is your job, who you "are?"

[Obvious Gimmick]

the economy is a bitch and people are getting laid off. Aside from the obvious financial diffculties this causes,  would being laid off effect who you are as a person?

[BigCyp]

No but your mom is.

[Tito24]

your mom is my drug of choise

[Voland]

nah i've always been broke but your mom doesn't mind.

[che]

the economy is a bitch

So is your mom but I still love her .

[Tapeworm]

Depends how much dealing with a lot fewer jackasses everyday changes me.  I'm guessing for the better.



And your mother is a dimestore whore.

[BayGBM]

I’m trying to help a friend get a job right now.  He’s been out of work for a while and having money troubles, but helping him is proving harder than I thought it would be.  He doesn’t take advice very well, even going so far as to argue with me about whether or not he should apply for jobs that I have directed him to.  “That’s not for me” is a common sentiment.  As if staying home broke is for him.

He doesn’t seem to understand that writing cover letters and interviewing is a skill that he needs to practice and that being offered a job doesn’t mean he has to accept it.  Similarly, being interviewed and making a good impression is how you get your name in circulation.  Sigh! What I won't do for a bodybuilder!  

[Tapeworm]

I’m trying to help a friend get a job right now.  He’s been out of work for a while and having money troubles, but helping him is proving harder than I thought it would be.  He doesn’t take advice very well, even going so far as to argue with me about whether or not he should apply for jobs that I have directed him to.  “That’s not for me” is a common sentiment.  As if staying home broke is for him.

He doesn’t seem to understand that writing cover letters and interviewing is a skill that he needs to practice and that being offered a job doesn’t mean he has to accept it.  Similarly, being interviewed and making a good impression is how you get your name in circulation.  Sigh! What I would do for a bodybuilder! 

You're normally a real hardass about people like that.  This 'friend' must be great looking. 

Know how lame middle aged guys look with some looked-after young woman in tow?  Don't turn into the queer version.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I'm a sales executive in the financial district, and no it really isn't who I am

[MORTALCOIL]

I’m trying to help a friend get a job right now.  He’s been out of work for a while and having money troubles, but helping him is proving harder than I thought it would be.  He doesn’t take advice very well, even going so far as to argue with me about whether or not he should apply for jobs that I have directed him to.  “That’s not for me” is a common sentiment.  As if staying home broke is for him.

He doesn’t seem to understand that writing cover letters and interviewing is a skill that he needs to practice and that being offered a job doesn’t mean he has to accept it.  Similarly, being interviewed and making a good impression is how you get your name in circulation.  Sigh! What I won't do for a bodybuilder!  

So Goodrum is a friend of yours?

[BayGBM]

You're normally a real hardass about people like that.  This 'friend' must be great looking. 

Know how lame middle aged guys look with some looked-after young woman in tow?  Don't turn into the queer version.

What makes you think I'm a hard ass about people like that?  I'm a pussycat!

And if you mean someone like Hugh Hefner, I won't turn into the queer version of that; the other day he asked me for money and I flatly told him "no."

[Thespritz0]

the economy is a bitch and people are getting laid off. Aside from the obvious financial diffculties this causes,  would being laid off effect who you are as a person?

^^
I'm a Corrections Officer, so with another prison being built in my area no worries...

Besides, what other occupation should I have got being in the military so damn long

[SOMEPARTS]

I’m trying to help a friend get a job right now.  He’s been out of work for a while and having money troubles, but helping him is proving harder than I thought it would be.  He doesn’t take advice very well, even going so far as to argue with me about whether or not he should apply for jobs that I have directed him to.  “That’s not for me” is a common sentiment.  As if staying home broke is for him.

He doesn’t seem to understand that writing cover letters and interviewing is a skill that he needs to practice and that being offered a job doesn’t mean he has to accept it.  Similarly, being interviewed and making a good impression is how you get your name in circulation.  Sigh! What I won't do for a bodybuilder!  

There's nothing worse than giving a piece of shit good advice. Sorry, but that's what it is.

He hates your success and will actually do the OPPOSITE of what you advise. I have been there many times. It's easier to loan them some cash so they avoid you while they are in this mode.

[Tapeworm]

the other day he asked me for money and I flatly told him "no."

Beat him until he ain't pretty no more.  Then see if you're still feeling so feline.

People who trade on their looks are in for a rude awakening.  Luckily, I never had to adjust to such a shock.

[sync pulse]

the economy is a bitch and people are getting laid off. Aside from the obvious financial diffculties this causes,  would being laid off effect who you are as a person?

yes...

[BayGBM]

^^
I'm a Corrections Officer, so with another prison being built in my area no worries...

