super rich or corps or whatever. point is spending is the killer.

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2012, 07:21:04 AM »
It has nothing to do with Swiss bank accounts per se . . . but no, Americans do not like the idea that some people can skirt the laws that most of us have to live by—such as paying taxes.  It's that whole "equal justice under law" thing that just rubs a lot of Americans the wrong way.  ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_justice_under_law

Yeah, it's totally unfair, isn't it??  >:( You have a quarter of your paycheck stolen from you and so should I, right???  ::)

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2012, 10:01:11 AM »
Yeah, it's totally unfair, isn't it??  >:( You have a quarter of your paycheck stolen from you and so should I, right???  ::)

Good luck trying to get votes from ordinary people with that kind of rhetoric.  ::)

Remember when John McCain was asked how many homes he owned... and he couldn't answer--because he didn't even know?  Being demonstrably out of touch with ordinary people is not a fast track to the Presidency.  ::)

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2012, 10:06:07 AM »
Good luck trying to get votes from ordinary people with that kind of rhetoric.  ::)

Remember when John McCain was asked how many homes he owned... and he couldn't answer--because he didn't even know?  Being demonstrably out of touch with ordinary people is not a fast track to the Presidency.  ::)

and obama is?    LOL!!!! 

GMAFB!!! 

This incompetent fool has NEVER held a 9-5 and never has done a damn thing in his life to be where he is but convince blacks, guilt ridden white morons, govt union members, eco-nazis, etc to vote for him.   

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2012, 10:34:35 AM »
Good luck trying to get votes from ordinary people with that kind of rhetoric.  ::)

Remember when John McCain was asked how many homes he owned... and he couldn't answer--because he didn't even know?  Being demonstrably out of touch with ordinary people is not a fast track to the Presidency.  ::)

People aren't stupid. If you cut through the left-wing rhetoric and tell them that you made your millions through hard work by taking underperforming businesses and turning them around people will vote for you.

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2012, 10:36:08 AM »
People aren't stupid. If you cut through the left-wing rhetoric and tell them that you made your millions through hard work by taking underperforming businesses and turning them around people will vote for you.

To the average leftist socialist Obama voter - its better to take advice from the homeless bum how to fix the economy than it would be romney.   

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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2012, 10:38:15 AM »
Oh - and let's be clear - why does Mitt have millions in offshore funds? Because if he brings that money into the United States it will be taxed at a higher rate.


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Re: Newt: Romney Makes "$20 Million for no work"
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2012, 10:40:47 AM »
Oh - and let's be clear - why does Mitt have millions in offshore funds? Because if he brings that money into the United States it will be taxed at a higher rate.



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