does this guy have potential to be pro body builder?

[purenaturalstrength]

or this guy, these are the two most moscular weightlifters currently i blieve (first guy "ivan stoitsov", second "dmitri klokov")





(left) (right is "evgeny chigishev")

[cephissus]

 

[purenaturalstrength]

if they use old batch kigtropin 30 iu per day 12 months?

[cephissus]

if they use old batch kigtropin 30 iu per day 12 months?

 

only one way to find out!

[diamondcut]

i would say no on both,

first guy is oly lifter, these guys are very strength genetics rather than size genetics, and all the mass is in his legs, his upper body is pretty bad

second guy looks way too blocky, if he put on conditioned mass his waist would blow up and he would look like a dusty hanshaw


the most important determinant in pro bber material is the guys who have shape

[purenaturalstrength]

i would say no on both,

first guy is oly lifter, these guys are very strength genetics rather than size genetics, and all the mass is in his legs, his upper body is pretty bad

second guy looks way too blocky, if he put on conditioned mass his waist would blow up and he would look like a dusty hanshaw


the most important determinant in pro bber material is the guys who have shape

so in a sense twinks have more potential than blocky guys

[Meso_z]

Yes, both of them.

[cephissus]

i would say no on both,

first guy is oly lifter, these guys are very strength genetics rather than size genetics, and all the mass is in his legs, his upper body is pretty bad

damn, i wonder why 

have you ever seen how an olympic lifter trains...

second guy looks way too blocky, if he put on conditioned mass his waist would blow up and he would look like a dusty hanshaw


the most important determinant in pro bber material is the guys who have shape

i would agree with this assessment, but then again...

[purenaturalstrength]

have you ever seen how an olympic lifter trains...

squat snatch

squat clean

front squat

back squat

squat sqaut squat squa


repeat

[diamondcut]

damn, i wonder why 

have you ever seen how an olympic lifter trains...

yeah....

training is a moot point if you don't have the genetic shape for it
no amount of bicep curls will give you high peak biceps if you dont have it

ie i didn't train arms for the longest time. just focused on back because my arms are actually pretty decent. while training heavy on back my biceps grew tremendously and my db curls jumped from 30lbs to 65 lbs, yet my shitty arm genetics buddy over there is training the hell out of his arms and back yet his arms are still shit

much like my calves are still shit, and fat people have huge calves

[purenaturalstrength]

yeah....

training is a moot point if you don't have the genetic shape for it
no amount of bicep curls will give you high peak biceps if you dont have it

ie i didn't train arms for the longest time. just focused on back because my arms are actually pretty decent. while training heavy on back my biceps grew tremendously and my db curls jumped from 30lbs to 65 lbs, yet my shitty arm genetics buddy over there is training the hell out of his arms and back yet his arms are still shit

much like my calves are still shit, and fat people have huge calves

calves are much more genetical than anything else

this is why even at the olympia stage you will see some shit calves


but always big muscles on the rest of the body

[notsureifsrs]

lol i can't even imagine them doing the typical bodybuilders routine let alone using cables...

sure they do if they will take the right drugs pump up some oil wear a thong and get on stage, srsly i mean who doesn't ?

[purenaturalstrength]

lol i can't even imagine them doing the typical bodybuilders routine let alone using cables...

sure they do if they will take the right drugs pump up some oil wear a thong and get on stage, srsly i mean who doesn't ?

a lot of guys waste away tons of drugs and never get their pro card

at least that's what i read in trevor smith article, but pretty sure that guy was just putting the world down and boasting

[Parker]

First two have shitty arm genetics---they must be related to Down Hill...
Last guy maybe...
2nd guy's arms are too small for his torso.

[aesthetics]

if they use old batch kigtropin 30 iu per day 12 months?

definitely, and also a lot of aas and slin.

he is very wide, with a small waist, so provided he doesn't have horrible genetics in his biceps or tris or pecs, he can make it to the pros "easily". lot of people with shitty genetics make it to the pros just because they use tons and tons of gh, ei that one japanese guy who i can't spell his name that has horrible structure and insertions

[jon cole]

i would say no on both,

first guy is oly lifter, these guys are very strength genetics rather than size genetics, and all the mass is in his legs, his upper body is pretty bad

second guy looks way too blocky, if he put on conditioned mass his waist would blow up and he would look like a dusty hanshaw


the most important determinant in pro bber material is the guys who have shape

watch a light heavy weightlifting competition.......massiv e back, huge legs, legs and back are more massive than bber.
they got the old school look that generation nothingness is too lazy to obtain.
 
doing squat and pull give you the herculean look, a better look than dumbell and cable row.



they only need chest and biceps and BOOOOM...

[local hero]

watch a light heavy weightlifting competition.......massive back, huge legs, legs and back are more massive than bber.
they got the old school look that generation nothingness is too lazy to obtain.
 
doing squat and pull give you the herculean look, a better look than dumbell and cable row.



they only need chest and biceps and BOOOOM...

dont be silly,,,,,,,,,, they are incredibly muscled, but they havent got the same kind of size as a pro bodybuilder, get a grip!

[Cutlet767]

These are your average abusers. They are already on pro stacks, with awful response and genetics. Just look at the 1st dude's chest and triceps. Fucking piss-poor muscular development for someone of his size.

[Meso_z]

To everyone that says those lifters have "shitty" genetics...well.. 

Those guys dont to direct arm work to develop their arms, yet their arms are somewhat huge to the common man and ripped.

Also these are Olympic lifters, with some of them being Olympic champions...do you believe they are the the bottom of the "genetic pool"? 

[dj181]

The first guy is all legs

The second guy is all torso

The thrid guy has a nice chick, but I'd need to see her ass to be able to make a better ASSesment of her

[wes]

Anybody can be a pro bodybuilder.......EASILY!!

[wes]

To everyone that says those lifters have "shitty" genetics...well.. 

Those guys dont to direct arm work to develop their arms, yet their arms are somewhat huge to the common man and ripped.

Also these are Olympic lifters, with some of them being Olympic champions...do you believe they are the the bottom of the "genetic pool"? 

Good post........most Oly lifters don`t do much work for pecs or arms if any at all.

[apply85]

lol at them not working out their arms

[wes]

lol at them not working out their arms

They don`t do 15-20 sets of curls,or pressdowns like a bodybuilder would.

Possibly a few sets of curls and some close grip benches,but nothing extensive in MOST cases.

They are concerned with getting their lifts up rather than looking great in a pair of posing trunks.

Their arms get worked hard indirectly anyway,but most don`t worry about arm size,they worry about the total of the two lifts which make up their sport.

Just my opinion,as I have known and seen many an Olympic lifter train in my day.

[apply85]

you see the guy doing double bi shots? u think they dont care about looking good?