MegaUpload vs YouTube

[Big N]

Doesn't YouTube allow users to upload/download, share music/videos etc with each other and the viewers? Then what makes MegaUpload so different to have the owners prosecuted with copyright infringement looking an upward of 10-20yrs in jail?

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[bradistani]

youtube pay royalties 

[Nails]

im getting sick and tired of all the fucking advertisements on youtube before the video plays.

[tu_holmes]

Youtube (Google) pays taxes to the US government.

[bradistani]

i'm glad the music industry is getting fucking raped. long may it continue 

[aesthetics]

youtube is owned by google and google owns a lot of congress

[grab an umbrella]

Doesn't YouTube allow users to upload/download, share music/videos etc with each other and the viewers? Then what makes MegaUpload so different to have the owners prosecuted with copyright infringement looking an upward of 10-20yrs in jail?

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Iirc it had something to do with the way the videos were hosted. Megaupload didn't comply properly with copyright requests.

[JasonH]

Noticed the other day that there's no sharing option on Filesonic now either.  

[BayGBM]

This is a wasted effort because the genie is out of the bottle.  As long as one person can email a file to another person photo, music, and video sharing will continue.  The networks will just be smaller.  Instead of sharing files with 1,000,000 or 10,000 people, users will create smaller networks of 100, 10 or even 3.  At this very moment there are 235 users on getbig and 1299 guests.  How many music and digital movie files do we have among us?  There's a file sharing network right there.

[Borracho]

This is a wasted effort because the genie is out of the bottle.  As long as one person can email a file to another person photo, music, and video sharing will continue.  The networks will just be smaller.  Instead of sharing files with 1,000,000 or 10,000 people, users will create smaller networks of 100, 10 or even 3.  At this very moment there are 235 users on getbig and 1299 guests.  How many music and digital movie files do we have among us?  There's a file sharing network right there.

Torrents are an example of this. I have a file and share it with as many people who want it, once they have downloaded it from me they can now upload it to as many users who want it.

[Earl1972]

if somebody files a copyright claim, youtube takes down the video

megaupload more often than not ignored copyright claims

plus youtube not charging a membership probably helps

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[YngiweRhoads]

Copyright shmopyright, Megaupload didn't give money to the right people.

The end.

[Earl1972]

Copyright shmopyright, Megaupload didn't give money to the right people.

The end.

yeah they didn't give money to the people that produced the dvd or music somebody was downloading

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[cephissus]

This is a wasted effort because the genie is out of the bottle.  As long as one person can email a file to another person photo, music, and video sharing will continue.  The networks will just be smaller.  Instead of sharing files with 1,000,000 or 10,000 people, users will create smaller networks of 100, 10 or even 3.  At this very moment there are 235 users on getbig and 1299 guests.  How many music and digital movie files do we have among us?  There's a file sharing network right there.

Not really.  As it gets harder and harder to share files illegally, and as the legal options become cheaper and more readily available, pretty soon it will be worth your time to purchase things again.

For me, it already is, and I'm not rich.

[YngiweRhoads]

yeah they didn't give money to the people that produced the dvd or music somebody was downloading

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Yes, but that's only a minor part of it unfortunately.

Megaupload didn't support anyone but themselves, hence they weren't 'Too big to fail', if ya know what I mean.

 

[BayGBM]

Not really.  As it gets harder and harder to share files illegally, and as the legal options become cheaper and more readily available, pretty soon it will be worth your time to purchase things again.

For me, it already is, and I'm not rich.

Realty check: nothing is cheaper than free.  And nothing is easier than sending a file directly to your friend.  You may not want to do this but think of the kids in middle and junior high schools or college.  A simple mouse click is all it takes.  Bigger files are harder to swap, but the kids who want to do so will overcome that hurdle too.  The huge file swapping services like Napster, Limewire, and Megaupload can be shut down but they cannot shut down the link between two people who decide to share files with one another whether they are living in the same dorm, the same city, or the same country.

