advice on next cycle(test, tren, NPP)

[undead]

ok so i was gonna wait a while longer but im thinking of just starting up my 2nd cycle this week. ive been cutting for a while and im around 12% BF right now. id like to get down to 10% but im getting impatient with all that tren just sitting around. its calling to me bros. my question is should i keep cutting to sub 10% without gear or just get back on and start bulking and depend on the tren to get my bodyfat down.


i was thinking of running it like this(keep in mind this is only my second cycle hence the low doses)

1-14 test prop 50mg ED
1-10 tren ace 50mg ED
1-10 NPP 75mg ED
cabergoline 0.5mg E4D
adex 0.5mg E3D

i will up the dose of tren to 75mg ED and the NPP to 100mg ED after the first 2 weeks if side effects arent too bad.

not really concerned about erectile dysfunction. im not getting any at the moment and havent got time for a girl.


my main concern is hair loss and im gonna be using a shtload of topical products. ive read a few threads about it on here and i think i can control it pretty well even with the tren.

[Morsprincipium]

You using the caber as a dopamine agonist?

I wouldn't worry about the higher BF problem, tren will give you a recomp effect along with big gains in size, especially if you're going to stack it with NPP.

You shouldn't have any problems with erectile disfunction, cycle looks good to me.

[undead]

yes. the caber is to prevent the prolactin sides.


edit: btw, how are the folks at BB.com treating you nowadays? lol

[Morsprincipium]

yes. the caber is to prevent the prolactin sides.


edit: btw, how are the folks at BB.com treating you nowadays? lol

Banned me for "trolling"

Not like I care, if they don't want to listen to my advice then not my problem.  

I feel much more at home here anyways

[undead]

lol yea idk why i didnt make an account here earlier. ive been posting a lot on other forums but mostly just lurking here.

[Treninghard]

approving the caber use, but only use adex if gyno pops up, which shoudnt at such a low test dosage

[Treninghard]

or run some masteron/proviron

[undead]

approving the caber use, but only use adex if gyno pops up, which shoudnt at such a low test dosage

dont the progestenic properties of the tren and NPP call for it? NPP aromatizes a bit as well.


and id love to use some masteron but that would wreck my hair. same for proviron. maybe in a couple years when i dont give a fuk anymore.

[Morsprincipium]

dont the progestenic properties of the tren and NPP call for it? NPP aromatizes a bit as well.


and id love to use some masteron but that would wreck my hair. same for proviron. maybe in a couple years when i dont give a fuk anymore.

My hairline went to shit when I approached a gram a week of tren...just shave it off and wear a beanie/cap.  Makes life so much more enjoyable

[Lebaneselion]

Wont npp stacked with tren cause alot of prolactin??

[undead]

thats what the cabergoline is for.

[Schmoe Buster]

Wont npp stacked with tren cause alot of prolactin??

Only in some people, ive used Tren and NPP together without caber and it works great

[Lebaneselion]

Only in some people, ive used Tren and NPP together without caber and it works great

How would u know if they are high?

[Schmoe Buster]

How would u know if they are high?

You'd get prolactin related sides

[undead]

well i just pinned the first shot. we'll see how it goes.

[Schmoe Buster]

well i just pinned the first shot. we'll see how it goes.

Good luck Bro, keep us updated, thats great cycle, you are going to get some great gains

[g101]

Only in some people, ive used Tren and NPP together without caber and it works great

x2

tren + deca was my very first cycle .. no ai/ae ... no anti-prolactin..

yes my FIRST cycle with no testosterona and i was FINE no libido problems or any of that bullshit you hear now days

in fact that combination is very very good  

[Schmoe Buster]

x2

tren + deca was my very first cycle .. no ai/ae ... no anti-prolactin..

yes my FIRST cycle with no testosterona and i was FINE no libido problems or any of that bullshit you hear now days

in fact that combination is very very good  

I second that, Tren + Deca/NPP is a great combo

Of course for you ''sensitive'' types you might want to the BSN mass stack

[undead]

thanks guys. cant wait for it to kick in lol.

[aesthetics]

yea, when i saw this cycle i knew people were going to warn about tren + deca together. i think, most people who handle tren fine, will be fine adding deca to it. i get increased sides when i do it however. 

[tbombz]

my dream cycle owuld contain both tren ace and npp..

id take a 100ml vial.. dump 6  tren, 2  npp, 2 suspension into it.... draw out 3 cc per day..  mmm...    

[undead]

well its day three. feeling pretty good. havent experience the dreaded tren cough yet so thats good.


quick question to all the guys that have used it before, when do the night sweats start? does everyone get it? i woke up a few times last night so i think the insomnia might be kicking in but im not sure.

[StackedDec]

I was getting sweats and having trouble sleeping day 2.  Have taken 10 shots with no cough, but all glute shots so it might be more of an issue when I switch to delts.

[undead]

well its day 5 and im up almost 10lbs. its mostly carbs and water because i am coming off of a keto diet but i still look lean and much fuller. just did a delt injection and its hurting like a bitch. the only downside is an increase in hair loss which sucks but ill keep going with the cycle for now.

[Treninghard]

what brand of gear r u using?