Besides, what other occupation should I have got being in the military so damn long

• Police officer
• Security consultant
• Private investigator
• Bodyguard
• US Secret Service (the majority are former military)
• Security officer/investigator with a law firm (tons of well paid work there)
• Security officer with a private corporation/organization (again tons of work here; think GE, Apple, Google, Ford, International Paper, etc.).  They hire to protect property and people (company executives).^*
• The private security firm business is booming both in the US and abroad.  You could work for such an organization or found your own.  Ever heard of Blackwater?  It was founded in 1997 by Erik Prince and it has made the former Navy SEAL a ton of money.

It is not really about where you could go or what you could do.  It has to do with how imaginative, resourceful, and entrepreneurial you are. Though you sort of answered that with your question above.  


^*True story: Marc Benioff (the billionaire CEO of Salesforce.com) lives near me on a street the locals call "Billionaire's Row."  Obviously, his house is huge and he routinely travels with security.  He also has a security team for his house… but he and his wife didn’t want the security guys roaming around their house and always in sight.  So they bought the huge house next door, and put all their security people over there… where they can be summoned with a shout or the push of a button.  Is their house likely to be burglarized?  No.  All things considered, I would say it is an easy gig, but you can bet their security folk are very well paid.

[Voland]

Bay, I have no studies or skills, my physique is too manly for g4p and I like to work little to none.
What am i suited for? I want big bucks.

[BayGBM]

Bay, I have no studies or skills, my physique is too manly for g4p and I like to work little to none.
What am i suited for? I want big bucks.

Allow me to introduce you Tom. http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=281208.0

Seriously, I think that Benioff security gig is a sweet deal.  They have security 24/7 so the guards basically live in the adjacent house (which is nicer than any house you are I will ever live in) and they have alternating work shifts.

[Thespritz0]

• Police officer
• Security consultant
• Private investigator
• Bodyguard
• US Secret Service (the majority are former military)
• Security officer/investigator with a law firm (tons of well paid work there)
• Security officer with a private corporation/organization (again tons of work here; think GE, Apple, Google, Ford, International Paper, etc.).  They hire to protect property and people (company executives).^*
• The private security firm business is booming both in the US and abroad.  You could work for such an organization or found your own.  Ever heard of Blackwater?  It was founded in 1997 by Erik Prince and it has made the former Navy SEAL a ton of money.

It is not really about where you could go or what you could do.  It has to do with how imaginative, resourceful, and entrepreneurial you are. Though you sort of answered that with your question above.  


^*True story: Marc Benioff (the billionaire CEO of Salesforce.com) lives near me on a street the locals call "Billionaire's Row."  Obviously, his house is huge and he routinely travels with security.  He also has a security team for his house… but he and his wife didn’t want the security guys roaming around their house and always in sight.  So they bought the huge house next door, and put all their security people over there… where they can be summoned with a shout or the push of a button.  Is their house likely to be burglarized?  No.  All things considered, I would say it is an easy gig, but you can bet their security folk are very well paid.

^^
In retrospect, I guess I really wanted to stay safe where I am now, plus I already payed off my condo...

[Voland]

Allow me to introduce you Tom. http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=281208.0

Seriously, I think that Benioff security gig is a sweet deal.  They have security 24/7 so the guards basically live in the adjacent house (which is nicer than any house you are I will ever live in) and they have alternating work shifts.

Tom sounds like me. I'm not 30 yet but time creeps up.
Unlike him i have no limits. I don't care if the job is legal, illegal or alegal. I'm a mercenary and money is all i'm after. Efficient money that is the most money for the least time. I believe unless you come from a wealthy family dirty fighting your way up is the only way.
I'm a warriors, sign me in for an epic battle. 

[B_B_C]

 He doesn’t take advice very well,

"The only thing to do with good advice is pass it on"
"It's an odd thing, but anyone who disappears is said to be seen in San Francisco"
Oscar Wilde

[dr.chimps]

Of course. Being employed, and being of value, has a lot to do with self-worth and character.

[Voland]

Of course. Being employed, and being of value, has a lot to do with self-worth and character.

Self-employed is the key. Other won't ever pay you as much as you are worth. They will keep it for themselves. And assuming someone is paying you 401k/ year it means you are producing a shitload more for him. Why allow it? For for yourself. Keep it all.
You'll never be happy unless you're not told what to do. Its in human natural to lead not to follow.

[dr.chimps]

Self-employed is the key. Other won't ever pay you as much as you are worth. They will keep it for themselves. And assuming someone is paying you 401k/ year it means you are producing a shitload more for him. Why allow it? For for yourself. Keep it all.
You'll never be happy unless you're not told what to do. Its in human natural to lead not to follow.

I am self-employed. But thanks for the lecture.

[Voland]

I am self-employed. But thanks for the lecture.

Your mom told me to inspire you. You welcome.