[cephissus]

Realty check: nothing is cheaper than free.  And nothing is easier than sending a file directly to your friend.  You may not want to do this but think of the kids in middle and junior high schools or college.  A simple mouse click is all it takes.  Bigger files are harder to swap, but the kids who want to do so will overcome that hurdle too.  The huge file swapping services like Napster, Limewire, and Megaupload can be shut down but they cannot shut down the link between two people who decide to share files with one another whether they are living in the same dorm, the same city, or the same country.

I use torrents to get a movie or a game if i can't find it on itunes / amazon / netflix or steam, direct2drive, etc., in the case of games.

i think it's a pain in the ass by comparison.  and it's probably just going to get harder and harder as time goes by.

[BayGBM]

I use torrents to get a movie or a game if i can't find it on itunes / amazon / netflix or steam, direct2drive, etc., in the case of games.

i think it's a pain in the ass by comparison.  and it's probably just going to get harder and harder as time goes by.

You keep using words like "harder" and "cheaper" which suggests you are missing my point so I'll say it again: nothing is cheaper than free and for someone who wants to swap files clicking your mouse is not "hard."  Even at .99 cents per song there are plenty of people (especially kids) who do not want to pay that.  Maybe you are too old to remember this but figuring out ways to thwart the authorities by file sharing is part of the fun of being a kid... no matter how "hard" it is. 

This may change in the years ahead, but as long as CDs and DVDs are sold and in circulation they can be ripped and file sharing will continue.  Every CD and DVD that exists today will be ripped and shared.  If music publishers and studios want to stop filing sharing for future content they will have to stop producing CDs and DVDs and only sell the content via DRM downloads and streaming.  And even that is something kids will eventually figure out out to copy and share.

[theheman]

...nothing is cheaper than free and for someone who wants to swap files clicking your mouse is not "hard."  Even at .99 cents per song there are plenty of people (especially kids) who do not want to pay that.  
...And even that is something kids will eventually figure out out to copy and share.

These kids aren't part of the generation nothingness...they're the generation freeloaders.

[Big N]

This is a wasted effort because the genie is out of the bottle.  As long as one person can email a file to another person photo, music, and video sharing will continue.  The networks will just be smaller.  Instead of sharing files with 1,000,000 or 10,000 people, users will create smaller networks of 100, 10 or even 3.  At this very moment there are 235 users on getbig and 1299 guests.  How many music and digital movie files do we have among us?  There's a file sharing network right there.

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[Marlo Stanfield]

Doesn't YouTube allow users to upload/download, share music/videos etc with each other and the viewers? Then what makes MegaUpload so different to have the owners prosecuted with copyright infringement looking an upward of 10-20yrs in jail?

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youtube only allows videos to be uploaded, and normally with the clips on youtube, there arent much copyright infringements, sure you have the occasional PPV event on youtube the next day, but they get taken down immediatelly

MegaUpload on the other hand allows you to share anything...Books, music, software etc.. and when someone thinks about COPYRIGHT, the first thoughts are Software, WHOLE MOVIES ( which isnt on youtube),Music, and books.

and also, youtube doesnt allow DIRECT download... sure you can extract a MP3 file from a video clip, but thats not what youtbe allows the users to do, the users go out of their way to do it

[MikMaq]

You keep using words like "harder" and "cheaper" which suggests you are missing my point so I'll say it again: nothing is cheaper than free and for someone who wants to swap files clicking your mouse is not "hard."  Even at .99 cents per song there are plenty of people (especially kids) who do not want to pay that.  Maybe you are too old to remember this but figuring out ways to thwart the authorities by file sharing is part of the fun of being a kid... no matter how "hard" it is. 

This may change in the years ahead, but as long as CDs and DVDs are sold and in circulation they can be ripped and file sharing will continue.  Every CD and DVD that exists today will be ripped and shared.  If music publishers and studios want to stop filing sharing for future content they will have to stop producing CDs and DVDs and only sell the content via DRM downloads and streaming.  And even that is something kids will eventually figure out out to copy and share.

Your on the money with this one.

Besides the fact that virtually every school and coffee shop on the fucking planet got wifi network sharing, you're basically making it profitable for people to set up wireless networks instead of having free internet access(far cheaper when you think about it).

I use the internet primarily for music/entertainment, if I can't get it for free, when my friends expose me to new stuff I'll simply copy wirelessly for free.