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Re: I am asking again.....about OB in November
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2012, 02:41:18 PM »
  I have a feeling that the economy is gonna improve markedly in the coming months. Anyone remember how gas prices went down like 30-40 cents a gallon right before the '06 midterm elections, when it was (correctly) predicted that the Democrats would make a big comeback because Bush was such a moron? Strange coincidences.

If SHTF w Iran - all bets are off for any predictions. 

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Re: I am asking again.....about OB in November
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2012, 02:42:46 PM »
Yes...and I have money riding on this.  The president's record on National Security is solid......Gaddhafi, Kim Jong Il, and OBL all dead on his watch.  Frequent reports of the economy and housing rebounding.  Deportations of illegal aliens are actually UP. 2 of the Big 3 US automakers saved and now making healthy profits. I don't see Ohio, Florida, Virginia or any other swing state going to Romney.  Florida and Ohio especially were decimated in this moribund economy and voters are not going to be duped by Romney's notion that a guy like the late Steve Jobs actually creates jobs here in the US via reduced regulations and less taxes.

DISCLAIMER:  I know some of you can toss up charts and stats with the best of them to refute any of these claims......because, that is all they are...CLAIMS.  However, perception is everything as the voters are generally stupid and apathetic.

Why Romney can't/won't win:

- He's a Mormon.  This is a religion on the outside looking in.  It does not have the clout, money, or influence that Catholocism has.

- Follow the Jewish money.  The more friendly a candidate is towards Israel, the more funding that candidate receives.  Oftentimes, around 60% of a candidate's campaign contributions are derived from Jewish sources.  Obama has a mostly positive, but spotty, track record in terms of Israeli-US relations.  Romney speaks a good game, but he is largely untested.

- Obama is a great campaigner with a highly organized and efficient team.  Lots of money at their disposal to pick Romney apart.

- People voting for Romney are not voting for him because of him....they are voting for him solely due to the fact they don't like Obama.  It may have worked for Obama back in '08, but ole' Obummer is not near as reviled as Bush was at the end of his 2nd term.

- Big banks, corporations, and the rich back up Democrats moreso than they do Republicans......Democra ts, in large parts to a heavily biased media, have skillfully portrayed this as being the other way around.  Well played, Dems.

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Re: I am asking again.....about OB in November
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2012, 02:52:07 PM »
Thanks, JB, this is why i see it as a very good chance we get 4 more years, while others immediately dismiss the notion.


And you can add, the wars winding down.

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Re: I am asking again.....about OB in November
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2012, 06:18:17 AM »
If SHTF w Iran - all bets are off for any predictions. 

After all the bullshit you spewed for the last three years on how easy it would be for anyone to beat Obama... you are now hanging your hat on Iran being responsible?

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Re: I am asking again.....about OB in November
« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2012, 06:24:18 AM »
I don't think the economy is getting worse... I see a lot of people hiring and I know of many people expanding now.

I see a lot of improvement in the economy to be honest.

Come visit Metro Detroit. Business has been slowing down the past three months.

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Re: I am asking again.....about OB in November
« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2012, 06:26:46 AM »
Come visit Metro Detroit. Business has been slowing down the past three months.

I keep asking for any real data proving the economy is getting "better" and no one can point to anything. 

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Re: I am asking again.....about OB in November
« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2012, 10:18:21 AM »
Come visit Metro Detroit. Business has been slowing down the past three months.

I would have to see that.

I keep asking for any real data proving the economy is getting "better" and no one can point to anything. 

You have a lot of companies just now reaching out for their IPOs (Facebook and Zynga).

A big part of why they didn't IPO before now was the economy.

Those are real signs of the economy turning around. When you ask about "data", what do you want?

There's a lot of "data" out there.

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Re: I am asking again.....about OB in November
« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2012, 11:19:01 AM »
I don't have any data, but I would think Lou Dobbs does to say the economy IS getting better......  Unless of course he's a closet kneepadder.

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Re: I am asking again.....about OB in November
« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2012, 11:25:19 AM »
I don't have any data, but I would think Lou Dobbs does to say the economy IS getting better......  Unless of course he's a closet kneepadder.

He makes 8 million dollars a year and lives in the NYC/Boston/DC corridor. 

Ask the average main street business person what he thinks and you will get the truth.     

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Re: I am asking again.....about OB in November
« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2012, 12:50:01 PM »
He makes 8 million dollars a year and lives in the NYC/Boston/DC corridor. 

Ask the average main street business person what he thinks and you will get the truth.     

The average main street business person is selling antiques and is in hock up to their asses because the only retail they can do is BS because of larger companies and lower prices. So they likely squawk at anything.  However i did have a nice conversation with a photagrapher on main street who does murder mytery theater on the side and she seemed tickled.  Further more, they arent likely knowledgable about  economics, however LOu Dobbs if Fox news IS.  (Lou is not a member of the sky is falling association)

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Re: I am asking again.....about OB in November
« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2012, 12:51:43 PM »
The average main street business person is selling antiques and is in hock up to their asses because the only retail they can do is BS because of larger companies and lower prices. So they likely squawk at anything.  However i did have a nice conversation with a photagrapher on main street who does murder mytery theater on the side and she seemed tickled.  Further more, they arent likely knowledgable about  economics, however LOu Dobbs if Fox news IS.  (Lou is not a member of the sky is falling association)


If things were getting better why is bernake keeping rates at zero for 2-3 more years?     hhhhmmmmmmm??????

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Re: I am asking again.....about OB in November
« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2012, 01:49:33 PM »
I am not a Eco expert, and NEITHER are you.  Send Lou an email.

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Re: I am asking again.....about OB in November
« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2012, 02:11:49 PM »
Lou Dobbs is as economically ignorant as they get.